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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Militarov on Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:05 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:............
    They try to do always ideological prosecution of some useres, spamming the topics with absurd complaining. Their complaining is alwyas directed against the users they ideologically dislike.

    He said while spamming for 2 years straight and counting.... lol1

    I spent 2 months in Russia, came back, this guy is still on with same BS.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Militarov on Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:12 pm

    ultimatewarrior wrote:The jamming means GPS guided Small Diameter Bomb which has 100+ km range can't be used. This forces F-16 to use laser guided bomb at close range no more than 10 or 20 km, making them vulnerable to SAM. I wouldn't be surprised if F-16 pilots get captured if they adventure again.

    It doesnt have to rely on GPS, it has INS too. Midcourse interogation is not available but for fixed targets... not really an issue.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:30 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:............

    He said while spamming for 2 years straight and counting.... lol1

    I spent 2 months in Russia, came back, this guy is still on with same BS.

    I would usually ask why you haven't just posted while you were in Russia but it would be redundant since you pretty much already explained it   Cool

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:35 am

    Militarov wrote:
    ultimatewarrior wrote:The jamming means GPS guided Small Diameter Bomb which has 100+ km range can't be used. This forces F-16 to use laser guided bomb at close range no more than 10 or 20 km, making them vulnerable to SAM. I wouldn't be surprised if F-16 pilots get captured if they adventure again.

    It doesnt have to rely on GPS, it has INS too. Midcourse interogation is not available but for fixed targets... not really an issue.

    Terrain navigation matching is useless over water.. have major limitations.. is useless for example over the open sea . since ocean all looks the same .so there is no way to differentiate anything over open sea.. ..only inside the land it can compare.

    If they were as good , as lets say GPS , then Israel will not have a need to risk ,flying close to Syria to hit
    any target.. they could just launch missiles from 100km  -200km distance. remaining always safe from previous Syria air defenses .. but they need to be as close as possible.. and they only could do  it ,because Russia allowed Israel to get close..  If GPS is jammed by Russia.. the missile will not have a way to correct its position . for being same in every place.. so the missile will need some kind of terrain reference to know where is flying. Near major
    nature formations ,like mountains or rivers ,can be a reference .. but at night they will be blind.  So any kind of terrain navigation system ,with programming.. will always depend on some kind of GPS guidance over long distances but also over radio control.. and if Russia electronics jam both.. then is a major issue.

    This is why israel airforce is always looking to get very close ,as close as possible, to the target they want to hit..
    when they bombed Latakia , based on Russia Military animation . they were less than 20km away of the target.
    flying at night helps reduce the wind influence a bit.. that is weaker.. But any strong wind ,clouds ,mist ,and climate will take any missile away of its flight path. and the more farther is the missile , the more far away will be the miss. Israel use a lot TV guidance..in their attacks.. but if Russia use heavy electronic jamming and heat decoys . then Israel missiles will be totally blind..  The defense of Syria will depend in 1)Russia combat rules.. how close they allow Israel to fly ..that is where Russia draw a line.. 2) depends on how serious is Russia deployment of advance equipment in Syria .3)and the training of Syrian army too.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  eehnie on Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:56 am

    Militarov wrote:I spent 2 months in Russia, came back

    Enjoyed the defeat of Israel?
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  GarryB on Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:57 am

    Flying over water a missile with INS and GPS will monitor its movements... ie flight speed and direction over time to work out its position, but it will also use GPS to check its position as well... it is a bit like a pilot flying low... his instruments will record his movement and will try to allow for wind speed and other factors effecting its accuracy, but when he gets to land he will look for a land mark like a river bend or road and use that to check the accuracy of his INS navigation fix. This correction will make his current location known and more accurate.

    The INS system on a missile might have an accuracy of 200m per hour... so after one hour the precision of the navigation system will be within 200m of where you are supposed to be.

    A 3,000km range cruise missile might be flying for 5-6 hours which would mean by the time it gets to the target area if could be 1.2km out... but the first 2 hours might have been over water with no land features to check and correct its position so it might be 2km out before it hits land but while over land it finds a navigation feature that it uses to correct its accuracy back to zero again so by the time it gets to the target area it will be within a hundred metres of the target so the terminal guidance system sees the actual target and lands the missile within 5m of the target.

