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    Post  Backman Tue May 25, 2021 6:36 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    kvs wrote:It should be noted that the red and white flag is the banner of the Nazi nationalists that formed during WWII.   It is not some ancestral
    Belorussian flag.   And Belarus never existed as a country until 1990.   It was formed as a constituent of the USSR by the Bolsheviks.
    It was not some Poland incorporated into the Russian Empire.

     

    Do you have a picture showing the style of the flag? to compare to support this claim?.


    It was used for the first time by the short-lived anti-Bolshevik Belarusian National Republic (BNR) between March 1918 and February 1919.

    However, the white-red flag emerged again during World War II, as a symbol of the Nazi administration in Belarus, also appearing on arm patches of Belarusian Nazi collaborationists who volunteered in the German Army and the SS.

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    Post  franco Tue May 25, 2021 6:07 pm

    Assassination of the flag! The International Ice Hockey Federation and its Swiss President Rene Fasel consider the change of the flags of Russia and Belarus at the Ice Hockey World Championship in Riga unacceptable

    The International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) reacted quickly and decisively to the chaos. "We sent a letter to the mayor of Riga. This is unacceptable for us. We will not change flags in the arena. And we will ask to remove the flags of the World Cup and IIHF from the positions where flags were changed in Riga," TASS quoted IIHF President Rene Fasel as saying.

    The reaction of the Riga mayor Stakis did not have to wait long. Incorrectly, contemptuously referring to the letter of the President and a member of the International Olympic Committee, the mayor said: "We will remove the IIHF flags." This is a spit on all international sport.

    It was thought that the country's President Eglis Levits, who was called upon to possess both experience and political maturity by duty, would correct the mayor who had lost his sense of reality. However, his statement aired on a local TV channel was startling. He fully supported the presumptuous Stakis, openly referring to political reasons. Unheard of and unworthy of the head of state.

    Excuse me, but what is going on in the capital of Latvia? Is it the world championship in one of the most prestigious Olympic sports or the championship of Riga for the prizes of its mayor? And what is the reaction of the International Olympic Committee, one of whose most respected members, Rene Fasel, is forced to fend off attacks by distraught local officials? And how to conduct competitions in general in a country where all international laws have been trampled?

    It all started with the fact that the mayor of the city of Stakis made a decision about what flags should be in the countries whose hockey teams are visiting in not too, as it turned out, the hospitable capital of Latvia. And he applied his meager, very specific knowledge in practice. By his imperial order, in the presence of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Latvia, the flag of sovereign Belarus - a full-fledged participant in the world championship - was replaced by a panel of flowers that are dear to the heart of the mayor - the flag of the Belarusian opposition. It happened in the center of the capital, which is ruled by Stakis. It is there that the flags of the states that have come to the World Cup are displayed.
    What's going on in Latvia? Is it the world championship in the most prestigious Olympic sport or the championship of Riga for the prizes of its mayor?

    To admit, and have never heard of this. Not a single country in the world, even one that does not have diplomatic relations with another state, whose national team competes on its territory in an international tournament, has ever dared to commit such obvious rudeness. Even in 1936, at the Berlin Olympics, they refrained from such a thing. But Stakis for some reason is sure that he has the right to everything, even to change the flag. On Twitter, the mayor brazenly explained his decision: "Among the flags of the World Ice Hockey Championship, we support the flag of free Belarus."

    But what if you imagine a different picture. Let's say that the Latvian national team respected in the hockey world, which has come to the world championship, sees in the center of another capital or city, maybe many times larger than Riga, not its own flag, but another banner. And to the question "Why?", He gets the answer straight from Stakis: "Yes, we like this flag more. We got used to it somehow."

    But in Riga they did not calm down, they went on in wicked ignorance. All in the same city center, our flag was also removed: it was replaced with the flag of the Russian Olympic Committee. As the clumsily explained, this was done at the request of the World Anti-Doping Agency. But the flag was not in the sports arena. What does WADA have to do with this? It has never happened that the flags of sovereign states have been replaced so impudently, shamelessly, without preliminary warnings, at the instigation of something.

