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    Post  Sprut-B Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:12 pm

    Look I don't know every detail, but it has been confirmed by most pro-Russian channels that an A-50 was shot down by friendlyfire, and it seems that there is a serious issue going on with their friend and foe identification system.

    No details about the tail number or anything else have been shared yet.

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:16 pm

    So you are just repeating what others say with no evidence.  Pro Russian sources told you so it must be true. Even though they lied about last A-50.

    Got it.

    I've realized pro Russians on this site and telegram and Twitter can be as dumb as pro Ukrainians.

    Even your post they don't even know the tail number or anything, but are certain it's an A-50. Which was proclaimed by Ukraine first. So because Ukraine said it first, must be true.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:26 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    But pro Russian sources told him.....

    I told you that a long time ago - those jerks are fighting for the same wallets.
    Every single of them is "collecting".
    The more drama - the more cash flow.
    Half of them would have been sent to harvest wood in taiga in a time of GPW.

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    Post  mnztr Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:26 pm

    I cannot believe they folded and returned Navalnys body. Now the mother will get an independant cornor to report he was poisoned bla bla . Dunno why Russia keeps falling for this crap. They should have buried him in the prison and left it at that.

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:30 pm

    ALAMO wrote:

    I told you that a long time ago - those jerks are fighting for the same wallets.
    Every single of them is "collecting".
    The more drama - the more cash flow.
    Half of them would have been sent to harvest wood in taiga in a time of GPW.

    I remember. And yes, all these channels do, is essentially the same as what main stream media does - they just repeat each other. Difference is, MSM just gets the news from CIA or other sources that are related like NGO's. Social media picks up something someone said somewhere with a photo or video and then all repeat it the same.

    Georoman whom I used to speak with often on Twitter during earlier years of Syrian war, is a good guy. But he isn't in Russia. So he is repeating stuff other said. The same goes for like 99% of these channels. And the ones from Russia usually have an agenda themselves. Amd as you stated, clout chasers to get money - most have an advert to donate in crypto as example.

    Rybar, who is wrong like 15% - 20% of the time does a better job of trying to keep it straight.

    The rest just parrots and that's it.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:34 pm

    mnztr wrote:I cannot believe they folded and returned Navalnys body. Now the mother will get an independant cornor to report he was poisoned bla bla . Dunno why Russia keeps falling for this crap. They should have buried him in the prison and left it at that.

    It is totally irrelevant.
    Western shitstream will spread all types of shit no matter the realities.
    Russia doesn't discuss with the west anymore, just realize that and do your due diligence using the facts.
    For every sane human on the planet, the fact that they have released the body is a proof they have nothing to hide.
    On the other hand, his mother is in a clear fight against his wife.
    She recorded and published quite a long vid that can be summed up that "widow" is a bit#ch that hasn't contacted with him since 2022. She was spotted in public with another guy/guys, only harvesting the remains of Navalny's capital.
    I will just give you one hint.
    The guy was formally unemployed for years.
    The most expensive coat he was wearing was around $12k.
    Hell yeah, this figting corruption must have been quite profitable!

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:01 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    mnztr wrote:I cannot believe they folded and returned Navalnys body. Now the mother will get an independant cornor to report he was poisoned bla bla . Dunno why Russia keeps falling for this crap. They should have buried him in the prison and left it at that.

    It is totally irrelevant.
    Western shitstream will spread all types of shit no matter the realities.
    Russia doesn't discuss with the west anymore, just realize that and do your due diligence using the facts.
    For every sane human on the planet, the fact that they have released the body is a proof they have nothing to hide.
    On the other hand, his mother is in a clear fight against his wife.
    She recorded and published quite a long vid that can be summed up that "widow" is a bit#ch that hasn't contacted with him since 2022. She was spotted in public with another guy/guys, only harvesting the remains of Navalny's capital.
    I will just give you one hint.
    The guy was formally unemployed for years.
    The most expensive coat he was wearing was around $12k.
    Hell yeah, this figting corruption must have been quite profitable!

    Are you able to post it?

    I want to use against others.
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:10 pm

    Close to zero chances - it just bypassed on some TG channel. If you are asking the part of his mother's attitude towards his ex wife?
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    Post  Belisarius Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:30 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #54 Img_2362

    Frontline leveled, 50% of the town is in Russias hands

    Moving on

    How is this possible!! Arrow told us that the Russians had stepped back in Robotyne a few days ago Laughing Laughing

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:42 pm

    Belisarius wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #54 Img_2362

    Frontline leveled, 50% of the town is in Russias hands

    Moving on

    How is this possible!! Arrow told us that the Russians had stepped back in Robotyne a few days ago Laughing Laughing

    Obviously someone is lying. . . . Of course it could also be that battles are fluid. Remember, during the first few hours of Kursk the Germans advanced several miles. In July 1943 Arrow would have written, Germans pushed back Soviet forces (even though that was the daggum plan in the opening phases). I imagine that at Gettysburg Arrow would have written Confederates push Union Army back to Little Roundtop (again that was part of the plan). Its not how you advance or fall back on day one or two, but how you stand weeks into your operation.

