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    ricky123
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    Re: Indian Ballistic Missile Defence Programme

    Post  ricky123 on Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:34 am

    i agree .. no need to develop something from a scratch ...go for joint developments ..
    i think russia and india needs to be more aggressive ... fk america who r they to tell us what we can or cannot do ....

    russia needs to come out and support countries it calls allies ..or it will keep losing allies like syria ... america sells what it wants to any1 they want ... russia needs to do the same ...

    anyway the curruption is taking its toll on india .. a family has been talked about in the italian news and every1 in india thinks it is gandhi family ...

    another join venture cancelled by india
    The Indian government has rejected a proposed joint venture between Israel’s Rafael and Mahindra Defence Systems to produce anti-torpedo systems, a move that surprised Mahindra officials and could undermine future foreign teaming efforts with private Indian companies.

    Indian Defence Ministry sources said the ministry opposes such teaming projects if they involve the Indian private sector in strategic programs. Instead, the ministry supports establishing relationships for such sensitive projects only through the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

    Mahindra already has a joint venture with BAE Systems to manufacture defense land systems products.

    The joint venture proposal would have given Mahindra 74 percent equity and Rafael 26 percent. It was turned down by the Foreign Investment Promotion Board (FIPB) last month, said Khutub Hai, a retired Indian Army brigadier and CEO of Mahindra Defence systems. The company is “unhappy” with the decision by the Indian government, which gave no official reason for its denial.

    “Both Mahindra and Rafael are surprised at the decision as both are reputable companies which have extensive engagement with the government of India on projects related to defense and homeland security. We will be seeking clarification on the reason for this rejection,” Hai said.

    Hai expressed his “shock” over the decision while Rafael is already engaged in developing high-tech defense systems in India. Rafael and DRDO jointly are developing India’s long-range surface-to-air missile systems and armoring technologies.

    No Rafael executive was available for comment.

    In March, the two companies signed a memorandum of understanding to jointly develop a variety of defense systems, including anti-torpedo systems, electronic warfare systems, advanced armoring systems and remotely operated weapon stations for the Indian Army’s $11 billion Future Infantry Combat Vehicles program.

    “The decision to turn down the [joint venture] between Mahindra Defence Systems and Rafael is a retrograde step as it will discourage overseas defense companies from forging tie-ups with the domestic private sector companies to produce high-tech defense systems,” said Nitin Mehta, a defense analyst here.


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    Re: Indian Ballistic Missile Defence Programme

    Post  Sujoy on Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:46 am

    No disrespect Sujoy, but India working on BMD and ignoring an integrated air defence network is like making sure the doors are locked in a house with no walls or roof.
    Integrated air defense is an extremely expensive proposition which on this date only the US has with Russia and China taking steps towards it . Here in Asia apart from China only Singapore is working towards a limited integrated air defense.

    I am no fan of the Indian military establishment but then a BMD system does save your from certain threats if not the whole gamet of threats . A Kevlar vests doesn’t save one from a RPG but does save one from 9mm or .45 cal . One does not give up wearing a Kevlar vest just because it cannot save him from the RPG.
    BTW – How does one build a door when there are no walls ? Just curious . Smile

    the US has long supported Pakistan yet has never blocked any India/Russia deal including Brahmos, Su-30MKI, or the SSNs Russia leases to India.

    Sale of Brahmos does not violate the MTCR regime as the range of the Brahmos has been set at 290kms . The US did block the sale of Russia’s cryogenic engines to India as Uncle Sam felt India would use them to manufacture ICBMs.

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    Re: Indian Ballistic Missile Defence Programme

    Post  Viktor on Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:30 pm

    @Sujoy

    There is Iron Fist exercise going on in India just right now. I don`t know if you noticed but no S-300P/V in that exercise, unlike

    old S-125 which was modernized by Belarus (read it somewhere)and Osa.

    Look at these link .. btw nice pictures

    LINK






    And just find blog of our forum member SOC. He thinks India besides some 36D6 radar (just like in Syria case)there are no evidence

    of any India S-300P/V battery.

    The Indian SAM Network

    and his response to one of his visitors about S-300 in India

    Sean O'Connor said...

    No evidence of any S-300P or S-300V components anywhere, unless you count the 40V6 masts used with the TIN SHIELD radars!


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    Re: Indian Ballistic Missile Defence Programme

    Post  gaurav on Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:26 pm

    Sujoy wrote:it is important to remember that those individuals in the Indian media who patronizes US products do so because they are on the payrolls of US defense contractors . In other words they are mercenaries . If Rosoboronexport pays them they will rub eloquence on Russian manufacturers as well . It's that simple .

