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    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:25 am

    SV literally means Sniper Rifle, so SV-98 and SV-99 and SVD pretty much mean Sniper Rifle model 1998, Sniper Rifle model 1999, and Sniper Rifle Dragunov.

    SVD-338 would be Sniper Rifle Dragunov in 338 calibre.

    Most sniper rifles come with suppressors as an option as it reduces firing signature (visual and audio) and makes the rifle less exciting to fire (exciting in a negative sense).

    With long range rifles the suppressor reduces noise as the bullet is generally supersonic and will make a noise on firing.
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    Post  par far on Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:51 pm

    GarryB wrote:SV literally means Sniper Rifle, so SV-98 and SV-99 and SVD pretty much mean Sniper Rifle model 1998, Sniper Rifle model 1999, and Sniper Rifle Dragunov.

    SVD-338 would be Sniper Rifle Dragunov in 338 calibre.

    Most sniper rifles come with suppressors as an option as it reduces firing signature (visual and audio) and makes the rifle less exciting to fire (exciting in a negative sense).

    With long range rifles the suppressor reduces noise as the bullet is generally supersonic and will make a noise on firing.



    Thanks again for the great information GarryB. The American do a very good job of marketing their Sniper Rifles and sometime over hyping them. I searched Russian Sniper rifles and I cannot find any websites that go into specifics about the sniper rifles. I will post a website on American Sniper rifle company and you can see close up pictures and specifics(mostly for marketing purposes). why don't the Russians do this Something like this?

    http://www.mcmillanfirearms.com/mcmillan-rifles/

    https://www.barrett.net/firearms/model82a1





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    Post  Werewolf on Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:46 pm

    par far wrote:
    GarryB wrote:SV literally means Sniper Rifle, so SV-98 and SV-99 and SVD pretty much mean Sniper Rifle model 1998, Sniper Rifle model 1999, and Sniper Rifle Dragunov.

    SVD-338 would be Sniper Rifle Dragunov in 338 calibre.

    Most sniper rifles come with suppressors as an option as it reduces firing signature (visual and audio) and makes the rifle less exciting to fire (exciting in a negative sense).

    With long range rifles the suppressor reduces noise as the bullet is generally supersonic and will make a noise on firing.



    Thanks again for the great information GarryB. The American do a very good job of marketing their Sniper Rifles and sometime over hyping them. I searched Russian Sniper rifles and I cannot find any websites that go into specifics about the sniper rifles. I will post a website on American Sniper rifle company and you can see close up pictures and specifics(mostly for marketing purposes). why don't the Russians do this Something like this?

    http://www.mcmillanfirearms.com/mcmillan-rifles/

    https://www.barrett.net/firearms/model82a1

    Try this one little "wiki" for some rifles including sniper rifles from different countries.

    http://world.guns.ru/
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:06 pm

    In urban warfare soviet and russian snipers are the absolute best. Ultra long range work with 12,7-14,5mm rifles is still a novel discipline in the russian military.

    Well, at least they have kord whose advertised feature is effective long range sniper suppression.

    Any news on 14,5mm rifles yet?
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:35 am

    Any news on 14,5mm rifles yet?

    None that I have heard, though the critical thing will be the right ammo being produced to make it effective.
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    Post  par far on Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:04 pm

    What is the name of the Sniper rifle around 1:18

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xacu10_russian-sniper-rifles-take-aim-at-u_news



    This is the best sniper rifles in the world, how does Russian Sniper compare to them?


    http://www.gundigest.com/tactical-gear/15-state-of-the-art-sniper-rifles
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    Post  Werewolf on Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:44 pm

    par far wrote:What is the name of the Sniper rifle around 1:18

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xacu10_russian-sniper-rifles-take-aim-at-u_news

    That is the Lobaev SVL, the video already says it.

    http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/rus/lobaevsvl-e.html
    It is .408 Chey-tac but also available in other calibres.
    This sniper rifle is world champion and won several championships.

    par far wrote:
    This is the best sniper rifles in the world, how does Russian Sniper compare to them?


    http://www.gundigest.com/tactical-gear/15-state-of-the-art-sniper-rifles

    And how is this the best sniper rifle that performce worse against other sniper rifles with bigger calibre and therefore further ranges and more power?
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    Post  par far on Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:52 pm

    I know this article is from 2010 but is this sniper manufacturer back in Russia or not? I saw a video the one in this thread showing his rifles and saying that they were Russian made.

