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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:52 pm



    Aftermath footage, NSFW.

    Also it should have been better edited as it airs delays for SA guidelines.

    There is talk of very accurate targeting facilitated by press reports on Twitter and some hints by the Russian command.
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    Post  Khepesh Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:26 pm

    More than hints about this. Konashenkov made a very strong statement, and while saying the actual attack was by terrorists and saying that it is understood where the accurate information and co-ordinates came from, directly accused America, Britain and France saying that they are the patrons of terrorists and that the blood of our soldiers is on their hands.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:37 pm

    Khepesh wrote:More than hints about this. Konashenkov made a very strong statement, and while saying the actual attack was by terrorists and saying that it is understood where the accurate information and co-ordinates came from, directly accused America, Britain and France saying that they are the patrons of terrorists and that the blood of our soldiers is on their hands.

    Fact is that they should have never allowed "Western Press" nearby the actual facility. Rest in Peace to the Doctor. I hope this get some follow up because we're clearly going on a bad path right here.
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    Post  Guest Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:41 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:More than hints about this. Konashenkov made a very strong statement, and while saying the actual attack was by terrorists and saying that it is understood where the accurate information and co-ordinates came from, directly accused America, Britain and France saying that they are the patrons of terrorists and that the blood of our soldiers is on their hands.

    Fact is that they should have never allowed "Western Press" nearby the actual facility. Rest in Peace to the Doctor. I hope this get some follow up because we're clearly going on a bad path right here.

    I thought doctor was wounded and that nurse died.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:58 pm

    Thanks mainly to the Syrian Express

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — "A unique logistical system encompassing all types of transport used by the armed forces and commercial organizations was devised by the army to effectively supply material resources to Russian service personnel… As of today, over 710,000 tonnes of missiles, ammunition, fuels, provision and other resources have been delivered," Bulgakov told the Izvestia newspaper.

    Throughout the year, Russia' Hmeymim airbase saw the opening of three cafeterias, a centralized refueling station, two saunas, three warehouses of various designations, a platform for military transport aircraft and a helicopter pad, according to the deputy minister. Additionally, a military town with the corresponding infrastructure was built in the Mediterranean city of Tartus to service the S-300 missile system recently delivered to Syria, he added.

    Russia has been involved in the Syrian conflict since September 2015, when it started an anti-terrorist aerial campaign at the request of Syrian President Bashar Assad. The Hmeymim airbase became central to the campaign, while the Tartus naval facility has been operated by Russia for decades.

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612051048164573-russia-delivers-supplies/
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:02 pm

    Bastards.

    Militants shelled a mobile Russian hospital in Aleppo, killing a female paramedic and wounding two doctors, the Russian Defense Ministry's spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said Monday.

    "Today during an appointment of local residents, militants attacked with artillery the Defense Ministry medical facility's mobile hospital in Aleppo. As a result of a direct hit, one Russian military paramedic was killed and two staff workers were badly wounded. Locals rushed to help and were also hurt," he said.

    Noting that, as Western colleagues claim, all al-Nusra Front terrorists were cornered in Eastern Aleppo's southern part by the Syrian Army, Konashenkov said they were unable to deliver such precise fire. The spokesman underscored that militants of the Syrian "opposition" were "undoubtedly" behind the attack. "We know who provided the militants with information on the Russian hospital and its exact coordinates. Therefore it's not only the actual perpetrators who are responsible for murdering and wounding our medics who were administering aid to Aleppo children." "The hands of those who instigated this murder are also coated with the blood of our servicemen. Those who created, fed and armed those beats in human disguise, naming them 'opposition' for justification before their own conscience and voters. Yes, [this blood is on your hands], terrorists' patrons from the US, UK, France and their sympathizers," he said.

    Earlier in the day, RT said that Russian doctors were killed in rebel shelling of a hospital in Aleppo.

    Russian military medics have begun to consult the residents of Syrian Aleppo's eastern districts liberated from militants. They opened a clinic, a medical ward for children, a surgery department, an intensive care department, a laboratory and an x-ray room.


