Project 971: Akula class

Anyone knows the numbers situation with Akulas?

How many in service, how many in overhaul and how many slated for scraping?

PapaDragon wrote:
Anyone knows the numbers situation with Akulas?

How many in service, how many in overhaul and how many slated for scraping?

Here is the info I have:
- 4 in active service: Gepard, Vepr, Pantera and Kuzbass
- 5 in overhaul/modernization: Volk, Samara, Tigr, Leopard and Magadan (Magadan will probably be leased to India)
- 1 waiting for overhaul/modernization: Nerpa (which was leased to India but now has been returned)
- 1 to be written-off: Bratsk
- 4 already written off: Bars, Kashalot, Akula and Barnaul
- 5 never completed construction: Irbis, Kuguar, Rys + 2 with no names

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PapaDragon wrote:

- 5 never completed construction: Irbis, Kuguar, Rys + 2 with no names

Completed in a way - as Borey.

Krepost wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Anyone knows the numbers situation with Akulas?

How many in service, how many in overhaul and how many slated for scraping?

Here is the info I have:
- 4 in active service: Gepard, Vepr, Pantera and Kuzbass
- 5 in overhaul/modernization: Volk, Samara, Tigr, Leopard and Magadan (Magadan will probably be leased to India)
- 1 waiting for overhaul/modernization: Nerpa (which was leased to India but now has been returned)
- 1 to be written-off: Bratsk
- 4 already written off: Bars, Kashalot, Akula and Barnaul
- 5 never completed construction: Irbis, Kuguar, Rys + 2 with no names

The situation is miserable because RN has almost the same number of active submarines of the 885M project as those of the 971 project. Sevmash knows how to build submarines but overhaul facilities are either incompetent or money is at stake. The modernization of the Leopard submarine takes over 10 years, which is several years more than is needed for the 885M project submarine construction. As I have already written, the only bright spot in Russian shipbuilding is Sevmash.

Amur shipyard.

1. K-284 Akula (1984) ; scrapped in the period between 2004 and 2008 at Zvezda...
2. K-263 Barnaul (1987); scrapped in floating dock PD-14 in the period 2018/19,
3. K-322 Kashalot (1988); in the process of scrapping at Amur shipyard,
4. K-391 Bratsk (1989); from 26.09.2014 in Zvezdochka repair plant, inactive. Planned to be modernized to 971M project.
5. K-331 (1990) ; name REMOVED because one submarine of the project 636.3 has took the name "Magadan", or B-602 Magadan on 01.11.2019. K-331 is in overhaull and this submarine will become the submarine of the project 971U according to russian MOD and it was said that the overhaul will be completed in 2022, not 2023 as previously planned ..
6. K-419 Kuzbas (1992) ; active in the 10th Submarine Division of the Pacific Fleet based in Vilyuchinsk. Modernized and returned to service in march 2016. Project 971U.
7. K-295 Samara (1995); from 26.09.2014 in Zvezdochka repair plant, inactive. According to russian MOD the deadline for the return of this submarine to service has not been determined because the complete old equipment has been removed from the submarine, while the scope of modernization work is significantly higher than planned. This submarine will become the 971M project after modernization is finished.
8. K-152 Nerpa (2009); inactive, in august 2021 it was delivered from Indian navy crew to the crew of the russian submarine K-419. It will probably be handed over to RN, but who knows when.

SEVMASH ;

1. K-480 Bars (1988); scrapped by 2010,
2. K-317 Pantera (1990); probably in service,
3. K-461 Volk (1991); inactive, from 2018 in Zvezdochka and it is planned to be upgraded to the 971M standard, just like the K-328 Leopard. It is planned to be handed over to the Russian Navy in 2023. Project 971M.
4. K-328 Leopard (1992); taken out from the slipyard in Zvezdochka on 26.12.2020 and the submarine is scheduled to be returned to service in 2022. Project 971M.
5. K-154 Tigr (1993); from 2019 in Nerpa repair plant and overhaul will be completed by 2022. This would not happen almost certainly because submarine has not yet been launched and this submarine will not be modernized to 971M standard.
6. K-157 Vepr (1995); returned to service in 2020 after repair, active. This is not a submarine of the 971M project.
7. K-337 Gepard (2001); active, project 971U.