    And how much there was a cry when Latvia demanded to deprive Minsk of the joint right to the World Championship. How they frightened the Stackis and others with riots, the lack of conditions for the safe conduct of the championship, promising a regime of complete favor. Under pressure from politicians, sponsors refused to help the Minsk organizers. The International Ice Hockey Federation made concessions. What did it lead to? Yes to the most scandalous world championship, not only in the history of hockey, but all of the ever held world championships. The tournament in Latvia does not have and will not have equal to itself in what is being created here. Politics not only intervened in sport, but crushed it on display, dissolved it in demonstrative Riga hostility.
    The insult forced the Belarusian authorities to expel all employees of the Latvian embassy from the country. Riga has taken mirror measures. What happened on the initiative of the party "Russian Union of Latvia" will be considered at a meeting of the city duma. But it is clear in advance what answer honest oppositionists will receive in this delirium tremens.

    It's unpleasant when your native symbol is changed to something else. Knocks out of the saddle. Tunes in a sad mood. Causes a feeling of disgust. Spit on the stacks and leave. But this is exactly what you cannot do. That's what it is designed for ...
    ... and so - after.

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    Post  franco Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:22 pm

    Zeman (to be) removed from office of President of the Czech Republic

    The pro-American Russophobes of the Czech Republic have actively taken up the country's president, Milos Zeman. They reproach him for the fact that at the end of April, addressing the people , he "dared" to doubt the existence of evidence of Russia's involvement in the explosions at the ammunition depots in the village of Vrbetice in 2014. Now critics are preparing to remove the head of state from office.

    On June 2, 2021, the head of the Czech Senate (upper house of parliament) committee on security, Pavel Fischer, announced that Zeman could no longer serve as president of the country. The committee concluded that the head of state clearly demonstrated his disorientation by misinterpreting the norms of the constitution and interpreting reality as he pleases, often confusing the effect with the cause.

    He (Zeman - ed.) Does not act in accordance with his promise, he violates the Charter of Fundamental Rights and Freedoms in relation to the media - Fischer said.

    In his words, the Committee relied solely on the president's public statements, among which there were words about the existence of several versions of those events in the investigation, and not just "the fault of the Russian Federation." The Prime Minister of the Czech Republic and the country's special services unanimously asserted that the investigation was investigating only one version - "Moscow's involvement", and Zeman took it and told everything.

    According to Fischer, by his actions Zeman jeopardized the security of the Czech Republic. Therefore, a person who cannot distinguish classified information from public information has no right to be in such a high government post.

    The Senate is to consider removing Zeman next week. In 2020, the Senate has already tried to remove Zeman. Then he was accused of inaction in the appointment or dismissal of members of the government, as well as in violation of the official foreign policy of the Czech Republic. However, the plan did not work out, since the removal must still be supported by the Chamber of Deputies (lower house of parliament).
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:18 am

    Regime change in Europe...
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    Post  PhSt Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:50 am

    Whats happening in the Czech Republic should be a go signal for both Russia and China to pursue their own regime change operations in countries sympathetic to Uncle Swine and install their own friendly regimes. Make America bleed in every possible opportunity to hasten up its collapse sniper

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    Post  PhSt Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:31 am

    Nothing to do with Central-Eastern NATzO Sucking SLUTS like SeigSoloSLUT but it seems AmeriSLUTS are deeply "Concerned" whenever countries like China and Russia make good relations with their neighbors, Now Uncle Slime is Demanding the Cambodian leadership to take a "Balanced Policy" Laughing


    US concerned by China presence in Cambodia, urges 'balanced' policy

    PHNOM PENH (Reuters) -The most senior U.S. official to visit Cambodia in years expressed concern on Tuesday about China's military presence there and sought clarification on the demolition of U.S.-funded buildings, the State Department said.

    Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman urged Cambodia’s leadership to "maintain an independent and balanced foreign policy, in the best interests of the Cambodian people".

    She met Prime Minister Hun Sen, who has ruled for over 35 years and has become increasingly close to China while Washington has condemned human rights abuses and his demolition of the political opposition.