    Fully correct .

    Victor wrote:Sorry Sujoy but I found not evidence of India S-300 although there has been much talk about it
    I do not know whether India has S-300 or not. Smile


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    Indian S-300 SAM

    Post  Sujoy on Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:49 pm

    Viktor wrote:@Sujoy
    There is Iron Fist exercise going on in India just right now.

    Thanx for the pics Viktor . Yes, I am aware of this exercise that has just concluded in the deserts of Northern India.

    Viktor wrote:I don`t know if you noticed but no S-300P/V in that exercise, unlike

    Going by these pics no , I too haven't noticed any S 300 and apart from the 3 -4 links that I shared with you earlier in this thread I too do not have any further links . As & when I get them I will send it to you .

    The Center for Strategic & International Studies based in Washington D.C had published an article in July 2010 where they state :

    " Following the Pakistani purchase of M-11 missiles from China in 1995, India purchased S-300 missile defense systems from Russia, which are effective against aircraft, cruise missiles and shorter-range ballistic missiles. "

    http://csis.org/blog/india-successfully-tests-missile-intercept-capability

    Another research paper published by an eminent defense organization in New Delhi states :

    "Responding to Pakistan’s procurement of the M-9 and M-11 ballistic missiles from China the Indian government bought six batteries of Russian S-300 surface-to air missiles (SAMs) in August 1995 to protect New Delhi and other cities."

    http://www.claws.in/administrator/uploaded_files/1262760881MP_15___111209.pdf

    Everything said it's essential to remember that these pics were not taken by the blog owner but are rather pics that the Armed Forces allow a few accredited photographers to take who in turn share them with the media ( as in this case ) .

    Also , the armed forces will not give full access to any private individual to film the entire exercises and will restrict there movement to a few areas only .

    For example , a SU 30 MKI crashed during these exercises due to a bird hit but no photographer was allowed near the site .

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    Re: Indian Ballistic Missile Defence Programme

    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:32 am

    New Delhi Test-Fires India-Made Interceptor Missile

    The test of a supersonic interceptor missile AAD (Advanced Air Defense) of Indian production was conducted to validate various parameters of the interceptor in flight mode, according to local media.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — India test-fired a supersonic interceptor missile AAD (Advanced Air Defense) of its own production, local media reported on Sunday.

    "The test was conducted to validate various parameters of the interceptor in flight mode," the Indian Express newspaper reported, citing defense sources.

    The interceptor was engaged against an electronically prepared target which simulated the trajectory of a hostile ballistic missile.

    The tested missile is capable of destroying any incoming ballistic missile, the newspaper said.

    Since the early 2000s, India has been developing its ballistic missile defense program, which was launched in the wake of the ballistic missile threat mainly from Pakistan, with which New Delhi was in three major wars, one undeclared war and numerous armed confrontations.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151122/1030549400/india-aad-missile.html#ixzz3sIW8XiXc


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    Re: Indian Ballistic Missile Defence Programme

    Post  max steel on Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:53 pm

    The Need for a Missile Defense Readiness Matrix

    INDIA'S IMPERATIVES

    India's Advanced Air Defence System called "Ashwin" has achieved significant milestones in the recent past and as part of the efforts to develop a full fledged multi-layered Ballistic Missile Defence system, the DRDO on November 22, 2015 test-fired its indigenously developed supersonic interceptor missile against an electronically simulated target missile over the Bay of Bengal, capable of destroying any incoming hostile projectile.
    As part of a realistic dual threat perception, India plans to deploy a two-tiered Ballistic Missile Defence system to protect important cities and vital installations from enemy attack. The first phase seeks to destroy incoming enemy missiles of 2,000 km range, while the second phase envisages killing incoming missiles of more than 2,000 km. The PDV (Prithvi Defence Vehicle) missile is for high altitude interception, and the Advanced Air Defence (AAD) missile is for interception at lower altitudes. The DRDO had also successfully demonstrated a special feature of intercepting multiple targets with multiple interceptors. It has conducted 11 interceptor missile tests with negligible failures. While eight of the missions were in endo-atmosphere, the remaining were in exo-atmospheric regime. It is worthy to note that this technology is very exclusive and the preserve of very few nations, suffice to say it is kind of a heading position in air defense technology.

    It must be remembered that by maturing the PDV/AAD combination in Phase 1, India would be able to create capabilities against only missiles which have ranges not exceeding 2,000 km. While this will cater to the Pakistani threat until the near future, it would be rather inadequate against the full spectrum of Chinese MIRV threats.

