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    mack8

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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  mack8 on Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:31 pm

    What is that mast radar called, is it the 96L6 from the news above or is it something else? Thanks.
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    Post  Viktor on Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:35 pm

    mack8 wrote:What is that mast radar called, is it the 96L6 from the news above or is it something else? Thanks.
    Yes, its 96L6.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  SOC on Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:35 pm

    Looks like this site: 56.163895°, 37.397155°

    Current (May 2012) imagery shows two 36D6 radars present, the one you see atop the elevated platform in the video and one atop a 40V6-series mast where the 96L6 is currently located.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Viktor on Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:54 am

    Russian big one from MAKS-2013 - pay attention to the range Very Happy 















    and many others

    http://saidpvo.livejournal.com/225127.html


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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  medo on Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:17 pm

    Maybe MARS radar for S-500. I really doubt this is civil radar...Wink 
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    Post  Viktor on Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:26 pm

    medo wrote:Maybe MARS radar for S-500. I really doubt this is civil radar...Wink 
    This is not S-500 radar MARS nor civil radar. I suspect this is the radar that will go to Russian radar units and will accompany PVO troops (S-500 units).

    He will provide constant radar picture of the area combined with perhaps NEBO-M or some other of the Russian big ones and alert S-500 units if threat arises.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:07 am

    Came across this interesting info from MDB on MAKS

    Perhaps the greatest surprise of the MAKS-2013 airshow was the Demonstrator, a new radar displayed by Almaz-Antey. No information was available about that radar prior to the exhibition in Moscow. The product displayed at MAKS-2013 was described as a “the Demonstrator, a new specialized civilian radar, 1:1 scale, transmitter and receiver stations”. According to the information plate, the Demonstrator is a mobile specialized radar designed to monitor the launch of space carriers and the descent of reentry vehicles. The outward appearance of the Demonstrator is similar to the radars used in the US THAAD missile defense system and to the Israeli Elta Green Pine radar, which is used in the Arrow missile defense system. It appears that the product presented as a “civilian radar” at MAKS-2013 is actually a mobile early warning missile defense radar that will be used to detect missile launches and track missile trajectories in future Russian missile defense and space defense systems. The Demonstrator can detect targets at a distance of up to 1,500 km, and lock on targets with an RCS of 1 sq. m. at 600 km. The antennas used in the new radar are fully digital-receiver and transmitter-phased array setups.
    Found the systems photo from Vitlay website ( scroll below to see Demonstrator radar )

    http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/521

    Specs ( in Russian )

    http://77rus.smugmug.com/Military/MAKS-2013/i-cPvPNcp/0/O/MAKS2013part5-45.jpg

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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  medo on Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:54 pm

    There is also new radar Nebo-UME, which was not noticed as it should be.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:58 pm

    medo wrote:There is also new radar Nebo-UME, which was not noticed as it should be.
    More Info

    NNIIRT develops new dual-frequency early warning radar

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    Post  Viktor on Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:37 pm

    Austin wrote:
    medo wrote:There is also new radar Nebo-UME, which was not noticed as it should be.
    More Info

    NNIIRT develops new dual-frequency early warning radar
    I seriously doubt that it takes 5 hours to deploy this radar. Its a mistake. 20 min at max.
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    Came across this interesting info from MDB on MAKS

    Post  Viktor on Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:41 pm

    medo wrote:There is also new radar Nebo-UME, which was not noticed as it should be.
    Didnt notice. I thought that some mistake has been made by journalists. Tnx man.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:27 pm

    Interesting report on the new Nebo-UME radar by Jane's...

    NNIIRT develops new dual-frequency early warning radar
    http://www.janes.com/article/28401/nniirt-develops-new-dual-frequency-early-warning-radar
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Viktor on Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:43 pm

    Russia just got new OTH radar system CONTAINER.



    In the army has taken over EKR first pilot alert radar horizon detection "Container"
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  medo on Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:38 pm

    Viktor wrote:Russia just got new OTH radar system CONTAINER.



    In the army has taken over EKR first pilot alert radar horizon detection "Container"
    Excellent. They could just place this radar in square in Ural and whole russian air space will be covered.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  medo on Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:34 pm

    http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201312031334-4e99.htm

    A video about this new OTH radar.