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/news/article/weapons-maker-forced-to-export-his-success/456741.html

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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:20 pm

    Moscow Times = Non russian tabloid and russophobic.
    You will get better information by voodoo bone throwing than by this shit western tabloid.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:35 pm

    Ah, almost forgot about that maker. Nah, apparently his rifles were overpriced garbage. Orsis is a realitively new company in Russia with its Orsis T5000 rifle and they seem to be doing well.
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    Post  par far on Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:27 pm

    I thought moscow times was Russian? Guess I was wrong. What about the video in this thread that's says Russian sniper takes aim at America, is that Russian?
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    Post  kvs on Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:30 pm

    par far wrote:I thought moscow times was Russian? Guess I was wrong. What about the video in this thread that's says Russian sniper takes aim at America, is that Russian?

    The Moscow Times and its sister paper the St. Petersburg Times are owned by a Finnish company. Check out the foaming at the mouth
    anti-Russian hate propaganda in the Finnish press. The Moscow Times is a Trojan horse operation designed to destabilize Russia by
    spreading lies. The good thing is that the circulation of this 5th column rag is very small.
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    Post  Regular on Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:41 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Ah, almost forgot about that maker. Nah, apparently his rifles were overpriced garbage. Orsis is a realitively new company in Russia with its Orsis T5000 rifle and they seem to be doing well.
    Never heard about them being garbage. They were expensive and they couln't produce them as fast.
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    Post  par far on Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:37 am

    I don't think that those sniper rifles were overpriced garbage sephering, those rifles were after all protecting high level Russian politicians and the president.
    I want to know, what other sniper rifles the orsis company makes besides orsis t 5000? And how accurate is the orsis t5000? The sniper rifles that maker was making was 0.2 MOA.
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    Post  par far on Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:39 am

    If Moscow times and St. Petersburg Anti-Russian, then why don't the government of Russia shut them down.
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    Post  par far on Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:42 am

    I don't think that those sniper rifles were overpriced garbage sephering, those rifles were after all protecting high level Russian politicians and the president.




    Sorry sepheronx, I mispelled your name.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:42 am

    Russian sniper takes aim at America, is that Russian?

    Sounds to me like they meant to say Russian sniper rifle takes aim at American arms market... ie russian rifle aimed/designed for, US civilian arms market.

    Ie they don't want to shoot americans... they do enough of that themselves... they want to sell the rifle to americans.

    Never heard about them being garbage. They were expensive and they couln't produce them as fast.

    Agree... they were reportedly very good, but not so good as to justify the very high price.

    If Moscow times and St. Petersburg Anti-Russian, then why don't the government of Russia shut them down.

    The government shutting down newspapers because they are anti government? You do know communism ended in Russia in the early 1990s. On what grounds would they shut them down?

    Are you believing the lies of the west?
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    Post  George1 on Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:08 am

    VSS Vintorez sniper rifle

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    Post  George1 on Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:01 pm

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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:08 pm

    par far wrote:If Moscow times and St. Petersburg Anti-Russian, then why don't the government of Russia shut them down.


    Because contrary to what ignorants like TR1 says ,there is freedom of press in Russia ..
    And freedom of expression is respected.. albeit violence ,extremism and gay bullshit propaganda on public
    and child porn is censored however for obvious reasons..

    Freedom of expression is a necessary ,and it do more harm not having it ,than having it. The last thing
    people wants in a government that fully control every word and opinion that is told in the media.. The government
    can use their own media to counter any argument or lie being told about them. So is not that bad.. as long the government is aware that needs to counter any lie being told against them.

    In TR1 lovely Ukraine ,which USA sponsor and he consider "the pillar of freedom" "democracy "and "modern society", Any Russian media is banned for being Russian. and political parties that shows any positive view of Russia banned. Pure Fascism Dictatorship Tyranny with complete censorship on the media is what happens there. In US there is freedom of press.. too.. but that will change.. lol   This is why Senators like Dianne Finstein is pushing for a law to
    bann any media that they consider as propaganda.. against them.. lol


    About your question about difference between Russian snipers and NATO snipers.. you need to see things from
    the point of view of Needs.  Russian army develop weapons according to their needs.. Since they are not in the business of assassinating Presidents or overthrowing governments ,they have no need for such special super long range sniper rifles.. Any NATO special force who dares to enter in Russia with a 3km range sniper rifle will be blow up in a thousand of pieces with artillery or with a rocket grenade with 5km range with laser optic.

