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    State Armament Program 2018-2025

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    Vote (multiple choice allowed) for the type of material that in your opinion will remain in the Russian Armed Forces after the end of 2025, and leave without vote the material that will be totally out of the Russian Armed Forces, including of the reserve:

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    eehnie

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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  eehnie on Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:41 am

    Austin wrote:Bondarev: agreed amount of GPU for 2018-2025 is 19 trillion rubles

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4746605

    He clarified that in some areas of work in the new GPV prolonged until 2027.

    This is a clear sign of what is coming.

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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  Austin on Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:54 pm

    The Ministry of Defense called the new LGP a balanced

    https://rg.ru/2017/11/23/v-minoborony-nazvali-novuiu-gpv-sbalansirovannoj.html

    The new state program of armaments is balanced, Tatyana Shevtsova, deputy head of the Defense Ministry, told journalists: 19 trillion rubles - military equipment supplies, 1 trillion will be allocated to the synchronization system.

    "This is the main difference, because the previous LG was planned only for arms supplies, but did not include synchronization costs," Shevtsova said after a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Sochi.

    he Ministry of Defense needs a storage system, a system of basing and equipping the troops. "In the previous LG, this was not taken into account: this LG differs from the previous one in that, in addition to the weapons planned for national security, expenses for synchronization are also planned," the deputy minister explained.

    Shevtsova also said that a government decree will be prepared on the introduction of a system at the enterprises of the OPK, which will allow to correctly form the cost of production. "As a state customer, the price of the contract, the cost of the products is very important to us." We have a lot of disputes with the industrial enterprises, "she said.

    "We got approval of the president to prepare the necessary regulatory framework," Shevtsova said, "we commissioned a pilot project in June, involving enterprises of the Tula region, they worked out the methodology developed by the Defense Ministry on an initiative basis." According to her, the pilot project was successful.

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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  Austin on Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:55 pm

    What does synchronization cost means ? They have allocated additional 1 trillion roubles for it ?
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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  franco on Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:00 pm

    Austin wrote:What does synchronization cost means ? They have allocated additional 1 trillion roubles for it ?

    Perhaps...

    The Ministry of Defense needs a storage system, a system of basing and equipping the troops. "In the previous LG, this was not taken into account: this LG differs from the previous one in that, in addition to the weapons planned for national security, expenses for synchronization are also planned," the deputy minister explained.
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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:04 pm

    I was about to say it means "the logistics",,,but maybe it's best if a native Russian speaker can confirm
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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  eehnie on Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:10 am

    Austin wrote:What does synchronization cost means ? They have allocated additional 1 trillion roubles for it ?

    Is not an usual concept, but as I understand it must be related with the cost of getting the results in development of new material and in production at the right time.

    As example, it must be a right timing between the development and production of all the armata based warfare. All the different armata based material must come in the right amount in a synchronized maner in order to be a ble to do [Russia] a fast transition of a concrete unit, to armata based material.

    Habitually it should refer to overcosts related to accelerate some results to improve the timing, and also to overcosts related to some delay in other cases also to improve the timing. In the case were delays can be required, it would be a need of some, not big, storage. Surely the issue of the storage is not the most important. Surely the most important part of the costs of synchronization will be the cost of accelerating the projects that can cause overall delays in the procurement of weapons to the Russian Armed Forces.

    Following with the example, the T-14 or the T-15 can be more advanced today, as single projects, than some types of armata based artillery, mrls or air defense. The most delayed designs need additional money to be accelerated in order to cause not an overall delay in the formation of new armata units.

    In the refered to the amount, it seems that it is 1 trillion of the 19 trillions for this purpose.

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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  Austin on Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:37 am

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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  Kimppis on Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:47 pm

    Overall it seems to be a pretty good summary, but I have a few major issues:

    1. Why would it take that long to finish the development of "Product 30"? They just unveiled the first images...

    2. And then the "massive delay of S-500"

    Are those predictions based on anything? No...!?
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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:43 am

    By Dmitry Gorenburg....Kilo Golf's mentor no doubt Very Happy

    This guy was claiming that Russia was not capable of mounting an operation outside of it's borders (until 2015 Cool )...as far as I'm concerned, he's living in tra-la land and is basically Full of Sh*t
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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  eehnie on Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:56 am

    The final update/improvement of the comment opening the topic has been included.

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    Re: State Armament Program 2018-2025

    Post  Austin on Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:43 pm

    On the planned costs for LGP 2018-2027. Is not that a little deal?

    https://topwar.ru/131038-o-planovyh-zatratah-na-gpv-2018-2027-ne-malovata-l-kolchuzhka.html

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