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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:45 am

    He's not going anywhere, he's just trying to keep a certain distance from Russia, cause he knows if he integrates too close to Russia somebody will have him for breakfast
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    Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:24 am

    Cyberspec wrote:He's not going anywhere, he's just trying to keep a certain distance from Russia, cause he knows if he integrates too close to Russia somebody will have him for breakfast

    Lukashenko should know better though. Due to the very delicate and strategic nature of this situation, instead he prefers to pour accelerate on a open flame. Because of the strategic nature of these trucks, Russia can't rely on MZKT unless there's a "guarantee" that they'll remain a reliable supplier in any circumstance, aka majority ownership in MZKT retained in Russia. Ukraine is a perfect example of how just one color revolution could cause so much havoc in military related matters, and one color revolution is all that it takes to cripple the parts and spares supply of all the MZKT trucks (for Topol-M, RS-24, Iskander-M, etc.) in Russian service. A real strategic blow, but hopefully Hookahshenko get's the 'message'.

    Anyway more information on "Platform-O":

    OCD "Platform-O":
    platform load capacity of 85 tons of 1616;
    Platform 12x12 carrying capacity of 50 tons,
    truck tractor 8x8 for towing trailer systems weighing 90-165 tons,
    ballast 8x8 tractor for towing trailer systems weighing up to 75 tons.

    http://twower.livejournal.com/1802827.html
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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:26 am

    Some details about the new chassis with an armored cab of KAMAZ-53958 "Tornado"



    Published in the magazine "Auto Review" article, "the armored bay" its author, Fyodor Lapshin, raises a number of question after examining the new truck with bronekabinoy KAMAZ-53958 (6560M) «Tornado» 8x8. chassis capacity of 25 tons, the cabin is unified with "Typhoon-K": it cabover, fully armored and protected, according to representatives of KAMAZ, GOST, class 6a (from armor-piercing incendiary bullet B-32 sniper rifle SVD).

    According to unofficial information, on the new chassis will be based perspective ZRPK "Carapace-CM", the beginning of his deliveries are expected in 2017.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1738398.html


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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  eehnie on Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:08 pm

    I see the new armoured truck very interesting.

    Just thinking about MRLS, Surface-Surface or Surface-Air systems using this philosophy of armoured trucks (trucks with armoured cabins).


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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:27 pm

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    Platform-O? If so I can see Lukashenko taking his undergarments to the laundromat... lol1
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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:56 pm


    One more for Luka Razz
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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:51 pm

    Russian rover "Burlak"

    Russian universal vehicle "Burlak" passed the first test drive on the ice of the Kara Sea and the Polar Urals. He spent eight crew members of a future trans-Arctic expedition automobile. They have overcome the almost 3 thousand. Km, the path starting in the Komi Republic on 19 March. Tests All-terrain amphibious "Burlak" had the purpose to check the car on six wheels under difficult conditions. "Burlak" has no analogues in the world. Sealed housing and propeller allow it to float and maneuver among the ice floes. Now the crew will begin preparations for the establishment of a world record - the North Pole on wheeled vehicles off-line in 2018. The car passed the five-meter snowdrifts, winter roads, mountainous terrain, snow, dirt road in the Arctic Circle. In general, the conclusion about the correctness of rover design, but revealed some shortcomings, which will be fixed. It is based on the design of the BTR-60, it weighs 4 tons, length of 6 meters 60 centimeters, a width of about 3 meters. The creator of all-terrain vehicle Alexey Makarov was inspired traveler Vasily Yelagin, who in 2009 first in the world reached the pole on wheeled vehicles "Emelya" . But then the return trip was by helicopter. Makarov plans to go all the way back and forth to the modern amphibious ATV "Burlak".



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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:59 pm

    On the state program of development of a new line of research on the chassis "Platform-O"







    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2016603.html


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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Aug 07, 2016 5:40 pm


    Ural 4320



    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/81314/
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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  eehnie on Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:42 pm

    Everytime Im more convinced that it would be very interesting to replace the tractor elements of the combat warfare by armoured tractor elements, according to the current standards of protection for the Russian armed forces.

    It would be very positive for Russia, if the following warfare (and also newer designs) would have in the short-mid term armoured tractor elements (tractor elements with armoured cabins):

    SS-29 (49)
    SS-27 (78)
    SS-25 (72)
    SS-26 (90)
    SS-21 (48)
    SS-1 Scud (??)
    SS-C-7 (??)
    SS-C-6 (128)
    SS-C-5 (12)
    SS-C-3 (16)
    SS-C-1B (28)
    Tornado MRLS (24)
    BM-30 (130)
    BM-27 (376)

    SA-21 (184)
    SA-10/12/20/23 (1010)
    SA-22 (72)
    SA-8 (252)

    A-222 (6)

    It would make them armoured warfare, increasing the protection of the crews, it would make them more standardized, because they can share tractor elements by weight cathegories, and it would increase the life of service of all this warfare.