    GPS can be used anywhere on the flight to get a navigation accuracy fix to improve accuracy, but not having GPS doesn't mean the missile will miss...

    Most missiles use altitude above the ground and major terrain features to get fixes on the way to the target and the missiles route will be designed to allow several location fixes on the way.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Militarov on Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:07 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:............

    He said while spamming for 2 years straight and counting.... lol1

    I spent 2 months in Russia, came back, this guy is still on with same BS.

    I would usually ask why you haven't just posted while you were in Russia but it would be redundant since you pretty much already explained it   Cool

    Alot of material to post was gathered during the stay tho Razz
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:12 am

    Iran is not their ally. In the context of Syria yes Iran is.
    They won't risk closing South Transportation Corridor going through it. Besides economic, it has a strategic dimension too: Russian forces in Indo-Pacific can be supplied from N/C/S RF faster & for le$$ than via Black, Med., & Red Seas. in the long run, Iran may become the best ally Russia ever had.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  par far on Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:23 pm

    "ARMY SEIZES ANTI-TANK MISSILES AND LOADS OF OTHER WEAPONS IN SOUTHERN SYRIA (VIDEOS, PHOTOS)."















    https://southfront.org/army-seizes-anti-tank-missiles-and-loads-of-other-weapons-in-southern-syria-videos-photos/





    "SYRIAN ARMY NEUTRALIZED MILITANTS WHO ATTEMPTED TO LAUNCH ATTACK IN NORTHERN HAMA."

    "On November 3, the Syrian Army (SAA) detected and targeted a group of militants, which had been preparing to attack some of its positions in the northern Hama countrywide, according to the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA). As a result, several militants were reportedly killed and injured.

    “A unit of the army detected a group of terrorists from Jaysh al-Izza while they were trying to sneak from the southeastern part of the town of al-Lataminah towards military positions around the town … the group was targeted with suitable weapons,” the SANA’s reporter in Hama said.

    Jaysh al-Izza, which was backed by U.S., is considered one of the closest allies of Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS). On November 1, the radical group launched an attack in the southeastern Idlib countryside, during which three Syrian soldiers were killed.

    A day earlier, a Syrian source said that the SAA will launch a military operation in northwestern Syria, if the militants there continue to violate the Russian-Turkish deconfliction agreement.
    "


    https://southfront.org/syrian-army-neutralized-militants-who-attempted-to-launch-attack-in-northern-hama/





    "HUMANITARIAN AID CONVOY ESCORTED BY RUSSIAN FORCES ENTERS AL-RUKBAN CAMP – REPORT."

    https://southfront.org/humanitarian-aid-convoy-escorted-by-russian-forces-enters-al-rukban-camp-report/




    "RUSSIA: WHITE HELMETS IS IN FACT JABHAT AL-NUSRA’S BRANCH."

    "Evidence shows that the White Helments organization is in fact a branch of the Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist group (now known as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham), the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement released via its website.

    In a statement published on its Website on Friday, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs said that it has received information that this fake organization which was established with the support of Western intelligences, is making the last attempts to declare its presence in Syria and this time in the de-escalation zone in Idleb.

    “It is no secret to anyone that this structure has worked exclusively on territories not controlled by the government and hasn’t avoided contacts with terrorists and extremists,” the statemend said. “On top of that, there is a lot of evidence proving that The White Helmets is virtually a branch of the terrorist organization al-Nusra, included in the UNSC’s sanctions list.”

    The foreign ministry also urged the White Helmets’ “western sponsors to realize things as they are and stop defending those who are in actual fact provocateurs and extremists”.

    “There is no need to outline all the “services” carried out by this organization. Let alone set-up videos of staged chemical attacks in the Syrian city of Douma. In actual fact, all reports on chemical substances emerging or moving around Syria feature the mentioning of The White Helmets,” the ministry stated.

    The statement warned that the White Helments is making final desperate attempts to make a name for itself in Syria, this time in the Idlib de-escalation zone.

