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    Erdogan and suicide rescue - full story

    Post  short_fuze on Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:24 pm

    Some time ago there was a bizarre news story that Erdogan somehow or other saved the life of a suicide jumper on a bridge over the Bosphorus. Here is a montage that shows that story.

    http://news-front.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/image559.jpg

    Here is the poor man's reaction to Erdogan's actions. Awww, how benvolent of Erdogan! Nice phone!

    http://news-front.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/image559.jpg

    The story always sounded like bs from the start. And the evidence for that? The supposed jumper turns out to be a Turkish intelligence officer!

    http://news-front.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/image558.jpg

    How unbelievably pathetic! Laughable too.

    https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/news-front.info/2015/12/28/tureckie-smi-chelovek-kotorogo-spas-erdogan-okazalsya-vysokopostavlennym-agentom-tureckoj-razvedki/

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:55 am

    short_fuze wrote:Some time ago there was a bizarre news story that Erdogan somehow or other saved the life of a suicide jumper on a bridge over the Bosphorus. Here is a montage that shows that story.

    http://news-front.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/image559.jpg

    Here is the poor man's reaction to Erdogan's actions. Awww, how benvolent of Erdogan! Nice phone!

    http://news-front.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/image559.jpg

    The story always sounded like bs from the start. And the evidence for that? The supposed jumper turns out to be a Turkish intelligence officer!

    http://news-front.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/image558.jpg

    How unbelievably pathetic! Laughable too.

    https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/news-front.info/2015/12/28/tureckie-smi-chelovek-kotorogo-spas-erdogan-okazalsya-vysokopostavlennym-agentom-tureckoj-razvedki/

    Holy mother this is hilarious LMAO!!! This narcissistic egotistical prick...Turdogan's depravity know's no boundary's lol!

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:38 am

    So it begins:

    Istanbul rail terminal rocked by several blasts, Ukrainian truck suspected cause

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  OminousSpudd on Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:19 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:So it begins:

    Istanbul rail terminal rocked by several blasts, Ukrainian truck suspected cause

    Oh the irony...

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  Kadmos45 on Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:47 pm

    Mejlis terrorists mixed up  straits, Kerch with Bosporus i suppose Wink

    And much closer to their luxurious condos in Stambool too , easy job lol!

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  higurashihougi on Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:10 pm

    OminousSpudd wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:So it begins:

    Istanbul rail terminal rocked by several blasts, Ukrainian truck suspected cause

    Oh the irony...

    "Ukrainian truck transporting fruit" - wonder which kind of "fruit" is flammable and explosive Razz Razz

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  Fred333 on Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:14 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:So it begins:

    Istanbul rail terminal rocked by several blasts, Ukrainian truck suspected cause

    Oh the irony...

    "Ukrainian truck transporting fruit" - wonder which kind of "fruit" is flammable and explosive Razz Razz

    molotov cocktail fruit obviously

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  Akula971 on Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:11 pm

    Fred333 wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:So it begins:

    Istanbul rail terminal rocked by several blasts, Ukrainian truck suspected cause

    Oh the irony...

    "Ukrainian truck transporting fruit" - wonder which kind of "fruit" is flammable and explosive Razz Razz

    molotov cocktail fruit obviously

    Granats ofcourse. Granats are pomegranates too.

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:50 pm

    Akula971 wrote:
    Fred333 wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:So it begins:

    Istanbul rail terminal rocked by several blasts, Ukrainian truck suspected cause

    Oh the irony...

    "Ukrainian truck transporting fruit" - wonder which kind of "fruit" is flammable and explosive Razz Razz

    molotov cocktail fruit obviously

    Granats ofcourse. Granats are pomegranates too.

    Throw in some 'mango' sabots........err........I mean mango sorbet, and you'll have a Christmas fruit basket, and a dish 'best served cold' for the fruit cake Turdogan lol! Wink

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  par far on Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:50 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:So it begins:

    Istanbul rail terminal rocked by several blasts, Ukrainian truck suspected cause

    Oh the irony...

    "Ukrainian truck transporting fruit" - wonder which kind of "fruit" is flammable and explosive Razz Razz


    They were probably moving weapons into Ukraine, the Turkish assholes are going against Russian interests and Russia itself(mostly in Crimea), Russia has to start supporting the PKK and the Kurds(even more).

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  Mustafa on Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:01 pm

    I wonder why you keep posting anti turkish stuff here when our nations should work with each other and not against each other.


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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  par far on Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:24 pm

    Mustafa wrote:I wonder why you keep posting anti turkish stuff here when our nations should work with each other and not against each other.



    Because Turkey is working against Russia and Russian interests, they are causing problems in Crimea, they are causing problems in Russia's Caucasus regions, Erdogan wants the Ottoman empire back and is citing that Nazi Germany(Nazi Germany killed a lot of Russians and I think the moron Erdogan's remarks are directed towards Russia) was a effective system(a system based on racist ideas that Turkey is carrying out in Syria and Iraq and Turkey is killing Kurd's), Turkey is supporting the terrorists in Syria that Russia is fighting and Turkey downed a Russian Fighter jet and Turkey is a puppet state of the Zionists.  

