Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

No, S-300,350,400, No Ka-52, No Su-30/35, MiG-35, No T-90MS  overall No latest technology simple as that, the US and its agents ISIS are in Iraq, as soon this ISIS paid CIA and Mossad Agents would seize any modern and new russian weapon they would hand it over to CIA/Mossad for money just like they did in the past with Taliban paying them thousands or tenthousands of dollars and seizing multi million worth technology for copying or studying just like T-72B, Kontakt ERA, MSTA-S and T-80U via Marocco etc pp... just no latest technology for any instable or non military allied country.

mack8 wrote:

No, S-300,350,400, No Ka-52, No Su-30/35, MiG-35, No T-90MS  overall No latest technology simple as that, the US and its agents ISIS are in Iraq, as soon this ISIS paid CIA and Mossad Agents would seize any modern and new russian weapon they would hand it over to CIA/Mossad for money just like they did in the past with Taliban paying them thousands or tenthousands of dollars and seizing multi million worth technology for copying or studying just like T-72B, Kontakt ERA, MSTA-S and T-80U via Marocco etc pp... just no latest technology for any instable or non military allied country.

No need to over-dramatize, there's a reason for the "E" or "K" in most if not all export gear and subsystems.

On another note, did anything new surfaced regarding Abadi's visit to Moscow?

iraqidabab wrote:In my opinion, we don't need any of the high tech stuff you just listed there at this moment.

Iraq needs more SU-25's, but the modern versions with PODS that give FLIR sight & targeting of ground targets.

Also Pecheneg 7.62mm, RPO-A Shmel or different RPG-7 warheads to take care of the terrorists in urban environment. Observation systems, maybe mines as well to minimize entry zones into strategic locations such as army bases etc, makes it easier to defend. T72's from Russian stockpiles, BTR 82. Maybe a deal for more licensed production of armored vechiles in Iraq.

Iraq also needs industrial build up as there's too much import from Chinese companies, sometimes low-quality stuff as politicians like to keep some money for themselves.

-Ammo factory
-Kevlar helmet, body armor production because a very large part of the paramilitary 'popular mobilization forces' have no body armor and no helmet.
-Licensed production of a modern AK rifle to make it a standard rifle of the army would be a nice dream, such as AK-12.

iraqidabab wrote:In my opinion, we don't need any of the high tech stuff you just listed there at this moment.

Iraq needs more SU-25's, but the modern versions with PODS that give FLIR sight & targeting of ground targets.

Also Pecheneg 7.62mm, RPO-A Shmel or different RPG-7 warheads to take care of the terrorists in urban environment. Observation systems, maybe mines as well to minimize entry zones into strategic locations such as army bases etc, makes it easier to defend. T72's from Russian stockpiles, BTR 82. Maybe a deal for more licensed production of armored vechiles in Iraq.

Iraq also needs industrial build up as there's too much import from Chinese companies, sometimes low-quality stuff as politicians like to keep some money for themselves.

-Ammo factory
-Kevlar helmet, body armor production because a very large part of the paramilitary 'popular mobilization forces' have no body armor and no helmet.
-Licensed production of a modern AK rifle to make it a standard rifle of the army would be a nice dream, such as AK-12.

iraqidabab wrote:In my opinion, we don't need any of the high tech stuff you just listed there at this moment.

Iraq needs more SU-25's, but the modern versions with PODS that give FLIR sight & targeting of ground targets.

Also Pecheneg 7.62mm, RPO-A Shmel or different RPG-7 warheads to take care of the terrorists in urban environment. Observation systems, maybe mines as well to minimize entry zones into strategic locations such as army bases etc, makes it easier to defend. T72's from Russian stockpiles, BTR 82. Maybe a deal for more licensed production of armored vechiles in Iraq.

Iraq also needs industrial build up as there's too much import from Chinese companies, sometimes low-quality stuff as politicians like to keep some money for themselves.

-Ammo factory
-Kevlar helmet, body armor production because a very large part of the paramilitary 'popular mobilization forces' have no body armor and no helmet.
-Licensed production of a modern AK rifle to make it a standard rifle of the army would be a nice dream, such as AK-12.

sheytanelkebir wrote:
I do wonder if Iraqis also opt to take delivery of the MiG29M/MiG35... since they do need SOME air defence capability and long range strike capability.

iraqidabab wrote:You're right about the BMPT dual weapon but we need them from the Russian stockpiles of T72's. I heard Russia has thousands of T72's out of service which can be bought, wouldn't 300 make a major change for Iraq ?

iraqidabab wrote:You're right about the BMPT dual weapon but we need them from the Russian stockpiles of T72's. I heard Russia has thousands of T72's out of service which can be bought, wouldn't 300 make a major change for Iraq ?

sheytanelkebir wrote:Official iraqi newspaper al sabah mentioned.

3bn in emergency shipments including mi24 helicopters anti tank missiles and pantsir s1. Iraqi interior ministry seeking equipment including comms and uav.

Air force wants mig31!and mig35

But although official. This is a political newspaper so not specialised in military affairs.. They get details wrong often.

sheytanelkebir wrote:Official iraqi newspaper al sabah mentioned.

3bn in emergency shipments including mi24 helicopters anti tank missiles and pantsir s1. Iraqi interior ministry seeking equipment including comms and uav.

Air force wants mig31!and mig35. Neutralising Saudi air supremacy is on the cards.

But although official. This is a political newspaper so not specialised in military affairs.. They get details wrong often.

They did say that in 2015 iraq will buy 50% of Russian arms exports. So totals should reach 7bn. 3bn emergency deal and 4bn strategic deal.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

sheytanelkebir wrote:Official iraqi newspaper al sabah mentioned.

3bn in emergency shipments including mi24 helicopters anti tank missiles and pantsir s1. Iraqi interior ministry seeking equipment including comms and uav.

Air force wants mig31!and mig35. Neutralising Saudi air supremacy is on the cards.

But although official. This is a political newspaper so not specialised in military affairs.. They get details wrong often.

They did say that in 2015 iraq will buy 50% of Russian arms exports. So totals should reach 7bn. 3bn emergency deal and 4bn strategic deal.

Interesting, it's said that the improved MiG-31's which are MiG-31BM's, are said to be capable of also carrying out land attack roles. GarryB could also elaborate on that.

iraqidabab wrote:Who knows they mixed 29 with 31.

Because for the MIG-31 to do what it's meant for you need the R-33/R-37, that missile would be a threat to any air force, I doubt they want to sell that. MIG-35 sounds more realistic in the future.

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On Twitter which means unconfirmed some members stated that Russia invited Iraq to send it's best paramilitary forces for SF training in Russia.

flamming_python wrote:Iraq bas been barely holding off the ISIS assault; acquiring MiG-31s and MiG-35s should NOT be on the list of priorities.

Besides which Iraq will have nothing to pin down as collatoral for such expensive equipment - if ISIS ends up capturing some Iraq's oilfields and Kurdistan splits off with the rest of them.

Another 2 years of the sort of warfare that Iraq is facing now - and it end up like Syria; with an exhausted populace and an improvised army that's barely holding together and an economy that's only functioning on the generosity of Iran.

The very first order of things should be to expell the ISIS terrorists from Iraqi land.
Everything else comes later.