    “Again, much like in the recent time, this is all about a preparation for a much talked about staged show, aimed at giving a free hand to the lawful Syrian government’s opponents, predominantly among western countries led by Washington,” the ministry stated refering to expected chemical weapons provocations.




    "

    https://southfront.org/russia-white-helmets-is-in-fact-jabhat-al-nusras-branch/


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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:44 pm

    Syria Detects No Israeli Attacks Since Russian S-300

    Russia has delivered 49 units of its sophisticated S-300 long-range surface-to-air missile systems to Syria in wake of the accidental destruction of a Russian Il-20 plane by Syrian air defenses responding to an Israeli attack. The Israeli Air Force (IAF) hasn’t attacked Syria since Russia delivered the S-300 air defense system to the Syrian government forces, Al-Masdar News reported, citing an unnamed military source in Damascus. wrote:

    The source claimed that the IAF hadn’t violated Syria’s airspace from either the disputed Golan Heights or Lebanon, although it has flown close to the border.


    ©️ PHOTO : RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY
    German Media Questions Israeli Claim on New Strikes in Syria Post S-300 Delivery
    The military insider also denied an anonymous Israeli official’s claim, reported by Reuters, that Tel Aviv had carried out attacks after the downing of the Russian warplane on September 17.
    The source further told Al-Masdar news that the Russian military was still training the Syrian air defense units to use the S-300s in the provinces of Latakia and Hama.

    On October 29, Reuters cited a senior Israeli official as saying that the IDF had attacked Syria, “including after the downing of the Russian plane,” while Israel’s Channel 1 reported that one of the strikes had targeted an alleged Iranian shipment of equipment destined for Hezbollah.

    The delivery of 49 units of S-300s was completed in early October after the Russian Defense Ministry announced that it would supply Syria with air defense systems to improve the security of Russian troops stationed there.

    The decision was made in the aftermath of the inadvertent destruction of a Russian Il-20 reconnaissance aircraft by Syrian air defenses repelling an Israeli air strike.

    The Russian military has blamed the wreckage on Tel Aviv, emphasizing that an Israeli fighter jet had used the Russian plane as a shield against Syrian air defense systems. Israel has dismissed the accusations, claiming that it had warned Moscow about the upcoming air raid in the area in advance.


    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201811051069517161-syria-no-israeli-attacks-s300-delivery/


    So it looks the Israelis do respect force after all.. Smile
    They respect S-300s more than words it seems.... no longer free tickets to bomb Syria , now it will have
    to pay an expensive price..if want to continue targeting Syria . One plane shutdown ,by S-300 and the Israel
    invincibility myth will be over ,for ever. Because they are now warned ,their unfriendly planes will be chased.

    The times of flying over Syria with impunity are over and will need to go much farther distances
    and still risk being shutdown ,to target those elusive Iranian fighters ,transfering thermonuclear warheads
    to hezbolah. Wink

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Stealthflanker on Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:25 am

    I would like to think that it's calm before the storm.

    I recalled when Syrian took delivery of BuK-M2's The Israelis suspended their attacks, soon however they resumed it. Kinda too early to assume they don't have anything planned.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:48 am

    I was thinking that we hadn't had a map for a while and along came this one. Sorry about the place names in Turkish!


    Ömer Özkizilcik
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    New map about Foreign Military Presence inside Syria trying to show all American, French, Russian, Iranian, Italian, British, Israeli & Turkish presence

    Thanks @QalaatAlMudiq @obretix @Nrg8000 @op_shield for their help!

    Map via @suriyegundemiEN

    Link: http://en.suriyegundemi.com/foreign-military-presence-in-syria/ …


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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:23 am

    S-300 in Syria - a Preliminary Assessment
    I wonder how many S-300/400s will be theoretically needed to cover all of Syria & all of Iran?

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  ATLASCUB on Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:01 am

    Saker is full of shit but otherwise a decent Russian propagandist. If you can even reconcile that statement.