It seems that one of the Akula could have been involved in a weired accident in the Atlantic back in 2020. It collided with a british towed array sonar from a UK frigate.

The sub's periscope was spoted by the frigate's helicopter before that which led the frigate to tryvto track it.

It seems UK lost a big part of the sonar and back then I saw someone saying in the commebts of a youtube video that one of the commander of a akula sub received a prestigious medal in the same year...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/01/06/world/british-warship-collides-with-russian-submarine/index.html

It was even caught on camera by a UK documentary crew :

I'd like to think that the Russian military has a RN towed array in a warehouse somewhere, with specialists crawling over it like army ants on a dead grasshopper...

I like even more the idea of the Russians snickering to themselves that the NATO tech isn't that impressive and is inferior to their own arrays.

Pure conjecture I admit, but it gives a small warm glow inside.

Isos wrote:It seems that one of the Akula could have been involved in a weired accident in the Atlantic back in 2020. It collided with a british towed array sonar from a UK frigate.

The sub's periscope was spoted by the frigate's helicopter before that which led the frigate to tryvto track it.

It seems UK lost a big part of the sonar and back then I saw someone saying in the commebts of a youtube video that one of the commander of a akula sub received a prestigious medal in the same year...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/01/06/world/british-warship-collides-with-russian-submarine/index.html

It was even caught on camera by a UK documentary crew :

The last time similar claims were made "involving Russian Navy" and British warship it turned out that it was actually a BBC documentary. This incident is probably no different.

Big_Gazza wrote:I'd like to think that the Russian military has a RN towed array in a warehouse somewhere, with specialists crawling over it like army ants on a dead grasshopper...  

I like even more the idea of the Russians snickering to themselves that the NATO tech isn't that impressive and is inferior to their own arrays.  

Pure conjecture I admit, but it gives a small warm glow inside.  

If they wee tracking the sub there would have been no collision since they would have evaded it. Which is somehow a proof that the sonar wasn't tracking it.

- K-295 "Samara" with the "Caliber-PL" will remain in the Russian Navy, but not modernized on such a large scale as the K-328 "Leopard" pr. 971M
- K-391 Bratsk, converted for Brahmos missiles, would be transferred to India

https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/258801.html

Still, rebooting the system using a floppy and 8' diskette was taking shorter than doing the same on the French frigate that denied to start LACMs 40 years later

RTN wrote:

Isos wrote:It seems that one of the Akula could have been involved in a weired accident in the Atlantic back in 2020. It collided with a british towed array sonar from a UK frigate.

The sub's periscope was spoted by the frigate's helicopter before that which led the frigate to tryvto track it.

It seems UK lost a big part of the sonar and back then I saw someone saying in the commebts of a youtube video that one of the commander of a akula sub received a prestigious medal in the same year...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/01/06/world/british-warship-collides-with-russian-submarine/index.html

It was even caught on camera by a UK documentary crew :

The last time similar claims were made "involving Russian Navy" and British warship it turned out that it was actually a BBC documentary. This incident is probably no different.

Pics from that "incident"

Mir wrote:Russians showing the middle finger!

Only if we consider that the Russian sub uses a Thales electrooptical sight, what Hole wanted to present

It was a british sub. The question remains if the british sub scored an own goal by hitting a british ship or if the TV channel just put in some pics of a british sub it had in the archives and the accident never occured in the first place.

The mast was spotted by an helicopter and I doubt they gave them the real footage. More likely they just used random images from internet for their "documentary".

The ship went into repair after that accident.

Big_Gazza wrote:I'd like to think that the Russian military has a RN towed array in a warehouse somewhere, with specialists crawling over it like army ants on a dead grasshopper...  

I like even more the idea of the Russians snickering to themselves that the NATO tech isn't that impressive and is inferior to their own arrays.  

Pure conjecture I admit, but it gives a small warm glow inside.  