    The Pentagon said last year it was worried about reports that the Cambodian Navy tactical headquarters at Ream Naval Base had been demolished and had asked Cambodia for an explanation.

    The building, roughly 30 metres (100 feet) long, had housed several small patrol boats.

    In October, Cambodia said it had razed the building to allow for further expansion and would relocate the demolished facility, denying reports of Chinese involvement.

    A U.S. State Department spokesman said there was "substantial" publicly available evidence that China was working on a major renovation project at Ream and said "credible reports" suggested this would include an area under its exclusive control.

    "Deputy Secretary Sherman expressed serious concerns about the PRC's (China's) military presence and construction of facilities at Ream Naval Base," the State Department said in a statement.

    "She sought clarification on the demolition of two U.S.-funded buildings at Ream without notification or explanation and observed that a PRC military base in Cambodia would undermine its sovereignty, threaten regional security, and negatively impact U.S.-Cambodia relations."China has become an increasingly important economic and political ally for Cambodia.


    Meanwhile Uncle SLUT has commanded its minions in the Czech republic to depose its President because of his balanced approach in relation to Russia Rolling Eyes

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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:55 am

    China is doing the right and proper thing. Since Uncle Swine-shit meddles in every country on the planet, China needs to engage in
    offsetting measures. That is the nature of the game. If yanqui hypocrites are not happy, then they should stop playing.

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    Post  lancelot Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:45 pm

    If the US funded the building it was probably bugged to high hell anyway. Better to demolish it and build a new one.
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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:43 pm

    Backman wrote:
    It was used for the first time by the short-lived anti-Bolshevik Belarusian National Republic (BNR) between March 1918 and February 1919.

    However, the white-red flag emerged again during World War II, as a symbol of the Nazi administration in Belarus, also appearing on arm patches of Belarusian Nazi collaborationists who volunteered in the German Army and the SS.

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    The flag was always a western anti-Russian (including Belorussian) project. During WWII Germany openly tried to cleave regions like
    Ukraine off from Russia. They promoted secessionists in Belorus as well. As in Ukraine, they had local partially assimilated and ethnic
    non-Russians who pined for the days of the Polish-Lithuanian occupation. Belorussian and Ukrainian nationalism is fake and grotesque.
    Hitler continued with the same policy as Germany (and others) engaged in during WWI. So this red and white banner is a pure symbol
    of western sponsored secessionist militancy. It really is a terrorist banner.

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    Post  lancelot Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:55 pm

    The German military intelligence in WWI also put Lenin on a train into Russia. They funded all sorts of insurgents to break apart the Russian Empire.
    Hitler also supposedly had connections to German military intelligence.

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    Post  slasher Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:38 am

    Ha ha ha... let them eat themselves up from within. Hope this blows up big so we can enjoy the show.

    Polish deputy speaker under fire over comments on Belarus opposition leader

    Poland's nationalist government is critical of Lukashenko, who has cracked down on his opponents, and Warsaw has voiced support for the Belarusian opposition.

    But in comments that did not appear to chime with the government's position, deputy parliamentary speaker Ryszard Terlecki, a senior member of the ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party, condemned her meeting with Trzaskowski. read more

    "If Tsikhanouskaya wants to advertise the anti-democratic opposition in Poland and speak at Trzaskowski's meeting, let her look for help in Moscow, and let us support a Belarusian opposition that is not on the side of our opponents," he wrote on Twitter late on Friday.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:31 am

    Whats happening in the Czech Republic should be a go signal for both Russia and China to pursue their own regime change operations in countries sympathetic to Uncle Swine and install their own friendly regimes. Make America bleed in every possible opportunity to hasten up its collapse

    The EU are neighbours and are not going anywhere.

    Russia should not engage in regime change in western countries... any real actual evidence of this will galvanise them together and put them in actual war mode where broken economies don't matter any more... you can just seize the resources you need.

    The West is broken and half of the EUs problems are its lack of independence from Washington and its lack of intelligence and democracy in Brussels.

    Whether the US breaks or not does not matter... if they do break Russia certainly does not benefit from being any part of it because in such a state the US will find it easiest to lash out and it does have nuclear weapons.