    I think there a lot more that Russia can do to pay back Turkey, like supporting the Kurd's and PKK, I don't know why this has not happened.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-erdogan-hitler-idUSKBN0UF1T820160101

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:04 pm

    Mustafa wrote:I wonder why you keep posting anti turkish stuff here when our nations should work with each other and not against each other.


    Russia and Kurdistan work better and better with each other every day.

    Last couple of months were just a warmup for the grat turkey spanking of 2016.

    Asia Minor is about to become interesting place... Razz

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  mack8 on Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:27 pm

    First, s novim godom to all.

    Second, as posted by Par Far, the tinpot sultan in Istanbul and his cronies are continuing do to a good job at joining Turkey to the very excrement of the ME, alongside the GCC puppet states and their sunni jihadist rats. Love how even the MSM in the so called "allied" (to Turkey) countries are having a field day with the sucker!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/12077703/Turkeys-president-says-all-he-wants-is-same-powers-as-Hitler.html

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  Mustafa on Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:07 pm

    par far wrote:
    Mustafa wrote:I wonder why you keep posting anti turkish stuff here when our nations should work with each other and not against each other.



    Because Turkey is working against Russia and Russian interests, they are causing problems in Crimea, they are causing problems in Russia's Caucasus regions, Erdogan wants the Ottoman empire back and is citing that Nazi Germany(Nazi Germany killed a lot of Russians and I think the moron Erdogan's remarks are directed towards Russia) was a effective system(a system based on racist ideas that Turkey is carrying out in Syria and Iraq and Turkey is killing Kurd's), Turkey is supporting the terrorists in Syria that Russia is fighting and Turkey downed a Russian Fighter jet and Turkey is a puppet state of the Zionists.  

    I think there a lot more that Russia can do to pay back Turkey, like supporting the Kurd's and PKK, I don't know why this has not happened.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-erdogan-hitler-idUSKBN0UF1T820160101

    You do realize that Iran hates kurds even more as turkey does and when you support the kurds you make iran your enemy? The middle east is far more complicated than you think.

    Beside that we welcome a kurd uprising it gives us the possibility to clean out.

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:29 pm


    Mustafa, my steroid upgraded lady, do not take our word for it, just read what your own countrymen have to say:


    ''Turkey faces daunting challenges in foreign policy in 2016''

    http://www.todayszaman.com/anasayfa_turkey-faces-daunting-challenges-in-foreign-policy-in-2016_408579.html


    ''Russia stirs up Turkey’s Kurdish problem''

    http://nrttv.com/EN/birura-details.aspx?Jimare=2247


    Also, if you could ''clean out'' Kurds you would have done so long ago so spare us empty swagger, you are fooling no one little girl. Razz

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  par far on Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:29 pm

    Mustafa wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Mustafa wrote:I wonder why you keep posting anti turkish stuff here when our nations should work with each other and not against each other.



    Because Turkey is working against Russia and Russian interests, they are causing problems in Crimea, they are causing problems in Russia's Caucasus regions, Erdogan wants the Ottoman empire back and is citing that Nazi Germany(Nazi Germany killed a lot of Russians and I think the moron Erdogan's remarks are directed towards Russia) was a effective system(a system based on racist ideas that Turkey is carrying out in Syria and Iraq and Turkey is killing Kurd's), Turkey is supporting the terrorists in Syria that Russia is fighting and Turkey downed a Russian Fighter jet and Turkey is a puppet state of the Zionists.  

    I think there a lot more that Russia can do to pay back Turkey, like supporting the Kurd's and PKK, I don't know why this has not happened.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-erdogan-hitler-idUSKBN0UF1T820160101

    You do realize that Iran hates kurds even more as turkey does and when you support the kurds you make iran your enemy? The middle east is far more complicated than you think.

    Beside that we welcome a kurd uprising it gives us the possibility to clean out.


    The Kurds in Iran don't face the same crap that the Kurds in Turkey face(genocide, discrimination and hardships). Russia does not need support the Kurds forever, just enough to put Turkey in it's place and start a minor civil war in Turkey(there is a minor one going on right now but not many Turkish soldiers are dying and that needs to change).

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:47 pm

    I don't think Russia is interfering in internal Turkish affairs and helping the PKK with anything. It has little to gain from such overt destabilization efforts. Russia and Turkey have bad relations now but that doesn't mean that Russia is going to be looking to promote seperatism in Turkey - it has its beef with Erdgodan and his crew, not with Turkey as a state; Russia's not going to want to do anything to poison relations for all-time (hopefully not anyway). Putin already addressed the Turks that Russia is not looking for a fight with the Turkish people, only their current government.

