Syrian War: News #11

calm wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:This tank couldn't be captured, since it most that probably totally burnt out inside and whole parts of the autoloader being unserviceable. So please can you just simmer down?
This is on the front line probably at 2/2,5 km.
Also I have big issues believing the tank was driving in the dark with Shtora shut down at the forefront of the battle. Which shows how fucked up this is.

What about that t-90 captured on Mallah farms? Probably in Turkey by now.
And why giving modern thanks to some Afghan militias that were paid by Iran to come to fight in Syria? And sending t-62M to newly formed 5 corps made up of Syrians. After all send those t-90 to Republican Guard.

Yeah, they have two none operational, gg.

Why would Turks need early T90 models when they got their buddies Azerbaijanis operating them.

Militarov wrote:

calm wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:This tank couldn't be captured, since it most that probably totally burnt out inside and whole parts of the autoloader being unserviceable. So please can you just simmer down?
This is on the front line probably at 2/2,5 km.
Also I have big issues believing the tank was driving in the dark with Shtora shut down at the forefront of the battle. Which shows how fucked up this is.

What about that t-90 captured on Mallah farms? Probably in Turkey by now.
And why giving modern thanks to some Afghan militias that were paid by Iran to come to fight in Syria? And sending t-62M to newly formed 5 corps made up of Syrians. After all send those t-90 to Republican Guard.

Yeah, they have two none operational, gg.

Why would Turks need early T90 models when they got their buddies Azerbaijanis operating them.

Russia was fairly conscient of the risk of losing some units. The T-90 is not a technological secret, but not because of being in Azerbaijan. Im sure the West has far better access to the units in Uganda, as example.

Despite this kind of talking, Azerbaijan is more in the side of Russia, Iran (Azerbaijan is also a shiite country) and Pakistan, than in the side of Turkey, in the refered to Syria, and in the refered to everything else.

And also Russia and Iran play this game. The Abrams in Iraq are not a secret for them.

Huh, Azerbaijan in the side of Iran???

If the same idea is in the minds of Russian diplomacy, then I would say a nice Goodbye to Russian strategy of the region.

Why would Azerbaijan be with Russia and Iran when;

-Karabakh is under control of Russian supported Armenians
-Iran is the only country which frees Armenia from being landlocked by Turkey and Azerbaijan in terms of supplies.
-Azerbaijanis are not secterian Shiite.
-Their Shiite belief is not the same with of Iranians.
-They speak the same language with Turks,because they are also Turkic.
-They have a project called TANAP with Turkey which is only one of great projects in the energy field.
-Turkey being a military technology supplier for Azerbaijan.
-Turkey and Azerbaijan have a saying "One nation,two states"

Even Iran does not see Azerbaijan as a sovereign entity and even claim Azerbaijan as a part of Iran,at least by heart.

Turkey is not a sectarian country,neither is Azerbaijan....

calm wrote:

Safe to say Jaish Al-Mujahideen has been wiped out by Nusra. Nusra won't stop there.

https://twitter.com/IzatCharkatli/status/824018076148572160

REBEL CIVIL WAR IN IDLIB: JABHAT FATAH AL-SHAM DEFEATED ONE OF BIGGEST ‘REBEL FACTIONS’ IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS

https://southfront.org/rebel-civil-war-jabhat-fatah-al-sham-defeated-one-of-biggest-rebel-factions-in-less-than-24-hours/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The Jaish al-Mujahideen militant group became the first major casualty of the so-called “rebel civil war” in the Syrian province of Idlib.

On January 24 Jabhat Fatah al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) launched a military operation against Jaish al-Mujahideen.

In less than 24 hours, Jabhat Fatah al-Sham units seized Jaish al-Mujahideen’s local HQ in Sarmada, including arms and ammunition depots in Idlib and the group’s HQs in Anadan and Atarib in western Aleppo.

According to local sources, in many cases Jaish al-Mujahideen militants just run away from Jabhat Fatah al-Sham. As result of the clashes, Jaish al-Mujahideen was defated and the vestiges of the group allegedly joined Ahrar al-Sham.