    America is doing all the wrong things right now, so really Russia does not have to do anything except look after its own interests.

    If America and the EU want to grow up and start treating other countries with respect instead of pieces on a chess board they think they have the right to order around and direct based on their rules and ideology, then there might be a way out for them that might even be rather good for everyone.

    Or they can continue to be condescending censored  that isolate themselves while trying to bully others.

    Lots of things might happen in the future... the US might collapse, the EU might collapse, or they both might remain but actually become independent separate poles in a new multipolar world... if the EU remains Americas bitch then there is not much future with Russia because the US wants Europe as a market and does not want to share that with Russia... it sees Russia as a rival and wants to burn any bridges between the EU and Russia and India and Russia and even China and Russia... isolate and weaken.

    The EU might realise China is spending trillions setting up trade routes between Asia and Europe to improve trade and develop commerce so both sides can make money and develop, and US attempts to demonise China are just attempts to stop their customers in Europe turning to Asia instead... obviously also using Russian territory for trade will earn Russia some money too which they don't like much either.

    The EU needs to man up and make some serious decisions... WWII is over and Russia is not interested in getting any more land. Russia is not going to invade Europe to steal more land... that would create more problems than it would solve unless it plans to exterminate all its enemies at the same time.

    What Russia is aware of is that HATO is a military force directed at Russia and therefore forms a threat that needs to be able to be eliminated if needs be.

    This means it is clear Russia will be building forces and capabilities to eliminate HATO and HATO countries, but that is not the same as wanting to invade and conquer.  

    Don't censored  with them and they wont censored  with you... pretty obvious really.

    But look at things the other way around and the west is spending big money turning countries on Russias border against Russia and trying to get them into HATO... if any country in Europe should be as paranoid as the EU it should be Russia.

    Eventually the EU will wake up and trade and better relations might be possible, but a few new EU countries are going to need a good smack from the rest of the EU to stop them being little bitches that could ruin any useful relationship the EU could have with Russia... but that is up to the EU and not Russia... if the EU can't control its little bitches then Russia can look elsewhere for trade.... it has lots of options with countries that wont screw Russia at every opportunity.
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    Post  Kiko Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:20 pm

    Glory to Ukraine Zeros!, by Finian Cunningham for Sputniknews. June 7, 2021.

    The clowns in the Western-backed Kiev regime excel at least at one thing. Political slapstick. Every time President Volodymyr Zelensky – a former TV comedian – and his regime make an announcement it’s like watching clowns slapping cream cakes into their own faces.

    The latest gaffe is the unveiling of Ukraine’s national football kit for the UEFA European Championship, which is emblazoned with a Nazi-era slogan: “Glory to Ukraine! Glory to Heroes!”

    The soccer tournament kicks off this week and lasts for a month drawing in global TV audiences who will no doubt be given something to think about regarding Ukraine’s dark and dirty past as a Nazi accomplice. And that past is very much alive in the present as demonstrated by the new football kit and its “Glory to Heroes” slogan. How the Western supporters of the Kiev regime must be cringing.

    This was the rallying call of the Ukrainian paramilitaries led by Stepan Bandera who collaborated with the Nazi SS during to the Second World War to exterminate millions of their compatriots as well as Russian people.

    The slogan was revived by the Neo-Nazi militants who seized power in Kiev in 2014 after a violent coup d’état against an elected president who had maintained friendly relations with Russia. The coup was crucially backed by the United States and European Union. Indeed, the CIA is implicated in the false-flag sniper shootings against scores of protesters and police officers in Maidan Square on February 20, 2014, which were blamed on the incumbent government, and the event as falsely reported by Western media was pivotal in overthrowing the existing authorities.

    Thus the Western powers, who constantly proclaim to uphold democracy and rule of law, helped bring back fascism to the European continent through their support for the Kiev regime.