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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Austin on Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:26 pm

    An OTH radar should be able to detect PAK-DA/B-2 type aircraft as they would reflect radar waves from all sides specially the top part and should generate echo from LO targets
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    Post  Viktor on Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:57 pm

    medo wrote:http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201312031334-4e99.htm

    A video about this new OTH radar.
    You can see at that video (2:15-2:20) 29B6 Container monitoring Denmark aviation trafic Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 

    Container has 3000km (miles - depend on the source) range and series of them (7 I think) is ordered by Russian MOD. 

    29B6 Container

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    Post  Austin on Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:18 pm

    Interview with chief designer Valentin Strelkin station on container radar

    http://www.redstar.ru/index.php/component/k2/item/13117-zagorizontnyj-ryvok-rossii

    At the moment we are seeing the traffic situation over Europe. Relatively speaking, our station sees the tactical aviation located at NATO air bases, to the Channel - he commented. - We see a lot of air targets, track their trajectory and motion parameters, what type of a particular aircraft, military or civilian, he, single target or group. My goal as a commander of duty forces -

    And I must say that the intensity of a new radar ZGO increased in the last two years. In 2014, we expect to increase the combat capabilities of the station "container." Already next year its characteristics will increase. In the future, one such radar ZGO will "see" all aerodynamic targets, including small-size aircraft at a distance of up to 3,000 km, an azimuth of 240 degrees.

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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Austin on Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:21 pm

    How does the new Container OTH radar differ from the Early Warning Radar ? The EW radar the new one being built operate in meter and decimenter band and has range of 6000 km

    What band does Container operate ?
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:39 pm

    The other early warning radar just shoot a strong signal but is limited due to the curviture of the earth. OTH radar uses the ionosphere to reflect the signal so that they are not so limited. But usually the resolution is lower and quality of signals are not the best, hence the other radars are meant to work in conjunction with the OTH and are better for accurate tracking. I dunno if it runs off of UHF or VHF though. One my father help build in dew lines was VHF.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Viktor on Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:02 pm

    No details of the radar. 




    This thing is mobile also Very Happy (its build like LEGO and may need several days and more many trucks but still) 
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  flamming_python on Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:03 pm

    Meh, ELF all the way. I'm the only one of you fkers to have seen it Smile 

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    Post  calripson on Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:20 am

    It is interesting that in ham radio ionospheric skip usually produces a signal about 2700-3000 miles away. I assume the process here is similiar. I wonder how wide an area the radar sees and if they can vary the covergae zone. For example, the radar in Mordovia is seeing Denmark. Would they have to built a radar to farther to the east to see Polish airspace ? Farther to the west to see Great Britain ? Why not put a radar of this type in Kalingrad to see the British Isles ?

    Also, I would think this type of radar would be easy to spoof/jam.
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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Viktor on Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:30 am

    calripson wrote:It is interesting that in ham radio ionospheric skip usually produces a signal about 2700-3000 miles away. I assume the process here is similiar. I wonder how wide an area the radar sees and if they can vary the covergae zone. For example, the radar in Mordovia is seeing Denmark. Would they have to built a radar to farther to the east to see Polish airspace ? Farther to the west to see Great Britain ? Why not put a radar of this type in Kalingrad to see the British Isles ?

    Also, I would think this type of radar would be easy to spoof/jam.
    Russians will produce at least several of those radar with many more prepaired positions so they can be moved around as the need arises.. I bet they will optimize the radar field so they can see Britain too Very Happy but anyway Russia already has 6000km range radar system covering Britain and the whole Europe too.

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    Re: Russian Radar systems

    Post  Austin on Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:09 am

    sepheronx wrote:The other early warning radar just shoot a strong signal but is limited due to the curviture of the earth. OTH radar uses the ionosphere to reflect the signal so that they are not so limited. But usually the resolution is lower and quality of signals are not the best, hence the other radars are meant to work in conjunction with the OTH and are better for accurate tracking. I dunno if it runs off of UHF or VHF though. One my father help build in dew lines was VHF.
    Could be L band or UHF

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