    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612051048178821-shelling-kills-russian-medics-aleppo/
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:40 pm

    It gets worse, two now dead with the other really bad.

    One of the two Russian medics wounded by militants' shelling of a hospital in Aleppo has died, the Russian Defense Ministry's spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said on Monday. Doctors are fighting for the life of the second wounded medic, a pediatrician.

    "A [female] Russian military medic has died as a result of the injuries she sustained in 'opposition' militants' artillery shelling of the Defense Ministry's hospital in Aleppo," Konashenkov said. The doctors did their best to save her life but could not prevent her death. "But the severe wounds were fatal.

    At the moment the doctors are fighting for the life of their badly wounded colleague, a pediatrician" he said.


    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/world/201612051048187734-russian-medic-aleppo-dies/
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    Post  TheArmenian Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:54 pm

    I suspect that the Russian MoD is preparing a retaliatory strike.
    We may see Kalibrs, Kh-101s, Kh-55s and lots of activity from Hmeyim and Kuznetsov. Maybe even Iskander this time.
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    Post  par far Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:41 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:I suspect that the Russian MoD is preparing a retaliatory strike.
    We may see Kalibrs, Kh-101s, Kh-55s and lots of activity from Hmeyim and Kuznetsov. Maybe even Iskander this time.




    This should have been done before sending the mobile hospitals and medical crew.

    RIP to the nurses.
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    Post  BKP Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:46 pm

    AK-Rex wrote:Russian Su-33 crashed in the Mediterranean while attempting to land on Kuznetsov aircraft carrier

    Less than three weeks after losing a MiG-29, it looks like the Russian Navy has lost another aircraft during Admiral Kuznetsov operations: a Su-33 Flanker.

    Military sources close to The Aviationist report that a Russian Navy Su-33 Flanker carrier-based multirole aircraft has crashed during flight operations from Admiral Kuznetsov on Saturday, Dec. 3.

    According to the report, the combat plane crashed at its second attempt to land on the aircraft carrier in good weather conditions (visibility +10 kilometers, Sea State 4, wind at 12 knots): it seems that it missed the wires and failed to go around falling short of the bow of the warship.

    The pilot successfully ejected and was picked up by a Russian Navy search and rescue helicopter.

    Considered that on Nov. 14 a MiG-29K crashed while recovering to the aircraft carrier, if confirmed this would be the second loss for the air wing embarked on Admiral Kuznetsov in less than three weeks and a significant blow for the Russian Naval Aviation during its combat deployment off Syria.

    https://theaviationist.com/2016/12/05/russian-su-33-crashed-in-the-mediterranean-while-attempting-to-land-on-kuznetsov-aircraft-carrier/

    Anyone care to venture a guess as to what will become of the MiG and SU? Will they simply lay at the bottom of the sea intact or will they be targets of a demolition operation?
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    Post  OminousSpudd Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:58 pm

    I'd wait for other sources or MoD to confirm first before jumping the gun on the Su-33. The Aviationist is usually full of it.

    RIP to the paramedics. If the US is involved in the intel for the strike, they better be held accountable. I hear they have some SOF operators in Northern Syria... With no air-cover...
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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:50 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:I suspect that the Russian MoD is preparing a retaliatory strike.
    We may see Kalibrs, Kh-101s, Kh-55s and lots of activity from Hmeyim and Kuznetsov. Maybe even Iskander this time.

    This is a mandatory move. The jihadis should have hundreds of their rank roasted alive for this. Satan is waiting for them.
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    Post  eehnie Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:20 am

    GarryB wrote:
    The ZU-23-2 and the 2B9 Vasilek are likely to be finished in Russia by this war, and maybe in Novorussia too.

    Really don't understand what you have against such weapons... both can still do the jobs they were designed to do...

    The question is not if I hate or not if I have something or not against the ZU-23-2 and the 2B9 Vasilek (something that is not true).

    The question is that as explained in previous comments Russia is taking a responsability of providing Syria with the necessary to survive. It includes some advanced systems (basically Surface-Air and Surface-Surface, between other things), but also includes lower technology weapons and ammunitions for the big amounts of soldiers fighting (in adition to what Syria can get from other friend countries).