    The DRDO is aware of these ground realities and in Phase 2 of the program, plans to develop two new anti-ballistic missiles. These Hypersonic missiles will be able to intercept threats with a range of around 5,000 km. The new missiles (AD-1 and AD-2) will be similar to THAAD missiles deployed by the US and will require radars with scan capability of over 1,500 km to successfully intercept the target.

    While the PDV & AAD tests are undoubtedly a major milestone that will bring India closer to putting in place a ballistic missile defence cover, however, one of the major drawbacks that cannot be overlooked of the evolving multi-layered air defence capability time and effort spent on evaluation & testing. While a Chinese threat is not of an imminent possibility the Pakistani equation is a different affair altogether, to protect Indian skies from any hostile attack, India must be prepared with a credible readiness matrix providing literal, time bound and an affordable test environment.

    A SPARROW FOR THE HAWKS

    Thankfully & rather interestingly such a system does exist to simulate a realistic Pakistani ballistic missile threat, Israel/US has developed the Sparrow series of target missiles for this very purpose. The Sparrow family of target missiles would be of special significance and interest to India, since this system is specifically designed to simulate the Shahab-3 missile (Iranian ballistic missiles with 1,500-2,000 km range). The Shahab 3 is an adaptation of the versatile but vintage Soviet SCUD system which shares the same technology with the Pakistani Ghauri series (Ghauri-I, II & III) ballistic missiles sourced from North Korea. By Pakistan's own unofficial admission, the technology transfer took place in 1990s from in return of the instructions on enrichment methods for uranium. The Shaheen, Shaheen-1, Shaheen-IA, Shaheen-II & Shaheen-III Chinese origin missiles are also of vintage ancestry.
    In September 2013 Israel conducted a successful flight test of the Silver Sparrow, the latest, most advanced version of the Sparrow target missile system. The Silver Sparrow was tracked by the Super Green Pine Radar (DRDO has developed the Swordfish Long Range Tracking Radar an acknowleged version of the Green Pine for target acquisition and guidance), which transferred the information to the Citron Tree Battle Management Control System. All the elements of the system performed according to their operational configuration. The Sparrow targets have a modular warhead section carrying different payloads (selectable according to test mission) such as inert, high explosive or water. The 27.5 (8.39 mw) long missile weighs over three tons.

    INVALUABLE SIMULATION

    Flexible Test Capabilities

    Sparrow targets offer medium to high fidelity threat representation and a comprehensive response to BMD sensor and interceptor test and training requirements. They can be launched above land and over sea, providing test scenario flexibility. The missile can simulate ballistic, barrel roll & maneuvering re-entry types. The target systems are easily adaptable to test range requirements due to adjustable trajectories, telemetry, radar transponders and flight termination system.

    Quick Test Readiness

    Target mission preparation and verification are quick and simple. Target operational software is easily loaded during pre-flight procedures. This enables a dramatic time reduction in achieving test readiness & defining target descriptions. Black Sparrow simulates unitary short-range theater Ballistic Missiles such as the Ghauri & Shaheen missiles.

    Blue and Silver Sparrow simulates unitary and separable medium to long-range theatres. Both targets use the same RV, incorporating a redundant autonomous flight termination system and a 3-axis attitude control system.

    EXPLOITING THE WEAKNESSES

    The North Korean & Chinese origin missiles in Pakistan's armory are of vintage lineage, the basic foundational development of these missiles started in the 1980s and matured in the early 1990s. The Chinese had terminated most of the old DongFeng missile series before handing it over to the Pakistanis. The guidance system and the terminal phase homing technologies are rather crude and grossly outdated. The missiles are sluggish and would prove easy pickings for both the PDV & AAD interceptors.

    The Sparrow cutting edge family of target missiles, though fired from a plane, traces the trajectory of a ground-to-ground or cruise missile, depending on the make. It is used to train antimissile systems and troops, who practice shooting it down.

    CONCLUSION

    In this context the Sparrow family of target missiles will be a judicious addition to India's BMD program as it will provide invaluable data of the actual re-entry characteristics of hostile missile threats which in turn will help our scientists device an agile, accurate & presumptive hit-to-kill termination system.

    Notably unlike in the case of the Arrow system which India wanted to buy from Israel, the United States may not veto the sale of Sparrow missiles to India, as its sale would not violate the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR).

