US hostilities against Indian nationals

In order to avenge the lawful arrest of an Indian "diplomat" in New York City , the Indian Government has taken it upon itself to put the lives of Americans living in India at risk .

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/28/world/asia/india-consular-employee-retaliation.html?_r=2&

GarryB wrote:They arrested a diplomat because they under paid their house keeper...

WTF.

IF her housekeeper was so upset why didn't she quit?

Instead the US overreacts.

Idiots.

Exactly GarryB . The maid was a CIA agent . The Indian diplomat found it out and was therefore subsequently arrested by the New York police.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-devyani-khobragade-diplomat-row-sangeeta-richards-could-be-cia-agent-says-devyani-khobragade-s-father-1936700

I have never seen this kind of anti US protests that's sweeping across India , not even during the Iraq invasion .

NickM wrote:In order to avenge the lawful arrest of an Indian "diplomat" in New York City , the Indian Government has taken it upon itself to put the lives of Americans living in India at risk .

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/28/world/asia/india-consular-employee-retaliation.html?_r=2&

How is it lawful if she has diplomatic immunity?  If they start messing with the Vienna convention they can find all their diplomats at risk.

Vladimir79 wrote:How is it lawful if she has diplomatic immunity?  If they start messing with the Vienna convention they can find all their diplomats at risk.

Very true . One of the ideas doing the round in New Delhi is that since the US has violated Vienna convention by arresting a serving diplomat , India should arrest Gay US diplomats since Indian laws prohibit gay sex .

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/375270/bjp-seeks-arrest-same-sex.html

NickM , needs to find an issue , that's all .

GarryB wrote:They arrested a diplomat because they under paid their house keeper...

WTF.

IF her housekeeper was so upset why didn't she quit?

Instead the US overreacts.

Idiots.

The major irony of it all is that the main reason for her arrest was paying low wages in the United States, while there is no less than 11.5 million Hispanic-Americans who are paid pennies on the dollar of what regular citizens would get, and have no political rights to speak of.

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2014/01/10/alls-well-that-ends-well-in-us-india-ties/

View from former top Indian diplomat MK Bhadrakumar about the affair.

His blog "Indian punchline" i strongly recommend to read. Mr. Bhadrakumar is definitely top class analyst , with years of experience in the diplomacy.

Unfortunately, punishment which is needed, will not actually be acknowledged unless it is actually something drastic. India should review the purchases that they recently made, in the billions, from the US. At this point, then the US will be forced to act as they will have something to lose. India should not have diplomatic and massive trade deals with a nation that does questionable things to their diplomats. But because they are not reviewing the defense deals, the US will ultimately not care and current gov in India (Congress) will just downplay it eventually saying "We showed them".

Cannot wait to see BJP win next election (I have faith they will). I like Modi.

I aggree, capitalists only know two languages, money or force and one is favorable over the other.

zg18 wrote:http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2014/01/10/alls-well-that-ends-well-in-us-india-ties/

View from former top Indian diplomat MK Bhadrakumar about the affair.

His blog "Indian punchline" i strongly recommend to read. Mr. Bhadrakumar is definitely top class analyst , with years of experience in the diplomacy.

Yep he's been writing about Russia-West, Russia-India, Russia-India-China relations for years over at http://www.atimes.com/
Thoroughly recommend his articles.

Alicia Muller May and Wayne May, the US diplomats expelled from India were not shy of making racist remarks about India and Indians on their Facebook pages, which have now been shut, but not before those remarks were captured . According to them their dogs are better fed than Indians.

http://duckduckduckdoge.tumblr.com/

Sujoy wrote:
Alicia Muller May and Wayne May, the US diplomats expelled from India were not shy of making racist remarks about India and Indians on their Facebook pages, which have now been shut, but not before those remarks were captured . According to them their dogs are better fed than Indians.

http://duckduckduckdoge.tumblr.com/

What you expect from a country that was raised to believe in "exceptionalism" of the american "race" how they call themselfs.

Werewolf wrote:What you expect from a country that was raised to believe in "exceptionalism" of the american "race" how they call themselfs.

According to the Russell Sage Foundation, an independent research institute Currently there are more than 50 million Americans
facing hunger daily. Many of them starve to death, and local coroners routinely list their deaths as “natural causes”. The US has
literally thrown these millions on the street.

40 per cent of American workers in apparel, textile and repair services are paid less than the minimum wage. Worse, 41 per cent of
minimum wage violations in the US are against maids and housekeepers.

Not only is there a vested interest in keeping wages low, but because the vast majority affected by these slave wages belong to
Hispanic and black communities, there is no tearing hurry to enact fair laws. Racial discrimination is thus one of the main causes of
low wages in the US.

GarryB wrote:

The Indian diplomat found it out and was therefore subsequently arrested by the New York police.

And strip searched...

So much for diplomatic immunity... of course hardly the first breach of international law by the US...

Amusing that so much effort is being made to get India on side to turn them against Russia... this sort of thing should be brought up the next time someone complains about the relationship with Russia...

I don't have diplomatic immunity, but something happened to me in Chicago. A very good looking woman wanted to search me. My reply was perhaps not the best one, but I am a wicked bastard. "if you want to conduct a body search, we need to go out for a dinner first" Not the best thing to say to the paranoid Americans.

Ice Man wrote:

GarryB wrote:

The Indian diplomat found it out and was therefore subsequently arrested by the New York police.

And strip searched...

So much for diplomatic immunity... of course hardly the first breach of international law by the US...