    We begin with the fact that Russia is sending also lower technology weapons to Syria in good amounts, and the oldest and weakest (technologically) weapons in the Russian inventories are also to be used when it is required, like now.

    Obviously Russia will do the work of identifying their less capable and older weapons to send them to Syria. These weapons remain useful and appreciated there, and are the cheapest option to give them something in enough amounts for the Syrian soldiers can have something to fight above man-portable weapons. And Russia will replace these less capable weapons with more units of more capable weapons that are today in the orders for procurement.

    And Russia will do it without my opinion, but I tried to do this same work of identifying the less capable weapons present in the Russian Armed Forces today. I identified the ZU-23-2 and the 2B9 Vasilek as the weakest weapons today since I do not find evidence after 2014 of the presence of a number of weapons that some sources still keep as present (M-30, D-20, D-1, M-46, M-160, ML-20, B-4M or the S-60). And in this case I see the ZU-23-2 coming to Syria, which means my identification is not as wrong.

    You can do also the same exercice, and if you find something different you can comment it. It is obvious that Russia will send to Syria the less capable heavy weight weapons in their hands. Which weapons, which warfare would you consider the less capable today in the Russian hands? Why?

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    To continue with the argument, Russia will finnish some of their less capable heavy weight warfare if is required by this war. There is some sense to keep the old units of ZU-23-2 or 2B9 Vasilek if the requirements of weapons from Syria are enough to exhaust them in the Russian inventories? No. Russia will send all them if required, and I think this war is big enough for it.

    And finally, the next step is to see which weapons can be ordered by Russia to restore their inventories after the warfare sends to Syria? Obviously they will not order more units of their less capable warfare. They will order modern weapons for the same roles.

    In the case of the ZU-23-2 (taking into account that Russia has more warfare in between):
    - For anti-air roles they will likely order SA-22.
    - For the infantry roles they can likely order modern IFVs with cannons of high elevation which development is beign finished. As example this: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvpk-news.ru%2Fnews%2F33827

    In the case of the 2B9 Vasilek (again taking into account that Russia has more warfare in between):
    - For the light mortar role they will likely order 2B25 mortars (13Kg instead of the 632Kg of the 2B9).
    - For the heavy artillery piece role with good rate of fire they can likely order modern self propelled vehicles based on the new land platforms (BMD-4M, Kurganets or Bumerang) with the new 120mm weapon. As example: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvpk.name%2Fnews%2F165831_opyitnyii_obrazec_samohodnogo_orudiya_lotos_dlya_vdv_sozdadut_v_2017_godu.html
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:10 am

    A half-direct slam to Western government

    https://www.rt.com/news/369282-russian-foreign-ministry-hospital-bombing/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    It is beyond doubt that the shelling was conducted by the ‘opposition’ militants. Moscow understands who gave the Syrian militants the coordinates of the Russian hospital right at the moment when it started working,” the Defense Ministry’s spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:27 am

    BKP wrote:
    AK-Rex wrote:Russian Su-33 crashed in the Mediterranean while attempting to land on Kuznetsov aircraft carrier

    Less than three weeks after losing a MiG-29, it looks like the Russian Navy has lost another aircraft during Admiral Kuznetsov operations: a Su-33 Flanker.

    Military sources close to The Aviationist report that a Russian Navy Su-33 Flanker carrier-based multirole aircraft has crashed during flight operations from Admiral Kuznetsov on Saturday, Dec. 3.

    According to the report, the combat plane crashed at its second attempt to land on the aircraft carrier in good weather conditions (visibility +10 kilometers, Sea State 4, wind at 12 knots): it seems that it missed the wires and failed to go around falling short of the bow of the warship.

    The pilot successfully ejected and was picked up by a Russian Navy search and rescue helicopter.