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:43 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Close to zero chances - it just bypassed on some TG channel. If you are asking the part of his mother's attitude towards his ex wife?

    Yeah, would be nice to hear from the vipers den
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:48 pm

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    Shooting down a Russian A-50 AWACS aircraft. Details according to some unofficial sources.
    Yesterday, 02/23/2024, at about 19:50, an A-50 AWACS aircraft was shot down over the territory of the Krasnodar Territory, tail number - 42, registration – RF–50610, Akhtubinsk airport.
    According to the Ukrainian side, the A-50 was shot down by an S-200 anti-aircraft missile. But this is wrong. More precisely, the correct wording is: "The A-50 was shot down by the use of an S-200 anti-aircraft missile.“
    An A-50 AWACS aircraft was accompanied by 2 * Su-35 fighters. The AWACS were warned of an enemy missile approaching in their direction. The air defense team stationed near the city of Taganrog in the Rostov region began work to intercept the missile object. Two missiles were fired to intercept the S-200 system. At the first attack, it was possible to hit the S-200 system and eliminate the threat to the A-50 AWACS aircraft. However, a second missile was also fired from Taganrog. There is a malfunction in the "friend-enemy" system, and the A-50 AWACS aircraft becomes the target of an anti-aircraft missile. In other words, it is considered as a result of Ukrainian planning and implementation, and not just a mistake.
    https://twitter.com/ashrafnsier/status/1761463170131013645

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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:55 pm

    @sepheronx

    https://t.me/dosye_shpiona/494

    Defeat of A-50 AWACS. Details and crew list.

    Yesterday, 02/23/2024, at about 19:50, an A-50 AWACS was shot down over the territory of the Krasnodar Territory, tail number - 42, registration - RF-50610, Akhtubinsk airfield.

    You know many of the details of the incident from other TG channels, so I won’t dwell on them.

    According to the Ukrainian side, the A-50 was shot down by an S-200 air defense missile. This is wrong. More precisely, not quite like that. The correct wording is “The A-50 was shot down using an S-200 air defense missile.”

    Here's how things stood: A-50 AWACS accompanied the Su-35. Both sides were warned that an enemy missile was approaching in their direction. The air defense crew, which is located near the city of Taganrog, Rostov region, began work on the airborne object. Two missiles were fired to intercept the S-200. The first successfully hit the S-200 and the threat to the A-50 AWACS was eliminated. However, there is also a second missile fired from Taganrog. There is a failure in the “friend or foe” system and the A-50 AWACS becomes a target for an air defense missile. You know the outcome.

    A-50 crew:
    • Borovikov Valery, major, commander;
    • Ruluk Alexander, major, navigator;
    • Mikhail Chantsev, major;
    • Vasiliev Sergey, captain;
    • Alexander Provalov, senior lieutenant;
    • Khrulev Dmitry, warrant officer;
    • Also, officers Belov, Telmanov, Soldatkin and Fedosov are attached to this board. It is not yet known whether they were on board at the time of the disaster.

    It's so surreal. Another single product was shot down. On board which were overqualified specialists.

    Now imagine the faces of the crew of the new A-50, which will be sent to replace the dead, to work in the Azov Sea. It is not clear who to fear more, strangers or our own.

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:01 pm

    All thanks to heavy FAB strikes
    And patience. Something some people here are desperately need.

    FF accident against Il-22 that returned to the airfield with a damaged tail.
    Some sources claim the plane was damaged on the airbase by a drone last year.

    But pro Russian sources told him.....
    Zaluzhny?  lol1 lol1 lol1

    serious issue going on with their friend and foe identification system.
    Again, hundreds of thousands of sorties, tens of thousands of enemy air vehicles shot down. Only a handful of friendly fire incidents.

    Hell yeah, this figting corruption must have been quite profitable!
    Cocaine isn´t cheap either.

    Russians had stepped back in Robotyne a few days ago
    Remember that Russians are stepping back into the opposite direction due to some special tactics.


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    A Su-35 destroyed a P-18 radar with a Kh-35U missile equipped with a AR seeker.

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    Post  thegopnik Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:03 pm

    -Israeli F-16Is take cover on IL-76 from S-200 missile, deploy S-300s in syria
    -same shit happens again.

    Are they too scared to use S-300 or S-400 systems because their ranges would hit civilian aircrafts?
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:13 pm

    Il-22 was it.
    Jews were hiding multiple planes in its shadow, to provoke an incident.
    Honesty wonder why there was no "accidental" strike on lets say Haifa after.
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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:44 pm

    Attack Haifa and then immediately send a phony apology - that would have been an appropriate response mirroring the behavior of the Zionists. Very Happy

    Btw. what is going on with the talk about the shot down A-50? I have not heard anything about that from the sources that I am regularly checking.
    Edit: I have just checked Mercouris channel, and he has the feeling that the sources about this story are not very reliable. Anyway, I hope Russia will have enough A-50 coverage, when the F-16 arrive. These aircraft need to be shot down asap, if they have the ability to carry a nuclear capable payload.