    NATO long range sniper rifles are only good for special missions behind enemy lines.. but only in third world nations and in hollywood movies that there is not good security in undeveloped nations. like In africa or middle east. 3km  range sniper rifles are useless in a frontal war..because there artillery will be shelling your positions from 30km to 100km away. and this is not counting drones and airforce.war between NATO and US,, not even Assault rifles will be used..but heavy weapons. From very long ranges.. No sane sniper will remain on his position if notice a tank moving to its direction. Its anti personnel shells will wipe him.. even if he hide behind heavy rocks.  All said 3km range sniper rifles is a niche market.. for very limited operations..  This is why the regular armies don't use such weapons..there is very little use in real combat. in the time you kill one from a 3km distance.. you can kill 10 with a dragonuv from closer one.  Long range sniper rifles are only good special missions deep inside enemy territory ,but useless for a real war or against a country with strong security.. There will be no apaches helicopters like you see in movies to evacuate the special forces snipers firing behind enemy lines.

    IF the Russian army goes into a war with any NATO country and they depend on their snipers skills to win.. they are doing something really wrong. Same is true against ISIS.. if 50,000 terrorist somehow manage to being smuggled by Ukraine or georgia into Russia..lets say using an underground long tunnel across border, then Russia will not use snipers to slowly kill them one by one.. but Tanks and helicopters and airforce and level to the ground any building they hide.  killing Faster is better..For Hostage situations they also not needed either.. you don't fire from 3km in such events. but form a building next to the one the hostages are. I like the top snipers rifles with 3km-4km range ..they are cool in video games.. but in real world is very limited their use. Only in africa and middle east undeveloped nations for hit and run short missions. If you look at all those stories of NATO success using 3km range modern sniper rifle. it will be against Talibans or in IRAQ invasion or somalies in africa. All those rifles are cool.. but their use is very limited in the best case in a modern war. They are special forces weapons ,for behind enemy lines missions in underdeveloped countries. But also for sports they are popular. They could be used however in any nation for assassination missions of political leaders if you can get a fool to do the job..and do not mind him to be arrested later. This happened in Venezuela in a failed attempt to assasinate chavez.. Russian technology saved him.. because detected a lazer and the sniper was arrested. Very Happy   Such weapons to fire at 3km are not aim and shoot.. it requires some time for shooting at any target. Not many use in modern warfare.   If Russia ever needs to assassinate an enemy like an spy they simply can use radioactive poison ,so is more painful the death .   lol1



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    Post  flamming_python on Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:16 pm

    Unfortunately freedom of speech, democracy, right of assembly and similar terms have come to be synonymous with Western military invasion, manufacturing of revolutions and destabilization of countries, bullying and general meddling.
    As a result, a lot less people care about these things than before.
    Which is a shame. But that's just what happens when a group of nations package these terms and concepts into a ready-to-go ideology that they use to justify imperialism across the world and destroying anyone who disagrees with them.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:32 am

    Yes... the sermon sounds great, but the implementation ruins the promise... the west is even more self serving than the enemies it demonises...

    they didn't lift a finger to help Russia during the 1990s yet expect the Russian people to be grateful for giving them democracy. There was of course western investment, but most of it was self serving... making sure all those nuclear weapons were decommissioned and that the oil resources were accessible for their companies.

    Help with cheaper generic drugs? No... western drug companies need to make enormous profits.

    Help with illegal drug trafficing... No... anything that hurts russia is in the wests interests.

    The west has made itself its own victim and every time in the future when Russia could be useful... like with Assad, or fighting real international terrorists... the west will much more likely find Russian cooperation will be based on what is in it for them... how westernised can you get!

    I watched a talk show programme on RT and they basically decided that Russian/Soviet politics went from trusting the west and saying yes to everything with Gorby and Yeltsin, to Putin who started out a little like that but has become someone who actually thinks about what is best for Russia before saying yes or no. He has pretty much gone from being a liberal to a conservative.
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    Post  victor1985 on Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:05 pm

    i thinked to a form of sistem that could camouflage the hot burning gases from a machinegun or sniper rifles. is simple. we have a piece of steel whit separated cameras all around and holes where the gases go and burn
    and i thinked a grenade whit bullets
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:46 am

    - but the Russian government shouldn't have put him behind bars.

    The other option would be a suppressor for the muzzle and lots of decoys sending out fake muzzle flashes all over the place...
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    Post  par far on Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:53 am

    Can anyone give information about this rifle? How good is it? How accurate is it? What is the range of this sniper rifle?

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