Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #1

Vann7 wrote:WTF!!
The latest most embarrassing misleading report about space mars exploration ever , done by who?

If you though it was done by CNN , or FOX or  BBC.. then you guessed wrong.
it was done by nothing less than Russian Government media Sputinik news.  

According to SPutnik news..  The exploration in mars began in 2001.  
and India was first in mars than Russia.   and India travel to mars and got it
right in the first try.    

i have nothing against India.. wish them all the look and success in space and
they have very talented scientist too to do the job ,but when you have the retarded logic of such sputnik reports combined with such uninformed piece of shit report . like no mentioning how NASA carried almost the entire project on INDIA on their shoulders ,NASA facilities ,satellites and technology had to be used ,since India do not have a robust communication network of satellites in space to control the orbiter even less the experience to correctly adjust the fly path of the orbiter.Neither realize that going to space today is far easier ,not because scientist are better ,but because any amateur space program that start today as SpaceX is ,will benefits from the many decades of trial and error of NASA and Russia space programs.  So the mountain of knowledge that exist , give a HUGE advantage to anyone who comes later , that do not need
to experiment a lot and use already proven working technology.

http://sputniknews.com/infographics/20160413/1037938064/ten-explorers-mars.html

For example today is very well know how lethal is space to electronics and humans for the radiation , only thanks to US and Russia decades of exploring space. and how cold is space ,
and hundred below zero degrees ,is not easy. to keep thing from freezing.  But without that knowledge and the technology that is available for everyone today in composites and very resistant materials to heat and cold and radiation ,India will have never do it ever in the first try not even in the 100th. Until it gets knowledge first and technology needed to get there.

It just once more CONFIRMS , what i was saying to Garry , of the incompetence
of the Russian Government. Not even in their own financed media ,they can get the
information right and totally mis report Russia space program.  So a we reaching a point
where we need to warn people , of using Sputnik news for any info about space or science?
How can such things be possible ?  It is so complex for media to release a report that gets verified before released the information?


I means how hard it is ,to give a phone call to anyone in the Russian space industry and ask
them Russia participation in mars? or just a quick look at wikipedia which is neither always
truthful but in this case they also have way better information that this piece of junk report about mars by sputnik .

Even NASA official website get it right about Russia exploration in mars.

This doesn't look like a big deal.. but it is folks!!!
Because Russia have close to ZERO influence in (the world of communications) and media,
the west control 99% of the world media ,magazines and newspapers, [b] so the last thing they can do is to at least get it right with the one or two media outlets they control ? dont you think? or perhaps to ask a journalist to do a proper investigation  is too much ? and supervision of their job is too hard?         

It also fails to mention how on board of the Exo mars rover ,there will be Russian scientific equipment and sensors to measure the environment in mars.

and this is unfortunately not the first time i see such misleading reports.  RT also have done their own WTF reports ,It looks as if no one in Russia Government really cares about doing its job correctly and there is zero supervision of anything there . This makes me remember the next youtube video. that clearly illustrate the LAZY fat ,LAME, Careless aptitude of Russians in
soviet times ,at their jobs ,that the government controls as had no proper supervision. start watching at minute 23.00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3sN9KDEfXY

So perhaps if a problem of the old soviet ways of managing and supervision (or lack of)
that still heavily exist in Russia. Like the saying Old habits are hard to break.

Rmf wrote:problems for the first launch?
another scandal?
all that trip and pr show for nothing !
it seems putin is furious !

PapaDragon wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Weird. So it cancelled launch automatically? All these systems are closed systems right? No access from outside sources?

Rocket was running self-diagnostics, detected a problem and aborted launch. There is no human involvement at that phase. Same thing happened at Kurou the other day. They fixed the problem and launched later.