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    Mi-28N Havoc: News

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    Post  max steel Sun May 22, 2016 1:46 am

    Russia’s Mi-28 Attack Helicopter to Get Laser Missile Defense Gear

    Russia’s Mi-28 Night Hunter attack helicopters will soon be equipped with an advanced on-board laser system to defend against MANPAD missiles and air-to-air missiles, a senior adviser to the deputy head of the Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern (KRET), told RIA Novosti.

    KRET had earlier announced that it was going to equip Russia’s MiG-35 multirole fighter jets with the latest platform-less inertial navigation system.
    The LINS-100RS and BINS-SP2 inertial systems are designed to determine the location of the object, complex processing and delivering navigation and flight information.They are also able to determine the coordinates and parameters of an object in the autonomous mode and in the absence of terrestrial, marine or space signals.


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    Post  NEURONAV Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:28 pm

    New MI-28UB arrive in Iraq , the commander of army aviation apperciate it's weapon load and its role in recent falluja war
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNYCoBT9-oM
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    Post  Viktor Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:17 pm

    New improved Mi-28MN comming online soon thumbsup

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1991614.html
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    Post  franco Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:30 pm

    MOSCOW, July 1 -. RIA Novosti Deliveries of the newest attack helicopter Mi-28nm in the Russian army will begin in the near future, its cruising speed in comparison with the previous modification will be increased by 13% due to new blades, the appeal says managing director of the company "Rostvertol" Peter Motrenko, published in the company's annual report for 2015.

    "In the near future will begin deliveries of the Russian Defense Ministry powerful attack helicopters Mi-28nm -. A fundamentally new car with improved tactical and technical, flight and combat characteristics In 2015 PJSC" Rostvertol "prototype of the helicopter, which differs from the basic model life. of state tests of the prototype of the Mi-28nm - 2016 ", - stated in the document, a copy of which is at the disposal of RIA Novosti.

    According Motrenko, Mi-28nm will receive a brand new radar that will provide helicopter-round visibility as well as a new control system. In addition to the upgraded "Night Hunter" is also creating new rotor blades, which will increase the cruising speed of the helicopter by 13%, and the maximum, which now amounts to 340 kilometers per hour - 10 percent.
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    Post  archangelski Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:39 pm

    From an other website :

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    Post  zg18 Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:49 pm

    archangelski wrote:From an other website :

    Mi-28N Havoc: News - Page 8 8X6Qtfo

    Outer differences between N & NM

    Mi-28N Havoc: News - Page 8 CnvNgMwWgAA_nCq
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    Post  archangelski Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:06 pm

    zg18 wrote:

    Outer differences between N & NM


    Strangely labelled as Mi-28UB on pictures of RussianPlanes.net and NM just after...
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    Post  GarryB Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:42 am

    If that is the NM then I for one find it a little disappointing.

    I was hoping for a more greatly modified gun system with internal ammo storage of much larger capacity in a lower drag arrangement.

    The removal of the nose thimble guidance system for the ATAKA/Shturm system seems to be the main external difference resulting in a slightly better forward view for the gunner...
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    Post  Zivo Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:14 am

    lol, they managed to make the Mi-28 even uglier. cheers
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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:09 am

    Zivo wrote:lol, they managed to make the Mi-28 even uglier. cheers

    Ugliness is a desirable quality for attack choppers. They should look mean, nasty, threatening and in-yer-face. Mi-28 screams at the observer "I deliver what the Apache only promises..." russia
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    Post  medo Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:54 am

    I think Mi-28NM Will also get those pods on the ends of the wings with chaff and flares and LWR detectors and most probably with MAWS as well.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:49 pm

    AFAIK the Mi28N is a modified aircraft of the 1980s.

    I hope the Mi-28M has all the electronics and sensors and systems upgraded to current, but as I said a more aerodynamic ammo storage option for the main gun would have been nice IMHO.

    Even a change in calibre to the twin 23mm cannon of the new Hinds with smaller more compact ammo with lower recoil could have been a better option in my opinion... though information about how the gun is performing in Syria and Iraq would be useful to consider this option.
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    Post  Werewolf Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:59 pm

    The tailboom and the new mounting plattform is probably already used for a 3 ball DIRCM version like for the Hind, maybe i am wrong but it is a strange location for any sensor and the size of it would suggest something differet than radio equipment.

    The problem the Mi-28 has is indeed the mounting of the gun aswell the low ammunition storage. The gun itself is highly precise but the mounting and the recoil of 40-50kN (depending on cadency) is enormous and destroys any accurate fire to offbore unlike on Kamov setup. Meaning either they figure out simple solution to solve the storage problem which is high air drag aswell low capacity and the horrible inaccuracy in far offbore engagements or they have in most of the cases dead weight as weapon that can only be effective in head on engagements. Such engagements and scenarios are always prefered but not always the best solution for a specific job and it is not a co-axial helicopter that can turn its entire body while flying in a different direction.
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    Post  hoom Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:53 am

    lol, they managed to make the Mi-28 even uglier. cheers
    As ugly as the nose thimble was, it looks really weird without it Neutral
    Mi-28 is one of those things so ugly it becomes kinda beautiful.
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    Post  Project Canada Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:19 am


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    actually, i find the new look impressive
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    Post  George1 Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:58 am

    Night Hunter helicopter’s deliveries to troops to begin no later than 2018 — commander

    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/defense/892395
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:48 am

    Zivo wrote:lol, they managed to make the Mi-28 even uglier. cheers

    Ugly? It looks beautiful in this photo:

    Mi-28N Havoc: News - Page 8 72472d1469978832-img_7750-11-5

    ...I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but I'm sure going to miss the mickey mouse nose! Sad
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:04 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Zivo wrote:lol, they managed to make the Mi-28 even uglier. cheers

    Ugly? It looks beautiful in this photo:

    Mi-28N Havoc: News - Page 8 72472d1469978832-img_7750-11-5

    ...I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but I'm sure going to miss the mickey mouse nose! Sad

    thats a fine look chopper.

    that said, looks don't matter rather have an ugly chopper good at killing then a nice looking one bad at it.
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    Post  DerWolf Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:22 pm

    Is this MI-28U the trainer version, or MI-28 NM ?
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    Post  franco Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:35 pm

    DerWolf wrote:Is this MI-28U the trainer version, or MI-28 NM ?