    The retired unarmoured tractor elements would be usable for military land transport.

    My alone doubt would be the BM-21 (3147), which is of different weight cathegory than the rest. But just to see the Ural 4320 with armoured cabin makes it also likely.


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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:29 am

    Rare exhibit opening in Moscow Kubinka forum "Army 2016" - transport and cargo handling unit 3F30-9 of strategic missile complex 3K30 submarines "Bulava". Used tractor family KZKT-7428









    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2104279.html


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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  Militarov on Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:11 pm




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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:53 am

    Militarov wrote:



    Electric motors?
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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  kvs on Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:04 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
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    Electric motors?

    These trucks do not drive the wheels directly from the engine. They generate electricity which then drives electric motors that spin the wheels.
    This really is a superior concept since they can get gobs of torque and do not have to deal with drive shafts and various joints that can fail and
    wear out. The total weight of the truck is reduced as well.
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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:29 am

    kvs wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
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    Electric motors?

    These trucks do not drive the wheels directly from the engine.  They generate electricity which then drives electric motors that spin the wheels.
    This really is a superior concept since they can get gobs of torque and do not have to deal with drive shafts and various joints that can fail and
    wear out.   The total weight of the truck is reduced as well.  

    If thats the case, Lukashenko better sell MZKT at reasonable price before its too late!
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    Post  Militarov on Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:16 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
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    Electric motors?

    Diesel or some other type of engine produces electricity, then electricity is used to power motors housed near each wheel. This is more and more often used for machinery in mines, arctic etc.

    This of an example: http://1006626.en.makepolo.com/products/WTW-220E-Electric-Wheel-Mining-Dumper-p69120844/img.html
    Or this: http://www.directindustry.com/prod/caterpillar-global-mining/product-55229-916505.html

    It offers instant and constant torgue, less moving parts, all wheels drive no matter how shafts you have.



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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  Militarov on Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:20 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:



    Electric motors?

    These trucks do not drive the wheels directly from the engine.  They generate electricity which then drives electric motors that spin the wheels.
    This really is a superior concept since they can get gobs of torque and do not have to deal with drive shafts and various joints that can fail and
    wear out.   The total weight of the truck is reduced as well.  

    If thats the case, Lukashenko better sell MZKT at reasonable price before its too late!

    Well they have BelAZ that produces such vehicles just on bigger scale for industry, mining, earth moving, construction etc: http://www.belaz.by/en/press/news/2016/the_100th_chassis_of_dump_truc/

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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:38 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:



    Electric motors?

    These trucks do not drive the wheels directly from the engine.  They generate electricity which then drives electric motors that spin the wheels.
    This really is a superior concept since they can get gobs of torque and do not have to deal with drive shafts and various joints that can fail and
    wear out.   The total weight of the truck is reduced as well.  

    If thats the case, Lukashenko better sell MZKT at reasonable price before its too late!

    Well they have BelAZ that produces such vehicles just on bigger scale for industry, mining, earth moving, construction etc: http://www.belaz.by/en/press/news/2016/the_100th_chassis_of_dump_truc/


    The purpose of Platform-O is to put pressure on Lukashenko and MZKT. So many strategic systems use trucks from a foreign country (Belarus), it only takes one White (color) revolution to wreck havoc on Russian strategic mobility, but the punk ass Dupeshenko is totally incapable of seeing reason.
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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  eehnie on Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:42 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:



    Electric motors?

    These trucks do not drive the wheels directly from the engine.  They generate electricity which then drives electric motors that spin the wheels.
    This really is a superior concept since they can get gobs of torque and do not have to deal with drive shafts and various joints that can fail and
    wear out.   The total weight of the truck is reduced as well.  

    If thats the case, Lukashenko better sell MZKT at reasonable price before its too late!

    Well they have BelAZ that produces such vehicles just on bigger scale for industry, mining, earth moving, construction etc: http://www.belaz.by/en/press/news/2016/the_100th_chassis_of_dump_truc/

    The purpose of Platform-O is to put pressure on Lukashenko and MZKT. So many strategic systems use trucks from a foreign country (Belarus), it only takes one White (color) revolution to wreck havoc on Russian strategic mobility, but the punk ass Dupeshenko is totally incapable of seeing reason.

    Looking at this forum, surely Turkey is a better ally of Russia than Belarus. dunno
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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  Benya on Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:38 pm

    A railway unit of the Eastern Military District received some of this strange Ural truck


    Terrain buses arrived in chemical protection BBO

    In the Eastern Military District supplied the newest buses, SUVs.
    The first batch of vehicles acquired compound Railway Troops, located in the Amur region.
    As described in the headquarters of the BBO, buses PAF-5350.1-11-based army all-terrain vehicle "rail car" (Ural-4320) for up to 30 people: 28 in the van and two in the cockpit. The technique can be operated at temperatures ranging from -50 to +50 degrees Celsius.
    In addition, the buses are equipped with security system by means of chemical contamination.