    Wasn't long he had his analysis saying that what you have today was "impossible and improbable". When Russian MOD forced Putin by the severity of the stupidity - only then things changed (and with it - the directions to their minions). Until then, he did a fine job trying to pacify the "gun hoes" crowd with cheap propaganda.

    I guess he does a fine job given that he has a dedicated audience. But hec so do other propagandist world wide - Westerners in general.

    Breibart here: https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2018/11/10/tucker-carlson-antifa-riot-hints-cubas-campaign-to-export-mob-attacks-is-succeeding/

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:35 am

    ATLASCUB wrote:Saker is full of shit but otherwise a decent Russian propagandist. If you can even reconcile that statement.

    Wasn't long he had his analysis saying that what you have today was "impossible and improbable". When Russian MOD forced Putin by the severity of the stupidity - only then things changed (and with it - the directions to their minions). Until then, he did a fine job trying to pacify the "gun hoes" crowd with cheap propaganda.

    I guess he does a fine job given that he has a dedicated audience. But hec so do other propagandist world wide - Westerners in general.

    Breibart here: https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2018/11/10/tucker-carlson-antifa-riot-hints-cubas-campaign-to-export-mob-attacks-is-succeeding/
    '

    Oh yeah.. as an analyst saker is most of the times pretty bad..
    But still his website at times is useful , because he knows Russian language and translate reports
    from Russian media ,radio to English.. Also Pepe Escobar do reports on his site.. which is a big plus..
    which he have contacts in around the world in politics ,very close to the policy makers.
    Finally is the only very few sites ,that post at times an updated map ,of Russia and US warships
    military positions.. so that information is worth of Gold, could allow you to understand what kind of
    tensions or conflicts could start and where. So what makes the site not too bad and sometimes ok.
    is the external contributions that receive.  But as an analyst he is terrible.. many times.. he however
    did good reports about Ukraine conflict..

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  ATLASCUB on Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:32 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:Saker is full of shit but otherwise a decent Russian propagandist. If you can even reconcile that statement.

    Wasn't long he had his analysis saying that what you have today was "impossible and improbable". When Russian MOD forced Putin by the severity of the stupidity - only then things changed (and with it - the directions to their minions). Until then, he did a fine job trying to pacify the "gun hoes" crowd with cheap propaganda.

    I guess he does a fine job given that he has a dedicated audience. But hec so do other propagandist world wide - Westerners in general.

    Breibart here: https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2018/11/10/tucker-carlson-antifa-riot-hints-cubas-campaign-to-export-mob-attacks-is-succeeding/
    '

    Oh yeah.. as an analyst saker is most of the times pretty bad..
    But still his website at times is useful , because he knows Russian language and translate reports
    from Russian media ,radio to English.. Also Pepe Escobar do reports on his site.. which is a big plus..
    which he have contacts in around the world in politics ,very close to the policy makers.
    Finally is the only very few sites ,that post at times an updated map ,of Russia and US warships
    military positions.. so that information is worth of Gold, could allow you to understand what kind of
    tensions or conflicts could start and where. So what makes the site not too bad and sometimes ok.
    is the external contributions that receive.  But as an analyst he is terrible.. many times.. he however
    did good reports about Ukraine conflict..

    Highly probable (high degree of confidence, highly likely) that Pepe is a Chinese asset. Giving Silk Road boners one article at a time.

    But to the essense of your post - yeah you glean a lot from their work as an outside observer lacking real factual intelligence. It's sadly a minefield of shit out there - no one is invulnerable to step on crap and parrot it - myself included I've to admit.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:52 am

    Finally is the only very few sites ,that post at times an updated map ,of Russia and US warships military positions..
    Pl. post a link, I can't find it there!
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  calm on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:19 pm

    Tigers writing from Idlib outskirts Very Happy

    Syria Idlib A triumphant morning
    We are their upcoming death and their eternal inevitable fear upon their hearts..
    Peace upon all who passed and survived, peace upon the men of the sun,
    Syria Al Assad tigers the manufacturers of triumph.



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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:44 pm

    And he is back, the Tiger PR outlet! Something is about to start after their break.

    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1

    I have my suspicions about now General Suheil al Hassan. Look at the picture in the headline here https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians and compare with any new photo. The same man?

