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    Re: UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:07 pm

    I don't follow, did just Indians pull out or is the whole thing cancelled?

    Would Russia proceed with the project solo? They do need this plane now with Ukraine out of the picture.

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    Re: UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft

    Post  wilhelm on Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:31 pm

    I also thought that.
    It seems, reading the article, India have not yet come fully on board, maybe something to do with the "modularity" of the engines.

    I think Russia will still go ahead. As PapaDragon says, there is a need to replace existing ageing platforms designed and built from the time of the Soviet Union and before Ukraine went all crazy.

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    Re: UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft

    Post  George1 on Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:50 pm

    If Il/HAL MTA is going to be abandoned then my opinion for a possible solution for RuAF tactictal transport to replace old An-12s could be an enlarged version of Il-112V


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    Re: UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:10 am

    TR1 on another forums stated that it is good that the project is frozen since Russia should concentrate on light and heavy transport for now. I tend to agree. But if this really is in demand, then I would say they can work it themselves and India can purchase it later if they so choose to.

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    Re: UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft

    Post  Book. on Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:16 am

    Russia 'freezes' India out of MTA project, to proceed alone as Il-214
    Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly | 12 January 2016

    http://www.janes.com/article/57169/russia-freezes-india-out-of-mta-project-to-proceed-alone-as-il-214

    Russia looks set to continue development of the Multirole Transport Aircraft (MTA) on its own after Ilyushin froze co-operation with India on the joint project, state media announced on 13 January.

    With the preliminary design of the twin turbofan tactical airlifter now all but finalised, United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) will likely continue with the detailed design phase of the Il-214, as it is known in Russia, through to production without Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), the TASS news agency quoted Ilyushin CEO Sergey Velmozhkin as saying.

    "It has been frozen as a joint Russian-Indian project," he said.

    While the report gave no particular reason for this development, it was reported in December 2015 that UAC and HAL were in disagreement over the type of powerplant to be fitted to the aircraft, with the former preferring the PD-14M - a modified version of the already in-service Aviadvigtel PS-90A-76 turbofan as fitted to the Il-76 'Candid' - and the latter wanting a completely clean-sheet engine with full authority digital engine control (FADEC).

    "The PS-90 does not have FADEC but the necessity of such a system was not there in the technical specifications initially," the president of UAC, Yury Slyusar, told the Indian Economic Times at the time. "It was added later. The technical requirement [for performance] is fully satisfied with the PS-90 engine.

    "So the official status is that we have finished the advanced preliminary design stage over a year ago [and] that has to be accepted by the Indian side. We hope they accept the design and move forward," he added.

    The Il-214 is expected to have a payload of between 15 and 20 tonnes and a range of 2,500 to 2,700 km, which will put it in the same class of airlifter as the Lockheed Martin C-130 Hercules (22 tonnes) and the Embraer KC-390 (23 tonnes).

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    Re: UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft

    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:40 am

    Book. wrote:Russia 'freezes' India out of MTA project, to proceed alone as Il-214
    Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly | 12 January 2016

    http://www.janes.com/article/57169/russia-freezes-india-out-of-mta-project-to-proceed-alone-as-il-214

    Russia looks set to continue development of the Multirole Transport Aircraft (MTA) on its own after Ilyushin froze co-operation with India on the joint project, state media announced on 13 January.

    With the preliminary design of the twin turbofan tactical airlifter now all but finalised, United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) will likely continue with the detailed design phase of the Il-214, as it is known in Russia, through to production without Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), the TASS news agency quoted Ilyushin CEO Sergey Velmozhkin as saying.

    "It has been frozen as a joint Russian-Indian project," he said.

    While the report gave no particular reason for this development, it was reported in December 2015 that UAC and HAL were in disagreement over the type of powerplant to be fitted to the aircraft, with the former preferring the PD-14M - a modified version of the already in-service Aviadvigtel PS-90A-76 turbofan as fitted to the Il-76 'Candid' - and the latter wanting a completely clean-sheet engine with full authority digital engine control (FADEC).