    It is noted that the family car "rail car" are proven not only in the army. This technique is used both in the mountains and impassable bogs, and in the Arctic Circle in the permafrost.

    Source (in Russian, translated to english with Google Translator):  Arrow http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2016/11/blog-post_13.html
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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  franco on Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:27 pm

    ATV's being supplied to the military;


    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://topwar.ru/103864-armeyskiy-motovezdehod-am-1.html&usg=ALkJrhgqCLRZ0BziZGDbWfmtYvqhKM7w5w
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    Re: The Russian Military Automotive Fleet

    Post  Benya on Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:12 pm

    Interesting article. I decided to put it here since it is more related to the carrying vehicles of the systems rather than their missiles, radars etc.


    Truck tractors for S-400 and S-500 air defense missile system will powered by new diesel engines.

    The advanced truck tractors made by the Bryansk and Minsk Automobile Plants for the S-400 Triumph (NATO reporting name: SA-21 Growler) and future [/b] will be powered by diesel engines from the Tutayev Motor Plant (TMZ), according to the Izvestia daily.


    Mobile launcher unit (TEL Transporter Erector Launcher) of S-400 air defense missile battery.

    The engines burn any type of fuel, operate while fully submerged under water, start at -50°C and consume not more than 80 liters of fuel per 100 km. The engines from TMZ are superior to their Western analogs in terms of performance.

    TMZ Chief Designer Oleg Prokhorov told the Izvestia daily that the 8493.10-34 engine family with a power of 500 hp or more have passed all qualification tests in compliance with the Defense Ministry’s new standards, been recommended for full-rate production and equipped the chassis of the SAM systems developed by Almaz-Antei. The first 20 vehicles fitted the advanced engines shall be fielded in a few months.

    "The engines feature enhanced power and high torque, which allows them to equip all future tractors designed to carry up-to-date air defense and other missile systems," Prokhorov said. "At the request of the military, we have made them multifuel. The engines start up when fully submerged in water and operate without a hitch at [an ambient temperature of] -50°C owing to the sealed electrical starter."

    The characteristics of TMZ’s V-engines are quite ordinary: they are four-stroke, eight-cylinder and turbo-charged (the latter feature ramps up the combustion, which reduces fuel consumption and increases power). For this reason, the 500-hp engine uses not more than 82 liters of fuel per hour, which is not that much as far as military vehicles are concerned. The engines have excessive service lives covering the wheeled tractors’ warranty life - over 10 years.


    Future trucks for S-500 air defense missile battery.

    The principal characteristics of the engines are power and torque, the latter allowing a sharp increase in force when negotiating obstacles while towing a trailer. The fuel burn during this maneuver is important too. The nearest competition to the S-400’s Bryansk-made tractors is as follows. The US-made HEMTT (Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Truck) is powered by the Detroit Diesel 92T A-90 (8V92TA) eight-cylinder two-stroke turbocharged V-engine with the intermediate air-intake cooler. It has a power of 480 hp and a torque of 1,900 N.·m. The vehicle hauling the MIM-104 Patriot SAM system consumes 100 liter of fuel per 100 km, and the fuel consumption may increase to 150 liters during a climb.

    The MAN HX is powered by the D2066 six-cylinder in-line direct-injection 440-hp diesel engine with a maximum torque of 2,100 N.·m. Its fuel consumption stands at 90 liter per 100 km. It stems from its characteristics that the Russian engines surpass their Western rivals and use less fuel to boot. According to expert opinion, their fuel consumption varies little irrespective of the tractor going up or down the slope or driving off road or on a highway.

    Expert Ivan Konovalov believes that high mobility is a most important tactical capability of advanced vehicles. The BGM-109 Tomahawk long-range cruise missile was developed to take out low-mobility SAM systems sitting in their firing positions. The same goes for the most up-to-date S-400 and S-500 designed to defend stationary installations.

    "The S-25 [SA-1 Guild] and S-75 [SA-2 Guideline] systems providing air defense coverage for Moscow used to be moved about on a concrete road built around the city specifically for this purpose," Konovalov told the Izvestia. "These days, at the age of precision-guided weapons, cruise missiles and reconnaissance satellites, the advanced AD missile systems must possess enhanced mobility to dodge air strikes."

    All the more so that the present-day SAM systems are heavy and large and badly in need of highly effective tractors equipped by powerful diesel engines, according to the Izvestia daily.

    Source: Arrow http://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons_defence_industry_military_technology_uk/truck_tractors_for_s-400_and_s-500_air_defense_missile_system_will_powered_by_new_diesel_engines_tass_1001171.html
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    Post  Isos on Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:56 pm



    Nice idea !!

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