    And no wonder the ethnic Russian people of Crimea subsequently voted to secede and join the Russian Federation in the weeks after the coup that brought Banderites to power. Crimean people suffered terribly under the Nazis and their Ukrainian death squads. The same goes for the people of Ukraine’s southeast Donbas region around Donetsk and Luhansk who have refused to recognize the legitimacy of the Kiev imposters and have established their own autonomous republics. The breakaway republics are constantly shelled by Kiev’s military in violation of a supposed ceasefire.

    Western governments turn reality on its head and accuse Moscow of “annexing” Crimea – an ancient part of Russia that voted democratically in a referendum to join the Russian Federation. The West also accuses Russia of covertly invading and destabilizing Ukraine when it is Washington that has supplied the Kiev regime with over $2 billion in arms since 2014 and NATO troops are actively collaborating on the ground with Ukrainian forces in their offensive against the people of Donbas.

    The Western media have assiduously avoided reporting on the stark reality of Neo-Nazi ideology popular among Kiev’s politicians and its various military formations. The Azov Battalion is openly a modern-day reincarnation of the Ukrainian fascists who glory in Nazi past crimes. But Western media never report on these sordid links of a regime supported by the United States, the EU and NATO.

    However, embarrassingly for the Western patrons, the Kiev clowns just put their faces into foam cake by unveiling a football kit that makes the Nazi legacy explicit to a global audience.

    This is just the latest example of how the bozos in Kiev can’t help falling over themselves with their own stupid logic and arrogance.

    Take another: the reason why Kiev says the Nord Stream 2 project should be stopped. This is the pipeline under the Baltic Sea supplying natural gas from Russia directly to Germany, thereby reducing the dependence on Ukraine as a transit route for the fuel.

    President Zelensky made the absurd remark recently with a straight face that reduced transit fees paid by Russia would prevent the Kiev regime from maintaining its armed forces. The intended implication being that Ukraine would be under-defended against alleged “Russian aggression”.

    It doesn’t get more ludicrous than that. The Kiev regime that the West installed in 2014 has done everything to impede the regular flow of gas from Russia to Europe. That’s because of its monopolistic position of having pipelines across its territory to Europe and also because of its anti-Russian hostile ideology. Now that Russia has legitimately reduced its dependence on the Ukrainian land route by opening up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, the Kiev regime is complaining about losing out on billions of dollars worth of transit fees.

    And then, twisting the cream cake on his face, Zelensky is further claiming that the financial loss will curtail spending on Ukraine’s army and Neo-Nazi paramilitaries who are relentlessly shelling the Donbas region and thwarting any possibility of finding a peaceful settlement to the seven-year civil war.

    Kiev’s comedian-turned-president wants Russian money to fund aggression against ethnic Russian people, and to continue a conflict that is endangering peace in Europe.

    Who needs smart Russian “propaganda”, when the West and its circus troupe is so self-indicting?

    https://sputniknews.com/columnists/202106071083092154-glory-to-ukraine-zeros/

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    Post  kvs Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:09 pm

    But the west loves inane, cheeseball propaganda.   Recall Litvinenko, the "Putin critic", who was an indirect asset for Putin.   He would routinely
    spout the most inane conspiracy theories about Russia and Putin.   For example, that the Danish Muhammad cartoon scandal was organized
    by the Kremlin.   Litvinenko also claimed to have a suitcase full, which he never produced over a period over 10 years long, of proof about various
    issues such as the August 1999 apartment bombings in Russia staged by Wahabbi terrorist Khattab, that Litvinenko and his western patrons tried to
    blame on Putin as being some pretext to "invade" Chechnya.    The little detail of the Wahabbi warlords in Chechnya invading the Russian constituent
    Daghestan earlier in 1999 is somehow not enough pretext.   What sorts of imbeciles would believe this tinfoil hat rubbish?   Imagine if Mexico invaded
    Texas and the US would need to stage some apartment bombings in New York to "justify" military retaliation against Mexico.

    Zelensky knows that the west is run and dominated by clowns who love to wallow in fantasy projection and deny reality.    Karl Rove was not the
    only clown who believe that America could create reality through the force of its will.   NATzO is run by such lunatics.   And these lunatics feed
    their tin foil hat excrement to the MSM consumer sheeple day in and day out.

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