    "The PS-90 does not have FADEC but the necessity of such a system was not there in the technical specifications initially," the president of UAC, Yury Slyusar, told the Indian Economic Times at the time. "It was added later. The technical requirement [for performance] is fully satisfied with the PS-90 engine.

    "So the official status is that we have finished the advanced preliminary design stage over a year ago [and] that has to be accepted by the Indian side. We hope they accept the design and move forward," he added.

    The Il-214 is expected to have a payload of between 15 and 20 tonnes and a range of 2,500 to 2,700 km, which will put it in the same class of airlifter as the Lockheed Martin C-130 Hercules (22 tonnes) and the Embraer KC-390 (23 tonnes).

    Ru go lone. thumbsup

    Maybe it is better like this. Ilyushin go ahead!


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    Re: UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:49 am

    The sooner it can replace the AN-12 the better and if the new engines are related to the new engines in the Il-476 then all the better.


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    Re: UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft

    Post  Militarov on Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:46 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Book. wrote:Russia 'freezes' India out of MTA project, to proceed alone as Il-214
    Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly | 12 January 2016

    http://www.janes.com/article/57169/russia-freezes-india-out-of-mta-project-to-proceed-alone-as-il-214

    Russia looks set to continue development of the Multirole Transport Aircraft (MTA) on its own after Ilyushin froze co-operation with India on the joint project, state media announced on 13 January.

    With the preliminary design of the twin turbofan tactical airlifter now all but finalised, United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) will likely continue with the detailed design phase of the Il-214, as it is known in Russia, through to production without Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), the TASS news agency quoted Ilyushin CEO Sergey Velmozhkin as saying.

    "It has been frozen as a joint Russian-Indian project," he said.

    While the report gave no particular reason for this development, it was reported in December 2015 that UAC and HAL were in disagreement over the type of powerplant to be fitted to the aircraft, with the former preferring the PD-14M - a modified version of the already in-service Aviadvigtel PS-90A-76 turbofan as fitted to the Il-76 'Candid' - and the latter wanting a completely clean-sheet engine with full authority digital engine control (FADEC).

    "The PS-90 does not have FADEC but the necessity of such a system was not there in the technical specifications initially," the president of UAC, Yury Slyusar, told the Indian Economic Times at the time. "It was added later. The technical requirement [for performance] is fully satisfied with the PS-90 engine.

    "So the official status is that we have finished the advanced preliminary design stage over a year ago [and] that has to be accepted by the Indian side. We hope they accept the design and move forward," he added.

    The Il-214 is expected to have a payload of between 15 and 20 tonnes and a range of 2,500 to 2,700 km, which will put it in the same class of airlifter as the Lockheed Martin C-130 Hercules (22 tonnes) and the Embraer KC-390 (23 tonnes).

    Ru go lone. thumbsup

    Maybe it is better like this. Ilyushin go ahead!

    India is anyways more keen to get Super Hercules variants as i can notice they might even sabotaged whole deal on purpose, wih IL out of picture they might be able even to obtain licence to assemble them or something of a sort.

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    Re: UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft

    Post  Austin on Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:39 am

    India Is Out, But Russia Continues Developing Il-214 Transport

    The Russian government will fund development of the Ilyushin Il-214 medium airlifter and production of about a hundred such aircraft for the Russian Air and Space Force (VKS), according to industry sources close to the program. Allocations for procurement will be provided in the Kremlin's new Armament Program after 2020, following the current program timed for 2010-2020.

    The Il-214 is, effectively, a version of the Indo-Russian Multirole Transport Aircraft (MTA). Moscow and New Delhi signed a government-to-government agreement for the MTA in 2007. This was followed three years later by a co-development agreement at the industry level. A newly established Multirole Transport Aircraft Ltd. (MTAL) company based in Bangalore made its first appearance at airshows with a stand at AeroIndia 2010.

