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    JohninMK

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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:41 pm

    Atakor wrote:IIRC there were Mig 35 being made for an unnamed customer Exclamation  I wouldn't be surprised at all if they turned out to be for Irak.
    Possibly due to earlier availability than Su products. Bit of a sales boom going on over there with lengthening lead times.

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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:09 pm

    The news that leaked is that Russia has agreed to a 5 year delay in payment for a $7bn in weapons contract that Iraqis contracted for in 2014 but were unable to pay.

    So now those items can be released for delivery.

    They include
    T90 tanks
    500X Bmp3m
    24X mig35
    Anti tank missiles
    Brm-3m
    And other items.

    I wonder if they reinstated the 2s19 order too.
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    Post  mack8 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:35 am

    Would be interesting if/ when we have confirmation (by seeing the gear arriving in Iraq). The last rumour was the MiGs are supposed to start arriving in December isn't it?
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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  Viktor on Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:52 am

    Iraq has purchased 400 BMR-3M vehicles from Russsia

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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:47 am

    mack8 wrote:Would be interesting if/ when we have confirmation (by seeing the gear arriving in Iraq). The last rumour was the MiGs are supposed to start arriving in December isn't it?

    well. kick back. put up your feet and wait a while. things always go horrendously slowly with iraqis.... i mean they wanted to buy 15 surplus L-159s and it took them 2 years to finish the paperwork...

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    Post  iraqidabab on Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:24 pm

    Viktor wrote:Iraq has purchased 400 BMR-3M vehicles from Russsia

    LINK

    Isn't 400 way too much for special type vechiles like mine clearing, maybe the numbers are wrong.
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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:37 am

    Would be useful vehicles to lead attacks and clear mines at the same time... I suspect a mine flail or heavy roller would add front protection from ATGMs as well...

    A RWS with a 12.7mm HMG would make it a useful recon vehicle to test approaches with fairly good armour protection... I would add ARENA myself and something like SHTORA that would jam SACLOS missiles like TOW... both systems would be rather simplified without a moving turret.


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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  iraqidabab on Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:48 pm

    News from parliament defence committee that 6-10 SU-25's are to arrive somewhere 4 weeks. If true, new built? Thought Russia doesn't retire its current Su-25s.
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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  mack8 on Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:25 pm

    They must be second hand machines from somewhere, the Su-25 factory is in Georgia and afaik they are not building anything, only overhaul.
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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  GarryB on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:55 am

    They produce the two seat models in Russia... and the best models were the Su-25T and Su-25TM that were based on the two seat version even though they were fitted with single seats.

    Fitted for Vikhr missiles they would be excellent platforms to hit point targets and operate at low level in a conflict zone.

    Vikhr missiles are in production so availability wont be an issue... and on the Frogfoot it could carry 8 missiles on each of two pylons with an engagement range of about 12-15km.

    It could carry a range of other guided weapons too... and with a Gefest &T aiming system added to increase the accuracy of unguided bombs and rockets it would be a very potent little plane.


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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  medo on Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:01 am

    mack8 wrote:They must be second hand machines from somewhere, the Su-25 factory is in Georgia and afaik they are not building anything, only overhaul.

    No doubt they will be second hand planes. But Su-25UB was produced in Ulan Ude in Russia and there is a plan for a long time to restart production of two seater Su-25UBM, which will be on the level of Su-25SM3. There is a good chance, that RuAF will slowly replace their old non modernized Su-25 jets with new Su-25UBM.

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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:56 pm

    today two Mi28Ne were delivered to Iraq.
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    Post  Militarov on Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:50 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:today two Mi28Ne were delivered to Iraq.



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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  Militarov on Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:23 am

    Russian newspaper Kommersant said Iraq is in talks to buy a small number of MiG-29M fighters.

    "Багдад был заинтересован в дальнейших закупках вооружений, но из-за падения цен на нефть иракские военные были вынуждены ужаться в своих запросах, говорит источник "Ъ" в сфере ВТС. Но, по его словам, переговоры все равно продолжаются: сейчас они рассматривают вариант с закупкой небольшой партии истребителей типа МиГ-29М."

    Source: http://kommersant.ru/doc/2912394
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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:45 am

    Russia successfully completed delivering Pantsir-S1 (24 systems) AD in Iraq



    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1733511.html


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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:28 pm

    http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=638&sid=bafeb48288a26a1d547a834398bb2222&start=150

    in last week's visit by the large russian delegation headed by the deputy prime minister of russia dimitry rogozin a team of 100 russian negotiators and specialists came.

    The discussed the speeding up of iraq's $7Bn in weapons orders including the delivery of MiG35 fighters and a complete armoured brigade of T90 tanks. these deliveries had been suspended due to Iraq's financial crisis.
    The Russian delegation said that the Joint Iraqi RUssian cooperation committee hold its next meeting in Mosul after its liberation from Daesh
    The entry of Russian oil companies into Iraq's domestic market
    Cooperation in space projects and establishment of a joint space centre in iraq.

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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:21 pm

    In 2015 Iraq was the biggest receiver of "secret code" exports from Russia. Over $1.5Bn...

    what that contained who knows... but the pictures of S300VM missiles in "iraqi AD style" cammo gives hope that the 2013 statement by the Iraqi Defence Committee about "advanced missile systems costing $210M each" are S300VMs...

    Lets hope that the often repeated rumours of the MiG35 are real too... though they would not be counted under any 2015 figure.

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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:49 pm

    https://www.mod.mil.iq/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2779

    Iraqi mod announces the arrival of 3x su 25s as part of the contract with Russia.
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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  mack8 on Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:23 pm

    Thanks for the news Sheytan, any pictures? Are they regular Su-25 or maybe SM?

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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:20 pm

    No pics yet. I note that recently opsec has improved at iraqi airports...  No more leaking pics by airport ground staff.

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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:21 pm

    Anyway What I'm really waiting for are the antey 2500.
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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  mack8 on Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:34 pm

    No pics yet. I note that recently opsec has improved at iraqi airports... No more leaking pics by airport ground staff.
    A necessary evil i guess, hopefully something will transpire soon though.

    Anyway What I'm really waiting for are the antey 2500.
    That would be something to actually see S-300VM (and MiGs and Sukhois etc.) in Iraq. Very Happy

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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:23 pm

    Actual deliveries turn out to be 3X single and 1X dual seater. Bringing up the total fleet size to 10x single and 2X dual seaters.
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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  medo on Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:05 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:Actual deliveries turn out to be 3X single and 1X dual seater. Bringing up the total fleet size to 10x single and 2X dual seaters.

    So, Iraqi air force now have a full squadron of Su-25 jets. thumbsup

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    Re: Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:13 pm

    Who knows... It is very much possible that 4X airframes were sent back on the same an124 for overhaul. Which is the standard modus operandi of the iraqi af with Russian jets. Leaving 8 in place...

    Can someone tell if these are bog standard su25 without night attack capability?

    http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2062&start=645

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