Before the conflict, Jaish al-Mujahideen’s manpower was estimated as 8,000 fighters.

Jaish al-Mujahideen was CIA-backed salafist group, described by the mainstream media as a “moderate rebel group.” Largest former component of Jaish al-Mujahideen was Nour al-Din al-Zenki which supports Jabhat Fatah al-Sham in the ongoing rebel civil war in Idlib.

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:Huh, Azerbaijan in the side of Iran???

If the same idea is in the minds of Russian diplomacy, then I would say a nice Goodbye to Russian strategy of the region.

Why would Azerbaijan be with Russia and Iran when;

-Karabakh is under control of Russian supported Armenians
-Iran is the only country which frees Armenia from being landlocked by Turkey and Azerbaijan in terms of supplies.
-Azerbaijanis are not secterian Shiite.
-Their Shiite belief is not the same with of Iranians.
-They speak the same language with Turks,because they are also Turkic.
-They have a project called TANAP with Turkey which is only one of great projects in the energy field.
-Turkey being a military technology supplier for Azerbaijan.
-Turkey and Azerbaijan have a saying "One nation,two states"

Even Iran does not see Azerbaijan as a sovereign entity and even claim Azerbaijan as a part of Iran,at least by heart.

Turkey is not a sectarian country,neither is Azerbaijan....

I'm not going to delve into it, just indicating that the one that you quote is a lunatic with his own view.

This doesn't mean I approve your point, nor reject it, just a reminder not to waste your time with that poster.

calm wrote:
In less than 24 hours, Jabhat Fatah al-Sham units seized Jaish al-Mujahideen’s local HQ in Sarmada, including arms and ammunition depots in Idlib and the group’s HQs in Anadan and Atarib in western Aleppo.

According to local sources, in many cases Jaish al-Mujahideen militants just run away from Jabhat Fatah al-Sham.  As result of the clashes, Jaish al-Mujahideen was defated and the vestiges of the group allegedly joined Ahrar al-Sham.

Jaish al-Mujahideen was CIA-backed salafist group, described by the mainstream media as a “moderate rebel group.” Largest former component of Jaish al-Mujahideen was Nour al-Din al-Zenki which supports Jabhat Fatah al-Sham in the ongoing rebel civil war in Idlib.

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Nice resupply for Nusra of CIA supplied stuff.

JohninMK wrote:

calm wrote:
In less than 24 hours, Jabhat Fatah al-Sham units seized Jaish al-Mujahideen’s local HQ in Sarmada, including arms and ammunition depots in Idlib and the group’s HQs in Anadan and Atarib in western Aleppo.

According to local sources, in many cases Jaish al-Mujahideen militants just run away from Jabhat Fatah al-Sham.  As result of the clashes, Jaish al-Mujahideen was defated and the vestiges of the group allegedly joined Ahrar al-Sham.

Jaish al-Mujahideen was CIA-backed salafist group, described by the mainstream media as a “moderate rebel group.” Largest former component of Jaish al-Mujahideen was Nour al-Din al-Zenki which supports Jabhat Fatah al-Sham in the ongoing rebel civil war in Idlib.

Nice resupply for Nusra of CIA supplied stuff.[/quote]

So Turkey-Jihadis just pulled a heist on USA-Jihadis? Dayuuuum son!

Isis has hit TSK once more.

One Leopard 2 (rack shot), and two APC's.

Looks like Metis was used.

Saddam, why no ATGM's son?

JFS fighters show off 3-min video of conquered #Sukour HQ, allegedly Sukour's leader Abu Issa's, in Jabal-al-Zawiyah.

https://twitter.com/Dalatrm/status/824320466546524162

JFS has started assaulting the Idlib Central prison

Reports that 70+ pro-#Assad & #ISIS prisoners have escaped from #Idlib prison during #JFS’s ongoing attack there:
JFS statement on #Idlib's Central Prison (seized): Suqur Al-Sham fighters were allowed to leave & prison will be led by Jaish Fateh forces.

KoTeMoRe wrote:Isis has hit TSK once more.

One Leopard 2 (rack shot), and two APC's.

Looks like Metis was used.