    The development costs were previously estimated at $600 million, and were to be covered by both parties on equal terms. Serial examples of the aircraft would cost between $35 and $40 million. The global market for the MTA was forecast at 400 units, including special mission versions for electronic warfare, airborne early warning and control, reconnaissance and patrol and airborne tanker.

    India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) and its Russian collaborators signed agreements in 2012 that established a joint team of 150 designers in Moscow and Bangalore. The team started working on MTA documentation in December that year. Shortly thereafter, however, the effort was discontinued over disagreements and misunderstandings. In January, Ilyushin general manager Sergei Velmozhkin told reporters: “As a joint project between Russia and India, this project has been halted.”

    Designers in Moscow, however, continue to develop documentation for the aircraft tailored to VKS requirements. A September 2015 protocol between Russia’s Ministry of Defense and industry calls for completion of Il-214 development.

    “The Indians are very difficult people to do business with,” Ilyushin general designer Nikolai Talikov told AIN. “At first, it looked like they are all set to go, but later they began to hesitate. The two countries considered many options, including joint production of Il-114 and, later, the MTA…In the end, Russia will make this aircraft alone, under the designation Il-214.”

    The Il-214 program is currently at the draft design stage. Documentation for the manufacturing plant—Aviastar, in Ulianovsk—will be prepared after the design house completes similar work on the smaller Il-112V tactical airlifter for production at the VASO plant in Voronezh. According to Talikov, VASO is on track to make an airframe for structural testing this year, followed by a first prototype and its maiden flight in 2017.

    Subsequently, the Il-214 prototype is planned for completion “around 2020,” Talikov said. Developmental prototypes and early production examples will have twin Aviadvigatel PS-90A1 turbofans, each developing 17.4 tons of thrust. These will later be replaced by the more advanced PD-14M producing 18 tons of thrust.

    The current work schedule and engine choice are markedly different from earlier ones. Under agreements signed in 2007-2010, the MTA was to make its maiden flight between 2016 and 2018. It was to be powered by CFM International CFM56 or IAE V2500 turbofans, as these were favored above Russian and Ukrainian options to power 45 deliverable aircraft for the Indian air force.

    The most recent information on MTA/Il-214 performance and specification metrics available from Russian industry sites specify a maximum takeoff weight of 68 metric tons (149,912 pounds), maximum payload of 20 metric tons (44,092 pounds)and runway length at 1,600 m to 1,800 m (5,250 to 6,000 feet). Design targets include transportation of a 20-ton payload to 2,250 km (1,214 nm) and 10-ton payload to 6,400 km (3,454 nm) at a cruise speed of 437 ktas. The aircraft’s service life will be 35 years and 30,000 flight hours.

    Outwardly, the Il-214 resembles a classic twinjet with T-shaped empennage and two high-bypass turbofan engines on underwing pylons. The cabin cross section (with fuselage diameter of about 16 feet) is similar to the much heavier Il-76 four-engine transport. The Il-214 will be able to accommodate two standard army trucks or five airline containers. In a single-deck layout, the aircraft would accommodate 70 to 82 paratroopers; a double-decker would carry up to 150.

    The crew station is modeled after that of the Il-476 and features six multifunction displays and two head-up displays. Takeoff and landing operations can be made using both paved and unpaved runways, in hot-and-high environments, and during day or night conditions.

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    Re: UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft

    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:45 am

    Well at least they will be able to get some forward progress on this aircraft.

    Having the same engines as the Il-476 will be a real bonus in terms of purchasing power and maintainence issues... the parts pool for engines can be made larger and therefore cheaper...

    The sooner they can get these aircraft into service the better... there is a market for 20 ton payload aircraft and they can feed both ends with the new aircraft being sold to those that can afford new aircraft and surplus An-12s being sold to those who can't.

    One less Antonov on Russias books.


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