Amusing that so much effort is being made to get India on side to turn them against Russia... this sort of thing should be brought up the next time someone complains about the relationship with Russia...

I don't have diplomatic immunity, but something happened to me in Chicago. A very good looking woman wanted to search me. My reply was perhaps not the best one, but I am a wicked bastard. "if you want to conduct a body search, we need to go out for a dinner first" Not the best thing to say to the paranoid Americans.  

Let me guess, You got full cavity search after that?

Regular wrote:

Ice Man wrote:

GarryB wrote:

The Indian diplomat found it out and was therefore subsequently arrested by the New York police.

And strip searched...

So much for diplomatic immunity... of course hardly the first breach of international law by the US...

Amusing that so much effort is being made to get India on side to turn them against Russia... this sort of thing should be brought up the next time someone complains about the relationship with Russia...

I don't have diplomatic immunity, but something happened to me in Chicago. A very good looking woman wanted to search me. My reply was perhaps not the best one, but I am a wicked bastard. "if you want to conduct a body search, we need to go out for a dinner first" Not the best thing to say to the paranoid Americans.  

Let me guess, You got full cavity search after that?

Let me put it like this; sometimes it is much better to be silent, which I have a problem with if I get the opportunity to say something. I am fucked up, I know, but no fun in behaving, right?

I think Americans are panicking cause they are losing control. Comment on this.

The whole thing happened due to US ignorance.

Devyani is diplomat, and no diplomat can be arrested with judiciary order, US did not have it.

Devyani signed the contact with her maid in India, so no reason to obey US ruled.

Are Mexican immigrants who are working in US equally paid as per US law? No, is it not slavery?

Lastly how US deals with it's own diplomats? 1 US national killed people in car crash in Pakistan, US immediately sought for diplomatic immunity, same happened in Kenya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Allen_Davis_incident

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/02/diplomat-kenya-car-crash/2612229/

What about justice here?   

And US has some Indians origin people who are trying hard to look like a white instead of dark skinned Indian.

Sujoy wrote:
Alicia Muller May and Wayne May, the US diplomats expelled from India were not shy of making racist remarks about India and Indians on their Facebook pages, which have now been shut, but not before those remarks were captured . According to them their dogs are better fed than Indians.

http://duckduckduckdoge.tumblr.com/

She reflects the majority attitude towards India .

Most Americans wont say it to an Indian's face, but the embassy liason 's attitudes towards India are not uncommon in the US.

India is not respected in America and is mostly known for call centers, starvation, silly  paganism.

Oh ! and did I mention that you guys are stealing our jobs ?   

Seems the hatred towards Indians in the US is reaching new heights . Last year it was a woman of Indian decent who received thousands of hate messages after she was crowned Miss USA and last week it was the turn of two students of Indian decent who were racially attacked on social media after they won the spelling bee championship .



http://www.vox.com/2014/5/29/5763414/racists-attack-spelling-bee-contestants

Sujoy wrote:Seems the hatred towards Indians in the US is reaching new heights . Last year it was a woman of Indian decent who received thousands of hate messages after she was crowned Miss USA and last week it was the turn of two students of Indian decent who were racially attacked on social media after they won the spelling bee championship .



http://www.vox.com/2014/5/29/5763414/racists-attack-spelling-bee-contestants

Actually the trend of attacking Indian nationals really started to become popular when India turned down being a vassal state...errr I mean "military ally" of the United States in 2012, and countless media attacks and vilification attempts on the India diaspora followed not long after. I remember circa 2006 that the U.S. under George Bush wanted to bring India under it's wing, in the same year President Bush visited Kansas State University and gave a speech. During the Q & A session (mostly handpicked questions) one particular Indian student asked a relevant question to GW, and asked him why the U.S. had a ridiculous double standard on nuclear weapons. He wondered why the U.S. with thousands of nukes and the only country to use nukes in warfare, wanted to prevent any other country from having a 1 or 2 nukes but not drastically cutting U.S. nuclear forces. Bush completely dodged the question and went straight to mocking his heavy Indian accent, and all the neo-con rednecks (the political makeup of the entirety of the crowd) started to laugh at his "funny" accent.

Don't you find that amazing?! Bush on one side of the world was cozying up to India and tried to be "cultured", but on the other side of the world (America) he liked to mock Indian students showing his true xenophobic, racist, atlanticist superemicist, chauvinist, jingoistic attitude. Alas there's some good news, demographics show that the neo-conservatives are dying off at an alarming rate, U.S. states like Florida and Texas are notoriously neo-con safe havens  which are now turning red to purple, and in 20 years racist neo-cons will be nothing more than a largely ignored, and discredited political minority with no serious power! 

magnumcromagnon wrote:Actually the trend of attacking Indian nationals really started to become popular when India turned down being a vassal state...errr I mean "military ally" of the United States in 2012, and countless media attacks and vilification attempts on the India diaspora followed not long after.

Actually Anglo Saxons always had a profound hatred for India ( especially Hindus) because England never forgave India for breaking up it's once mighty empire .

A majority of Americans feel cheated that their jobs are being outsourced to India . It's another thing that those outsourced jobs are absolutely menial .

Popular TV shows in the US feed the perception that Indians are an uncivilized lot who enter the US illegally and now plan to occupy large parts of the country .

So, it's a combination of all these factors that lead to racist attack against Indians in the US .

A friend of mine who is a devout Catholic was once beaten and thrown in the highway because he had entered a Church somewhere in Mississippi .