Saddam, why no ATGM's son?

Any tips for recognizing ATGM types in-flight, e.g. exhaust color, smoke type etc? I don't know if anyone has got a handy resource lying around on HDD or browser.
Thanks in advance.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:Huh, Azerbaijan in the side of Iran???

If the same idea is in the minds of Russian diplomacy, then I would say a nice Goodbye to Russian strategy of the region.

Why would Azerbaijan be with Russia and Iran when;

-Karabakh is under control of Russian supported Armenians
-Iran is the only country which frees Armenia from being landlocked by Turkey and Azerbaijan in terms of supplies.
-Azerbaijanis are not secterian Shiite.
-Their Shiite belief is not the same with of Iranians.
-They speak the same language with Turks,because they are also Turkic.
-They have a project called TANAP with Turkey which is only one of great projects in the energy field.
-Turkey being a military technology supplier for Azerbaijan.
-Turkey and Azerbaijan have a saying "One nation,two states"

Even Iran does not see Azerbaijan as a sovereign entity and even claim Azerbaijan as a part of Iran,at least by heart.

Turkey is not a sectarian country,neither is Azerbaijan....

I'm not going to delve into it, just indicating that the one that you quote is a lunatic with his own view.

This doesn't mean I approve your point, nor reject it, just a reminder not to waste your time with that poster.

Never bored of looking as idiot as you are, KoSHeRMoRe )

OminousSpudd wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Isis has hit TSK once more.

One Leopard 2 (rack shot), and two APC's.

Looks like Metis was used.

Saddam, why no ATGM's son?

Any tips for recognizing ATGM types in-flight, e.g. exhaust color, smoke type etc? I don't know if anyone has got a handy resource lying around on HDD or browser.
Thanks in advance.

On video:

Soviet ATGM's:

Maluytka: Hot launch, Slow missile, huge rotation, big dead zone (missile jumps before aligning with sight), bright white rear beacon.



Fagot: Cold Launch (gas generator), Huge screech, reduced rotation but higher revolution of the missile, black smoke, bright red beacon (can be bright white DPRK missiles).



Konkurs: almost identical to fagot except for casing of missile, earlier variants had the old style gas generator (screech).



Konkurs M: Biggest differences are no more screech but a "swoosh", black smoke, even faster and bigger warhead, red bright beacon (can be bright white on Iranian Tosan and DPRK Bulsae 2/3).

See upper video for two shots of K-M.


Metis/Metis M/M1: Cold launch, swoosh, fast missile, very big revolution and rotation, sparkle on the real of missile, white beacon, reduced range, extremely portable.
Kornet






Kornet/Kornet-E: Same launch procedure as Metis, huge cold kick, extremely maneuverable because of non solid guidance (laser), two exhausts visible on high definition while steering, some missiles have "dirty booster" (mostly for Kornet-E).

Cheers KoTeMoRe, I really appreciate the effort mate.

‘Trump didn’t consult Moscow on #Syria safe zone plan, should consider all consequences’ – Kremlin
https://www.rt.com/news/375169-syria-safe-zones-reaction/

Its a shame there are no legitimate air targets over syria so russia can expend its crappy old 80s r-27s like they are with their stocks of dumb bombs.

calm wrote:‘Trump didn’t consult Moscow on #Syria safe zone plan, should consider all consequences’ – Kremlin
https://www.rt.com/news/375169-syria-safe-zones-reaction/

Safe zones...where?

KoTeMoRe wrote:

calm wrote:‘Trump didn’t consult Moscow on #Syria safe zone plan, should consider all consequences’ – Kremlin
https://www.rt.com/news/375169-syria-safe-zones-reaction/

Safe zones...where?

Who knows...

Trump: 'We'll Build Safe Zones in Syria' With Money from Gulf States
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/trump-well-build-safe-zones-syria-money-gulf-states

"When I look at what's going on in Syria, it's so sad. It's so sad. And we've got to help people.