I mean british propaganda was gloating that the british frigate had already detected and was tracking the russian submarine, while the russian submarine had no idea there was a british frigate in the area and just bumbled onto the the towed array, which supposedly proves that russian subs aren't stealthy and lack situational awareness..

limb wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:I'd like to think that the Russian military has a RN towed array in a warehouse somewhere, with specialists crawling over it like army ants on a dead grasshopper...  

I like even more the idea of the Russians snickering to themselves that the NATO tech isn't that impressive and is inferior to their own arrays.  

Pure conjecture I admit, but it gives a small warm glow inside.  

I mean british propaganda was gloating that the british frigate had already detected and was tracking the russian submarine, while the russian submarine had no idea there was a british frigate in the area and just bumbled onto the the towed array, which supposedly proves that russian subs aren't stealthy and lack situational awareness..

Does anyone really care what stupid bullshittery those limey bastards come out with? These idiots are under the false impression that their pissant nation is something special, or that anything they say has some value. Small insigificant people...

Big_Gazza wrote:

limb wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:I'd like to think that the Russian military has a RN towed array in a warehouse somewhere, with specialists crawling over it like army ants on a dead grasshopper...  

I like even more the idea of the Russians snickering to themselves that the NATO tech isn't that impressive and is inferior to their own arrays.  

Pure conjecture I admit, but it gives a small warm glow inside.  

I mean british propaganda was gloating that the british frigate had already detected and was tracking the russian submarine, while the russian submarine had no idea there was a british frigate in the area and just bumbled onto the the towed array, which supposedly proves that russian subs aren't stealthy and lack situational awareness..

Does anyone really care what stupid bullshittery those limey bastards come out with?  These idiots are under the false impression that their pissant nation is something special, or that anything they say has some value.  Small insigificant people...

Typical behaviour of a person that lives in the shadow of its dominant boss. When the boss isn't there they act like they are the boss.

If the boss dies that person finds its place in the garbage.

They are nothing more than the 51st US state.

It clearly is a banana republic.

From NAVY KORABEL...

"Vepr" in the sea

May 27th, 4:30 pm

In recent years, unfortunately, it is rare to see actual photographs of our nuclear submarines at sea, taken on the same day or on the eve of publication (nuclear submarine forces have long been under the tight cap of the naval services for protecting state secrets). It was all the more surprising to see in the message of the press service of the Federation Council a photo of the PLAK K-157 "Vepr/Boar" at the exercises for students of the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces "Kumzha-2022" (link). The name of the boat is not indicated in the material, however, there is no doubt that it is the Vepr in the picture. The "Gepard/Cheetah", as you know, has a more miniature fairing for the device for setting and fetching a flexible extended towed antenna GAK, and all the other "Schchuka-B/Pike-B" (project 971) of the 24th "animal" division are not in business yet: "Leopard" and "Wolk/Wolf" under repair on the "Zvezda", "Tigr/Tiger" - on the "Nerpa", "Pantera/Panther" - either in anticipation of repairs, or in the sludge. The VTG of the Pacific boats, which ended up in the North by the will of fate, began, as they say, quite recently (in 2020). All the best, of course, is ahead, but for now we will be glad that we have the Vepr, and it is on the move. ■



https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/267304.html

Project 971 Tigr will finish modernization and return to service in 2023.
After modernization it will be armed with Kalibr missile system.

(This year we should expect to see first 971M Leopard in service, after detailed modernization & upgrade at Zvezdochka)

Btw, project 671RTMK Tambov is preparing for sea trials after modernization at Nerpa plant too. His place in the shipyard was taken by another 671RTMK Obninsk which will be repaired and returned to service also.
P.S. Obninsk was already modernized in 2014 and used as a Kalibr missile testing platform.

https://flotprom.ru/2022/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F16/

Highly recommend watching Combat approval, it was released 3 weeks ago if I remember, and all about those subs.
Interesting part, after the repair/modernization they are considered as frontline boats.

ALAMO wrote:Highly recommend watching Combat approval, it was released 3 weeks ago if I remember, and all about those subs.
Interesting part, after the repair/modernization they are considered as frontline boats.

I did watch and from there I extracted an info that Obninsk is at Nerpa for repairs and possible some additional upgrade (even though it passed modernization in 2013).

here is the link for other viewers -->