    It may be noted that no nation(s) that have successfully developed the ABM or BMD systems have found it easy to thereafter deploy and consistently maintain these systems for foolproof security of their entire territory – and that includes the USA as well. The same would also be applicable to India after its ambitious BMD program reaches the intended maturity. Because of the exorbitantly high costs, it would at best be able to provide protection to only a small number of its high-value politico-strategic assets, considered to be vital for the Nation’s survival. The very issue of national survival makes it mandatory for India to acquire a complete theater BMD capability, given the policies of two nuclear armed adversaries in its neighborhood





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    Ballistic Missile Defence system

    Post  max steel on Tue May 17, 2016 12:16 am

    India successfully test-fires advanced interceptor missile

    In its effort to have a full fledged multi-layer Ballistic Missile Defence system, India on Sunday, successfully test-fired its indigenously developed supersonic interceptor missile, capable of destroying any incoming hostile ballistic missile, from a test range off Odisha coast.

    “The test conducted to validate various parameters of the interceptor in flight mode has been successful,” Defence Research Development Organisation sources said.

    The interceptor was engaged against a target which was a naval version of Prithvi missile launched from a ship anchored inside Bay of Bengal, taking up the trajectory of a hostile ballistic missile.

    The target missile was launched at about 11.15 hours and the interceptor, Advanced Air Defence (AAD) missile positioned at Abdul Kalam island (Wheeler Island) getting signals from tracking radars, roared through its trajectory to destroy the incoming hostile missile in mid-air, in an endo-atmospheric altitude, the sources said.

    Kill effect

    “The ‘kill’ effect of the interceptor was ascertained by analysing data from multiple tracking sources,” a DRDO scientist said.

    The interceptor is a 7.5-metre-long single stage solid rocket propelled guided missile equipped with a navigation system, a hi-tech computer and an electro-mechanical activator, the DRDO sources said.

    The interceptor missile had its own mobile launcher, secure data link for interception, independent tracking and homing capabilities and sophisticated radars, the sources added.

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    Re: Indian Ballistic Missile Defence Programme

    Post  max steel on Wed May 25, 2016 8:47 pm

    Interceptor missile mission a ‘failure’

    Did India lied about ballistic missile intercept test?
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    The interceptor missile mission, which took place on May 15, was a failure despite claims of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to the contrary. The interceptor never took off to intercept the incoming “enemy” missile which merely fell into the Bay of Bengal, informed sources said.

    An agency report on May 16 said a modified Prithvi missile was launched on May 15 from a naval ship in the Bay of Bengal and it mimicked the trajectory of a missile coming from an enemy country.

    ‘Never took off’


    Informed sources, however, said the interceptor missile never took off from the island; so no interception took place at all. “Post-flight analysis is going on. We do not know whether there was problem in detecting the missile, whether radars tracked it and communicated it to the interceptor,” said the sources.

    The DRDO developed both the Prithvi missile and the interceptor.

    2015 mission failed too.

    In April 2015, a similar mission failed after the interceptor dived into the Bay of Bengal a few seconds after lift off. In that mission, the DRDO planned to conduct the test against an electronic target missile. In April 2014, the warhead in the interceptor failed to explode, although the interception of the incoming “enemy” missile took place at an altitude of 120 km.

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    Re: Indian Ballistic Missile Defence Programme

    Post  max steel on Wed May 25, 2016 10:20 pm

    Israeli Spyder system emerges as frontrunner for Indian Army's air defence needs

    The Israeli Spyder system has emerged as the frontrunner for an Army requirement for a fast reaction air defence cover against enemy aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles. The Army's short-range surface-to-air missile (SRSAM) programme, which was started in 2011, is nearing final selection that will lead to a contract valued at over Rs 18,000 crore.

    Sources have told ET that the Spyder system — manufactured by Rafael Advanced Systems — is the frontrunner as its competitors from Sweden and Russia were not able to perform during technical trials carried out by the Indian Army that were concluded last year. dunno




    With both Rosoboronexport (Russia) and SAAB (Sweden) facing compliance issues, the Spyder missile system could go ahead for the next stage of procurement which is the opening of the price bid. The Spyder has already been ordered by the Indian Air Force and has been inducted to protect sensitive air fields along the border.

    The Army's SRSAM project has, however, gone through several delays and hiccups and has been running for over five years now. The Army has separately ordered the Indian-made Akash SAM systems as well but these will be tasked mainly with protection of static or defensive units as they have limited mobility as well as a larger reaction time to an incoming attack.

    While there is a push for additional Akash units for the Army from its public sector manufacturers, the SRSAM project is under a 'global buy' clause that would bring in work for the Indian private industry. The offsets involved in the project itself are valued at close to Rs 6,000 crore, which would be invested into joint ventures and production facilities in India. The Army requires at least two regiments of SRSAM that would include as many as 1,800 missiles. It also requires the winning company to transfer technology to India to manufacture the system.


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