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Vann7 on Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:07 am

    a little off topic.. there is a mini war in Gaza now..
    The Israelis visitors who were laughing at the "incompetence" of Syrian defenses ,
    in stopping Israel missiles . Now don't laugh . when Hamas kitchen Rockets
    are penetrating Israel supposedly impenetrable Iron Shield..  

    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3431-ongoing-500-missiles-mortars-fired-into-israel-from-gaza-today-israeli-armor-being-moved-to-gaza-all-idf-reserves-activated

    Hamas primitive missiles are hitting Israel cities and residential buildings..
    and commercial zones bypassing so called "impenetrable" Israel air defenses.. ,
    from the link..

    grab the video before is deleted from youtube by Israel damage control team..



    So just think about this .
    Israelis can't shield their state from hama kitchen rockets and still think it can win a war
    against Russia. If Israel cannot defend properly against Hamas obsolete ancient hand made
    rockets.. what a chance will have Israel against Russia in a nuclear war? with multi entry warheads ,decoys
    and hypersonic speeds?   Did the Israelis aware , that Just ONE Missile penetration on Israel airspace is game over? , will wipe out their entire tiny region in a few seconds ? and will take down all the nukes too they have.. So for Israel . their nuclear weapons are useless to win a war against a big country.. Even Pakistan will wipe out Israel if they really wanted it to erase israel,if both nations engaged in a nuclear interchange.  The major reason US is on pakistan and finance Pakistan government
    is to keep Pakistan away from Iran influence.. because the day , Pakistan provide nukes to IRAN ,it will be
    game over for Israel. The Israel state will have no chance to survive in a war against a nuclear armed Iran..
    not even against Hezbolah ,if provided  with dozens of nuclear warheads and they fire nukes first...  
    Israel military is a glass cannon.. can hit hard , but is a very fragile state with a glass military and provoking Russia into a war will be suicide for the israel state existence.  cant shield from Kitchen Rockets of Hamas.. and think they will do better against Russia with their many thousands advanced powerful supersonic and hypersonic missiles. Rolling Eyes

    Hall radio copied intel predictions


    U.S. INTEL ANALYSIS
    Israel will start a large, forceful, ground op into Gaza;
    Hamas will counter attack;  Hezbollah may also attack from Lebanon;

    Since Iran is key to supplying HAMAS with weaponry, Israel (could) attack Iranian targets in Syria
    (but so far, they've been deterred by those new S300's in Syria );
    Syria and Russian will hit the attacking Israeli aircraft;
    Israel and USA will reply back;

    Plus add-in ALL of those sanctions from USA taking effect now on Iran and upon Russia . . .

    Everybody will reply back!

    "Butterfly effect"



    i will not be surprised if this is all staged..
    Some assets of Israel infiltrated in Gaza fire at israel..
    they allow missiles to hit some places and later use
    the incident to justify Bombing of lebanon and Syria.. with lethal force.
    in "retaliation to IRAN" .

    Time will tell ,what tricks the Israelis are up to..
    in the next days...after this.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:17 am

    Highly probable (high degree of confidence, highly likely) that Pepe is a Chinese asset. Giving Silk Road boners one article at a time.

    Why wouldn't he be?

    Equally why would an African not be a Chinese fan rather than a fan or Europe or the US... what has the west done for anyone recently?

    In comparison China is investing and helping develop countries all over the world... without telling them who to vote for or demanding law changes to increase their profits locally...
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  nomadski on Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:03 pm


    Does anyone know , if it is possible to offer civilians an exit from zones under control of militants . Can Syrian goverment relocate them to original or new homes or shelters ? Can civilians cross river from east to west ? For trade of goods ? Will SDF allow ? Can Syrian government forces cross territory to put border guards around borders ? A safe passage for border guards ? Has SDF attended peace process ? Are they part of political process ? Have any islamist groups attended peace talks ?

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:29 am

    On a map roll now Smile This is where the active fighting is now.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:01 am

    The shape of events to come? The main thing the SDF are short of is artillery support of their own, seemingly dependent on French or American guns.


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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:41 am

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