    But of course Russia is using the propaganda of evil Turkey oppressing Kurds, etc... for maximum value, as can be expected. I would expect Turkey to make noise about the Crimea now too and how Crimean Tatars are being oppressed, but in actuality it would only be for public consumption - Turkey wouldn't do anything for real.


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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  par far on Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:49 pm

    flamming_python wrote:I don't think Russia is interfering in internal Turkish affairs and helping the PKK with anything. It has little to gain from such overt destabilization efforts. Russia and Turkey have bad relations now but that doesn't mean that Russia is going to be looking to promote seperatism in Turkey - it has its beef with Erdgodan and his crew, not with Turkey as a state.

    But of course Russia is using the propaganda of evil Turkey oppressing Kurds, etc... for maximum value, as can be expected. I would expect Turkey to make noise about the Crimea now too and how Crimean Tatars are being oppressed, but in actuality it would only be for public consumption - Turkey wouldn't do anything for real.

    But what about his flamming python:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ankara-to-send-military-aid-to-ukraine-turkeys-volunteer-battalion-to-enforce-crimea-blockade-act-of-aggression-against-russia/5498124


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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:51 pm

    par far wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:I don't think Russia is interfering in internal Turkish affairs and helping the PKK with anything. It has little to gain from such overt destabilization efforts. Russia and Turkey have bad relations now but that doesn't mean that Russia is going to be looking to promote seperatism in Turkey - it has its beef with Erdgodan and his crew, not with Turkey as a state.

    But of course Russia is using the propaganda of evil Turkey oppressing Kurds, etc... for maximum value, as can be expected. I would expect Turkey to make noise about the Crimea now too and how Crimean Tatars are being oppressed, but in actuality it would only be for public consumption - Turkey wouldn't do anything for real.

    But what about his flamming python:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ankara-to-send-military-aid-to-ukraine-turkeys-volunteer-battalion-to-enforce-crimea-blockade-act-of-aggression-against-russia/5498124


    Yeah, you know, when this aid arrives and this 'volunteer battallion' subsequently actually attacks or commits terrorist attacks on Russian territory, as opposed to blowing up some (of their own) power pylons in the Ukraine - then you'll have a point.

    I think it's all bluster and PR albeit that's no excuse for the FSB to not have their guard up.

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  par far on Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:54 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    par far wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:I don't think Russia is interfering in internal Turkish affairs and helping the PKK with anything. It has little to gain from such overt destabilization efforts. Russia and Turkey have bad relations now but that doesn't mean that Russia is going to be looking to promote seperatism in Turkey - it has its beef with Erdgodan and his crew, not with Turkey as a state.

    But of course Russia is using the propaganda of evil Turkey oppressing Kurds, etc... for maximum value, as can be expected. I would expect Turkey to make noise about the Crimea now too and how Crimean Tatars are being oppressed, but in actuality it would only be for public consumption - Turkey wouldn't do anything for real.

    But what about his flamming python:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ankara-to-send-military-aid-to-ukraine-turkeys-volunteer-battalion-to-enforce-crimea-blockade-act-of-aggression-against-russia/5498124


    Yeah, you know, when this aid arrives and this 'volunteer battallion' subsequently actually attacks or commits terrorist attacks on Russian territory, as opposed to blowing up some (of their own) power pylons in the Ukraine - then you'll have a point.

    I think it's all bluster and PR albeit that's no excuse for the FSB to not have their guard up.


    I suppose so but Turkey under NATO is dangerous and not to be trusted.


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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  Militarov on Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:56 pm

    Turkey was supporting Chechens with training and logistic for basically a decade, now you accuse Russia of helping Kurds? Are you like... insane?

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:12 pm

    Militarov wrote:Turkey was supporting Chechens with training and logistic for basically a decade, now you accuse Russia of helping Kurds? Are you like... insane?

    And the USSR was supporting the PKK as recently as the 80s; Turkey naturally wanted payback.

    But the point is is that a line was drawn under those events iin the 2000s and Russia and Turkey commited to friendly relations. I still think its possible to avoid going back to the old times.

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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  Zivo on Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:20 pm

    Turkish M-60 supposedly destroyed by a metis. You cant see the hit as the camera man failed to do his job, but at 1:15, there's a lot of fire, the tank looses control and runs over a house. Shocked


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    Re: Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:31 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Militarov wrote:Turkey was supporting Chechens with training and logistic for basically a decade, now you accuse Russia of helping Kurds? Are you like... insane?

    And the USSR was supporting the PKK as recently as the 80s; Turkey naturally wanted payback.

    But the point is is that a line was drawn under those events iin the 2000s and Russia and Turkey commited to friendly relations. I still think its possible to avoid going back to the old times.

    But that line is now moved and Russia wants payback for Su-24. Turks (legal ones) in Russia are not relevant in this equation.

    2000 was long ago as turks are painfully discovering now. Destabilizing and burning down Turkey costs little and gives a lot of money and influence in return.

    You are way too sentimental FP

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