    Mi-28U is the trainer version with combat capabilities (24 ordered). The only order for Mi-28NM so far was one for testing.
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    Post  Cyrus the great Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:35 pm

    GarryB wrote:I quite like the South African Helo, but those claims are a little weird.

    First of all hover out of ground effect is not really of great importance... if you are flying at 5km altitude then a MiG-29 from 60km away will see you and shoot you down and there is very little you could do in return from that altitude.

    From what I can tell the Rooivalk has a top speed of about 309km/h... both the Hokum and Havoc are faster and rather better armed with 30mm cannon and the new Hermes missiles offering 20km range.

    I also found some of the claims hard to believe. The claim that it has the best power to weight ratio sounds like absolute bollocks to me. Being able to perform over 5km at altitude is quite a good ability to have in mountainous areas, and since a military would only deploy helicopters after air superiority has been gained and established, enemy jets shouldn't really be a factor. Please correct me if I'm wrong; I've read that coaxial rotors increase lift and so I assume that the ka-52 would be able to have an "out-of-ground effect hover ceiling exceeding that of the Rooivalk if its weight was reduced by two [2] tons (within the weight range of the Rooivalk) using new materials that are also very cheap. The aforementioned light (and crucially also cheap) materials should allow Kamov to drastically reduce the weight of the Ka-52 while maintaining its already excellent protection and increasing other performance to levels considerably beyond that of the Rooivalk or any other contemporary attack helicopter in every performance criteria.
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    Post  Project Canada Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:45 pm



    Began flight tests of the upgraded "Night Hunter"

    As part of the modernization of the helicopter got a new sighting and flight-navigation system, equipped with computing facilities, and a new cockpit



    Began flight tests of the upgraded "Night Hunter"
    As part of the modernization of the helicopter got a new sighting and flight-navigation system, equipped with computing facilities, and a new cockpit
    September 9, 2016, 7:06

    Upgraded helicopter "Night Hunter" started the flight-test program. On Friday TASS reported the press service of the holding company "Russian Helicopters".

    "On the flight test complex of the Moscow Helicopter Plant Mil began flight testing a prototype of the modernized version of the combat helicopter Mi-28 product is" 296 ", - said in a statement.

    As part of the modernization of the helicopter got a new sighting and flight-navigation system, equipped with computing facilities. In addition, the modernization undergone cabin crew commander and pilot-operator will now receive information about the environment and the work of all vehicle systems to a greater extent and in a more accessible form.

    "When you create a helicopter Mi-28 product is" 296 "has been the experience of the development of training and combat Mi-28UB: in the front cabin of the helicopter Mi-28, a product" 296 "is set to the second set of controls The helicopter is equipped with advanced nadvtulochnoy radar has enhanced capabilities. the use of precision weapons, including homing missiles, "- noted in the holding.

    The armament of the modernized Mi-28N includes guided and unguided rocket armament, bomb weapons, as well as a movable gun mount with a gun caliber 30 mm. The press service also stressed that the cabin crew reliable armored, that provides protection against armor-piercing bullets and projectiles caliber 20 mm.

    Helicopter rotor blades are made of composite materials. As noted in the holding, it allows you to safely complete the flight when hit by 20-30 mm caliber ammunition, and fuel system design eliminates explosion or ignition of fuel.

    Earlier, Deputy Director Alexander geneneralnogo Shcherbinin Holding said that the tests of the modernized Mi-28N will be completed in 2017.

    https://defence.ru/military_aviation/nachalis-letnie-ispitaniya-modernizirovannogo-nochnogo-okhotnika/
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    Post  A1RMAN Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:00 pm

    Mi-28NM is gonna get modernized anti-tank missiles.

    They are working on improving Ataka and Khrizantema rockets. Ataka rockets will have 8km range instead of 6km.

    https://lenta.ru/news/2016/10/21/mi28nm/
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:02 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Hey see we have these Vihr missiles, they're supersonic, polyvalent and have extended range!

    Nope we're going to modernize our rust pipes, because we can.
    Yes because its cheap and cost effective.

    Just look what the US, and probably everyone else as well, will be doing given they are gearing up to 20k pa. OK the price is crazy (but BAE pays British Corporation Tax Very Happy ) but its a very good concept.

    BAE Systems has been awarded a three-year contract from the US Navy worth up to $600 million to support deliveries of its Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System (APKWS).

    This is the first indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity (IDIQ) contract for the precision-guided weapon system, and will support a ramp-up of deliveries from 1,500-2,000 units at the current rate to 5,000 in the first year of the new arrangement.

    APKWS is a laser-guidance kit that converts 2.75in-diameter (70mm) rockets into precision-guided weapons. Some 7,000 units have been delivered to date, the company says, and rounds will be provided to all US services through the new deal with the USN.


    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/bae-to-up-the-pace-on-apkws-production-430531/
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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:38 am

    is this really the small compartment that can hold 3 men? if so thats pretty small and cramped. I know its not really intended for transporting annyone but more for rescue operations to which i am sure the person being rescued would be more than grateful even in cramped conditions.

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