    Considered that on Nov. 14 a MiG-29K crashed while recovering to the aircraft carrier, if confirmed this would be the second loss for the air wing embarked on Admiral Kuznetsov in less than three weeks and a significant blow for the Russian Naval Aviation during its combat deployment off Syria.

    https://theaviationist.com/2016/12/05/russian-su-33-crashed-in-the-mediterranean-while-attempting-to-land-on-kuznetsov-aircraft-carrier/

    Anyone care to venture a guess as to what will become of the MiG and SU? Will they simply lay at the bottom of the sea intact or will they be targets of a demolition operation?

    Probably demo after all nice things have been stripped/denied because from my understanding they're into over 500m depth. That gives also the possibility to recover (at least the SU).
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    Post  zg18 Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:48 pm

    Aleppo

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    Post  par far Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:18 pm

    "RUSSIA DEPLOYS MILITARY POLICE FROM ITS REPUBLIC OF CHECHNYA TO SYRIA’S ALEPPO (VIDEO)."

    Good experience for them, hopefully they all stay safe.





    https://southfront.org/russia-deploys-military-police-from-its-republic-of-chechnya-to-syrias-aleppo-video/


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    Post  par far Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:07 pm

    "RUSSIAN SPECIAL FORCES ELIMINATE LEADERS OF MILITANTS IN SYRIA – REPORTS."


    https://southfront.org/russian-special-forces-eliminate-leaders-of-militants-in-syria-reports/


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    Post  JohninMK Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:22 pm

    zg18 wrote:Aleppo

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    Clearly getting into their holiday gear Smile
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:26 am

    Photo from the Syrian Army of another holiday maker.

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    Post  eehnie Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:01 am

    At this rythm the pocket in Aleppo can fall in two days.
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    Post  crod Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:52 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    zg18 wrote:Aleppo

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    Clearly getting into their holiday gear Smile

    oh what fun these scallywags will have - holidaying along the coast, visiting the ancient monuments and removing vermin as they come across it....
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    Post  crod Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:55 am

    JohninMK wrote:Photo from the Syrian Army of another holiday maker.

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    well I guess that's the pleasure of a holiday - all the time in the world to ponder matters....shall I shoot him in the head, leg or balls. attack
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:21 pm

    It looks like Israel is looking to be kicked in the ass real hard by Russia..

    There are reports.. from Syrianperspective of another Israeli missile attack on Syria ,
    flying close to Tartus and Russia navy intercepted it..


    This is unconfirmed information but will be interesting indeed if True
    and will show the Netanyahu terrorist government really desperate
    to come to the rescue of ALqaeda and ISIS in SYria and provoke a
    major conflict against Syria now and even seeking to intimidate Russia.
    with the bullshit excuses that they were bombing a "transfer of weapons"
    to "hezbolah" , now the idiots claim it was weapons of mass destruction.. what Syria
    was trying to transfer to hezbolah..  Laughing


    The latest zionist government last night was that Assad must go and Trump
    already told he will stay. So there will be major differences between Trump and Netanyahu
    over Syria.. but also Russia will not allow Israel to sabotage their efforts to defeat
    Alqaeda and ISIS in Syria.



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    last night Russian air defense intercepted an Israeli missile over Tartus around 2:45 in the morning explosion heard all over Tartus

    @WithinSyriaBlog everyone in Tartus heard the explosion ,only now I was able to get info from eye witness who saw the explosion in the sky

    one of the RuNavy Ships fired the air defense missile

    image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzEYvjvW8AI_ACZ.jpg

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    it looks like Israel used EXTRA ground to ground guided rocket in it’s attack on Al-Mazzah AB in #Damascus last night



    http://syrianperspective.com/2016/12/syrian-army-liberates-aleppos-old-city-73-of-east-aleppo-in-hands-of-heroic-syrian-army-saudis-and-turks-furious-at-terrorist-surrender-zionist-slime-fire-missiles-at-damascus-military-airba.html

    Interesting petition online to thanks Putin for his help to Syria
    a world wide thanks letter to Russia ,to make viral.

    http://dearputin.com

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    Post  Vann7 Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:46 pm

    a letter to make Viral.. pls share..