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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:46 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:@sepheronx

    https://t.me/dosye_shpiona/494

    Defeat of A-50 AWACS. Details and crew list.

    Yesterday, 02/23/2024, at about 19:50, an A-50 AWACS was shot down over the territory of the Krasnodar Territory, tail number - 42, registration - RF-50610, Akhtubinsk airfield.

    You know many of the details of the incident from other TG channels, so I won’t dwell on them.

    According to the Ukrainian side, the A-50 was shot down by an S-200 air defense missile. This is wrong. More precisely, not quite like that. The correct wording is “The A-50 was shot down using an S-200 air defense missile.”

    Here's how things stood: A-50 AWACS accompanied the Su-35. Both sides were warned that an enemy missile was approaching in their direction. The air defense crew, which is located near the city of Taganrog, Rostov region, began work on the airborne object. Two missiles were fired to intercept the S-200. The first successfully hit the S-200 and the threat to the A-50 AWACS was eliminated. However, there is also a second missile fired from Taganrog. There is a failure in the “friend or foe” system and the A-50 AWACS becomes a target for an air defense missile. You know the outcome.

    A-50 crew:
    • Borovikov Valery, major, commander;
    • Ruluk Alexander, major, navigator;
    • Mikhail Chantsev, major;
    • Vasiliev Sergey, captain;
    • Alexander Provalov, senior lieutenant;
    • Khrulev Dmitry, warrant officer;
    • Also, officers Belov, Telmanov, Soldatkin and Fedosov are attached to this board. It is not yet known whether they were on board at the time of the disaster.

    It's so surreal. Another single product was shot down. On board which were overqualified specialists.

    Now imagine the faces of the crew of the new A-50, which will be sent to replace the dead, to work in the Azov Sea. It is not clear who to fear more, strangers or our own.

    A country like Russia cannot have those levels of inefficiency. It's really pathetic.
    It is a loss due to own errors. Not only do you lose important machines but you feed Ukrainian stupidity that believes in a possible victory.
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    Post  LMFS Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:05 pm

    Quite honestly, I would call it retardation of the first class to fill pages after pages bitching about the loss of a SINGLE plane when ukros have close to no more cannon fodder to tap, no tanks, no air force, no economy and soon no country any more. Can put all those wasted posts in the trash if you ask me...

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    Post  Belisarius Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:13 pm

    Hole wrote:

    serious issue going on with their friend and foe identification system.
    Again, hundreds of thousands of sorties, tens of thousands of enemy air vehicles shot down. Only a handful of friendly fire incidents.


    It is important to remember that planes not only crash due to enemy attacks or friendly fire, but also due to mechanical failures. A plane that makes dozens of flights a month in times of peace is a plane that makes dozens of flights a day in times of war.
    Today the probability of a Russian plane crashing due to malfunction is exponentially greater than it was before the war.
    This is something that many “pro-Russia” sources ignore because they need this friendly fire BS to get their  "doom clicks".

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:31 pm

    Regarding the alleged downing of the A-50, so far, there is nothing proven.
    Only rumors and images, where the aircraft cannot be clearly identified.
    As always, pro-Western propaganda sowing tares.
    The sad thing is that some naive people, supposedly pro-Russian, fall into these enemy intelligence operations.


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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:23 am

    mnztr wrote:I cannot believe they folded and returned Navalnys body. Now the mother will get an independant cornor to report he was poisoned bla bla . Dunno why Russia keeps falling for this crap. They should have buried him in the prison and left it at that.
    Just like I said in my previous post. It often looks as if the kremlins are programmed to think and act in a pre-determined way. They cannot help or change themselves. This is what they are.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:27 am

    sepheronx wrote:

    Are you able to post it?

    I want to use against others.

    This is what I've found



    Ethan Tennenbaum
    @itan_tennenbaum
    It is a fake, the voice of mother was generated with bad quality because neural model had a little samples.

    If i was a part of auditory of this account i would thinks: why hi's posting inprooved materials?

    https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1760689047490724042

    This is pretty balanced

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/navalnys-body-finally-released-mother-amid-controversy-over-public-moscow-funeral


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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:27 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    Honesty wonder why there was no "accidental" strike on lets say Haifa after.
    Because Russia and Putin do not act this way. They never give tit for a tat. Some see this as weakness. Some see this as moral behavior.
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    Post  lyle6 Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:12 am

    Sprut-B wrote:
    Pro-Russian sources have confirmed
    I'm a pro-Russian source and I dispute these claims entirely.

    ALAMO wrote:
    I told you that a long time ago - those jerks are fighting for the same wallets.
    Every single of them is "collecting".
    The more drama - the more cash flow.
    Half of them would have been sent to harvest wood in taiga in a time of GPW.
    The important thing is the Russian soldier doesn't care either way. Who is he going to believe, some telegramer or his own lying eyes?

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