"And we have the Gulf States. They have nothing but money. We don't have money. We owe $20 trillion. I will get the Gulf States to give us lots of money, and we'll build and help build safe zones in Syria, so people can have a chance. So they can have a chance."

calm wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

calm wrote:‘Trump didn’t consult Moscow on #Syria safe zone plan, should consider all consequences’ – Kremlin
https://www.rt.com/news/375169-syria-safe-zones-reaction/

Safe zones...where?

Who knows...

Trump: 'We'll Build Safe Zones in Syria' With Money from Gulf States
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/trump-well-build-safe-zones-syria-money-gulf-states

"When I look at what's going on in Syria, it's so sad. It's so sad. And we've got to help people.

"And we have the Gulf States. They have nothing but money. We don't have money. We owe $20 trillion. I will get the Gulf States to give us lots of money, and we'll build and help build safe zones in Syria, so people can have a chance. So they can have a chance."

the guy is a maniac ... he just opens his mouth and all manner of nonsense comes out

calm wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

calm wrote:‘Trump didn’t consult Moscow on #Syria safe zone plan, should consider all consequences’ – Kremlin
https://www.rt.com/news/375169-syria-safe-zones-reaction/

Safe zones...where?

Who knows...

Trump: 'We'll Build Safe Zones in Syria' With Money from Gulf States
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/trump-well-build-safe-zones-syria-money-gulf-states

"When I look at what's going on in Syria, it's so sad. It's so sad. And we've got to help people.

"And we have the Gulf States. They have nothing but money. We don't have money. We owe $20 trillion. I will get the Gulf States to give us lots of money, and we'll build and help build safe zones in Syria, so people can have a chance. So they can have a chance."

Safe zones in KSA? Please God make this happen. Jesus Donnie is really becoming better than SNL outright.

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It sounds like we'll see US "extended safe zones" in Mexico...and maybe a wall after that...#MoneyTroubles
https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status/824678619247153153

calm wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

calm wrote:‘Trump didn’t consult Moscow on #Syria safe zone plan, should consider all consequences’ – Kremlin
https://www.rt.com/news/375169-syria-safe-zones-reaction/

Safe zones...where?

Who knows...

Trump: 'We'll Build Safe Zones in Syria' With Money from Gulf States
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/trump-well-build-safe-zones-syria-money-gulf-states

"When I look at what's going on in Syria, it's so sad. It's so sad. And we've got to help people.

"And we have the Gulf States. They have nothing but money. We don't have money. We owe $20 trillion. I will get the Gulf States to give us lots of money, and we'll build and help build safe zones in Syria, so people can have a chance. So they can have a chance."

I think he mean safe zones in SDF controlled territory and also zones under control of syrian forces with Russia overwatching. The first intention for "Operation Euphrat Shield" was to have safe zones for civilians, ok in first line is to kick kurdish asses! Trump is absolutely right with gulf states, the basterds are only sending weapons in and are supporting IS, but they do really nothing for the civilians!

Problem of trump is, his statements are never clear In the end...no one knows what he really means now.

Pres. Trump says he'll "absolutely do safe zones in Syria" - areas that would need to be established by US military.

https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/824701121339985920


Trump says he’ll order ‘safe zones’ for Syria, regrets not ‘taking’ oil out of Iraq
https://www.rt.com/news/375135-trump-syria-zones-iraq-oil/

US miitary?

Godric wrote:......................

"And we have the Gulf States. They have nothing but money. We don't have money. We owe $20 trillion. I will get the Gulf States to give us lots of money, and we'll build and help build safe zones in Syria, so people can have a chance. So they can have a chance."

the guy is a maniac ... he just opens his mouth and all manner of nonsense comes out

You kidding right? This is brilliant idea. KSA pays to get themselves screwed. Win win.

PapaDragon wrote:

Godric wrote:......................

"And we have the Gulf States. They have nothing but money. We don't have money. We owe $20 trillion. I will get the Gulf States to give us lots of money, and we'll build and help build safe zones in Syria, so people can have a chance. So they can have a chance."

the guy is a maniac ... he just opens his mouth and all manner of nonsense comes out

You kidding right? This is brilliant idea. KSA pays to get themselves screwed. Win win.

Godric is right. "Brilliant" wishful thinking.