    http://dearputin.com





    Dear President Putin,

    As members of the global reality-based community, we’d like to extend our appreciation and support for the Russian Federation’s decision to provide humanitarian and military assistance to Syria, its armed forces and its democratically elected leader, President Bashar al-Assad, in their fight against international US-backed terrorists.
    The launch of airstrikes directed against ISIL terrorists in Syria comes at a critical time,1 just as did Russia’s pivotal role in preventing a Western military intervention in 2013. As a voice of reason and a force for justice, you have the thanks and support of Syrians, Russians and all people of conscience around the world.
    Since 2011, Western leaders have been determined to turn Syria into a failed state. They have gone to the extent of providing funding, training and weaponry to foreign mercenaries who have waged a brutal campaign of terror on the Syrian people and their legitimate government.2 These terrorist forces and religious fanatics do not represent the will of the Syrian people, the majority of whom support President Assad. As you said in your speech at the United Nations General Assembly, it is for the Syrian people and only the Syrian people to decide who should lead them.
    In 2013, when the West was primed to launch a military campaign on Syria, Russia stepped in to broker a peaceful, diplomatic solution. In a sane world, this would be the natural response to international problems, and Russia would not stand alone. Unfortunately, the West continues its dead-end policy of supporting violence, coercion and illegal intervention in the affairs of sovereign nations.
    While the West pushes for destabilization, war and chaos, Russia stands firm in its commitment to dialogue, cooperation, international law and order. Your reaction to the crisis in Syria demonstrates exactly that.
    Like you, President Assad has proven himself to be a man of intelligence, courage and good will. And like most public figures who possess such qualities, he has been relentlessly defamed and slandered by Western governments and media. One example is the Houla massacre in May 2012, in which 108 Syrians were killed, including 49 children. The Syrian military was blamed for this atrocity but it was later revealed that the massacre was perpetrated by forces aligned with the US-backed ‘Free Syrian Army’ (FSA), and that the victims were supporters of the Syrian government.3 Later in 2012, the FSA was observed killing kidnapped civilians and off-duty soldiers.4
    This is the ‘moderate opposition’ group that Western government officials support in their illegal aggression against Mr. Assad, and whom they now accuse Russia of targeting with airstrikes. These facts and others show clearly that the US government and its allies merely profess to fight terror when in fact they directly create and support it in a futile attempt to secure US global hegemony. They do this without the support of the United Nations and without the support of the legitimate governments of the countries they attack.
    The second Secretary-General of the United Nations, Dag Hammarskjold, whom John F. Kennedy considered the greatest statesman of his time, clearly saw the problems facing not only the UN, but the world at large. In 1958 he wrote:
    “The conflict to different approaches to the liberty of man and mind or between different views of human dignity and the right of the individual is continuous. The dividing line goes within ourselves, within our own peoples, and also within other nations. It does not coincide with any political or geographical boundaries. The ultimate fight is one between the human and the subhuman. We are on dangerous ground if we believe that any individual, any nation, or any ideology has a monopoly on rightness, liberty, and human dignity.”5
    We are on dangerous ground. The United States’ self-professed monopoly on rightness, liberty, and human dignity has led to wrongness, oppression and suffering on a massive scale. The Western mentality on display in Libya and Syria is truly subhuman6 — psychopathic7 — embracing the basest aspects of human nature.8
    Naturally, the subhuman is reflected in the results of U.S. policy in Ukraine and Syria. In Ukraine, neo-Nazis are members of Parliament and form battalions which have tortured and murdered men, women and children in the Donbass, with the sanction of the government in Kiev. In Syria, the West’s policy of destruction and the support of terrorism have resulted in ISIL and other terror groups whose methods are publicly condemned but privately supported by Western leaders.9 This is not the vision humanity is desperate to embrace. This is not the vision we seek.
    As long as world leaders continue to submit to the will of political psychopaths, humanity will never build a world of peace.10 We pray that more people will follow your example, by speaking truth to power, by acting firmly on their convictions and by refusing to be controlled by fear and ignorance. We hope that by doing so, we may all do our part to create a truly multipolar world free from the destructive influence of psychopaths and fanatics, and the toxic political structures they create that make peace impossible.
    Sincerely,


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