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    AlfaT8

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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:39 pm

    The PAK-TA (couldn't find any vids right now as good as the one on vimeo(https://vimeo.com/103542677))


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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Firebird on Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:49 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Firebird wrote:http://rt.com/news/242097-pak-ta-russian-army/

    OK to this does look a bit like fan art. But I'm sure it CAN be done.
    The question is whether Russia and its partners will want to.

    Either way, its a seriously impressive piece of kit.

    I suppose you could do civilian variants too.

    Maybe this is Russia's way of telling America to start growing up?

    EDIT:
    They say the devil is in the detail.
    The initial plan is a 900kph aircraft, then there is talk of a 2000kph, then "probably hypersonic".

    It would be intreresting to see the planned timeframes for all 3.

    Yes I reported on the PAK TA project some 6 months ago but their wasn't any specifics. My thoughts are that the project seems too optimistic, 200 ton payload capability is possible, so is supersonic speed, but both 200 ton payload and supersonic speed? I think it isn't impossible, but is it probable? It can possibly be done, however what if it turns out to be extremely expensive? Like $1 or 2 billion a piece? Surely that wouldn't be worth the cost? 200 ton payload at 'sub-sonic' speed seems like it's a more cost-effective a viable target/option, but here's a case where I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong, but I have to see it before I can believe it...as in it leaves the drawing board stage, and with actual flying prototypes that meet the advertised requirements.


    I was thinking, this could be a HUGE development, so I set up a separate thread for it.
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:11 am

    Interesting stealthy design, but that single engine would have to be enormously powerful and I rather suspect it will be sub sonic or transonic rather than highly supersonic as depicted.

    Just looking at the vid I suspect the three versions are 80, 120, and 200 ton payload capacity aircraft that will be subsonic. The wing angle suggests subsonic speeds. I rather doubt it would be swing wing.

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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  collegeboy16 on Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:54 pm

    noice- heavy armour on demand is fckin awesome. not to mention the graphics look like one of the x-com skyranger concept grown biggur- preparing for alien invasion perhaps?
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  collegeboy16 on Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:54 pm

    noice- heavy armour on demand is fckin awesome. not to mention the graphics look like one of the x-com skyranger concept grown biggur- preparing for alien invasion perhaps?
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  collegeboy16 on Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:55 pm

    noice- heavy armour on demand is fckin awesome. not to mention the graphics look like one of the x-com skyranger concept grown biggur- preparing for alien invasion perhaps?
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:04 pm

    They're building an airstrip on Franz Jozef land.

    http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2015/03/18/331497.html

    Apparently, 2 x Il-78's + 4 x Su-34's will be based there, as well as 150 maintenance and security personell.

    Not far from the North Pole....
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:12 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:They're building an airstrip on Franz Jozef land.

    http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2015/03/18/331497.html

    Apparently, 2 x Il-78's + 4 x Su-34's will be based there, as well as 150 maintenance and security personell.

    Not far from the North Pole....

    Su-34 for Naval Strike??
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:29 pm

    George1 wrote:Su-34 for Naval Strike??

    Land and naval I would guess.....it would also be a good place for refueling heavy bombers for over the North Pole missions, which is why the Il-78's will be there for I presume
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    Russia starts new drills in Southern Siberia

    Post  TheSentinel on Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:44 pm

    Russia has confirmed that the Eastern Military District will start new military drills in the Republic of Buryatia.

    S-300 SAM, Su-30 Flanker and Su-25 Frogfoot aircrafts to take part in the drills.

    Wrote something on my blog about it. I can'T wait to be able to post my links Razz

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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:55 am

    Nice...

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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:22 am

    Another An-148 for the Ministry of Defense of Russia
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:22 am

    The tethered aerostat complex "Peresvet", which is planned to put a new generation of repeater
    created in the interests of the Russian Defense Ministry, is entering a stage of state tests.





    He noted that the supply of the complex "Peresvet" was provided by the arms program for the period up to 2020. "Previously, the expected supply of this year the first two sets, but due to the prolongation of state tests, delivery may be no earlier than 2016," - said the source.

    ...

    Earlier it was reported that the tethered balloon "Peresvet" is a key element of a relay set of a new generation. According to the technical task of the balloon must "stand" in the air for 15 days with no additional gas filling, and at different heights (100, 300, 1000 and 3000 m). "Peresvet" volume is 2850 cubic meters at an altitude of 3000 m allows you to set the target load of 300 kg, and at altitudes of 1-1.5 km load increases to approximately 500 kg.


    Source: http://vpk-news.ru/news/24972

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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  Guest on Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:33 am

    As the Voronezh plant complete the MoD's An-148 orders, will those be the last Antonov designed aircraft that will be procured by Russia?
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:56 pm

    As the Voronezh plant complete the MoD's An-148 orders, will those be the last Antonov designed aircraft that will be procured by Russia?

    I would expect so... the An-70 is dead for Russia, while the An-72, An-26/32, An-22 are all planned to be replaced in the future... they might upgrade a few AN-124s and might even build some new ones, but the family of new transport aircraft they are funding development of includes an 80, a 120-150, and a 250 ton payload class aircraft which clearly will replace the An-22 and An-70 (80), the An-124(120-150), and An-225 (250) respectively.

    the An-22 is useful, the An124 has been very useful and an An-225 will be more and more useful as the Russian space agency starts working with bigger and bigger rockets.

    Odds are they might only make 3-5 250 ton payload class aircraft though india and china might want some too... there would certainly be a world market for maybe 10-15 such aircraft.

    the 120-150 ton payload aircraft would be very useful for a variety of new roles with their new mobile armour units so they might plan for 80+ aircraft in this class for domestic use only... with world wide demand pretty high too as it is a useful weight capacity.

    the 80 ton payload aircraft would be even more popular as a C-17 alternative without the horrendous cost and will likely be bought by the VDV as an An-70 replacement as well as the Russian air force.

    In addition to those three related designs, there will be the Il-476 in the 60 ton payload class and a future possible replacement, the MTA developed with India as a replacement for the An-12, and the Il-114 and Il-112 or just two variants of the Il-112 to replace the An-26 and An-32... and finally the Ryachok to replace the venerable An-2.

    A jet powered Il-112 or Il-114 would replace the An-72 in the role of 6 ton payload high speed jet if the MTA is deemed too big, but I think something could be worked out.
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

    Post  TR1 on Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:20 am

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:As the Voronezh plant complete the MoD's An-148 orders, will those be the last Antonov designed aircraft that will be procured by Russia?

    Aviakor makes An-140s...




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