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    Re: Russian Gun Artillery: Discussion Thread

    Post  GarryB on Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:51 am

    I seem to remember there were some non lethal rounds developed for the 122mm calibre artillery guns... specifically a jamming round that can be fired behind enemy lines to jam nearby communications... and also a flare carrying round.

    122mm can also use guided shells so in terms of low collateral damage use these would be ideal.

    Of course in most situations it would be totally over kill... for police operations.

    Of course the terrorists that attacked the Moscow theatre and the school at Beslan were better armed than some countries armed forces so the extra fire power might come in useful I suppose.


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    Post  d_taddei2 on Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:04 am

    eehnie wrote:
    It is very interesting data.

    The fact that the crew is out, unprotected while firing, makes this new system some step back the 2S1, 2S34, 2S36, and even of the 2S23 and 2S9, on safety of the crew. It makes unlikely the adoption of this system by the Russian Armed Forces. I do not think it would meet the current Russian requirements on safety of the crew.

    Otherwise this system would be far ahead of towed artillery.



    i agree, other countries have managed to have their systems operate from inside and self loaders etc, i think the Serbs version both the Sora 122mm and the Nora B-52 are both great systems. Russia is a bit behind when it comes to wheeled SP artillery yes they produced the  A-222 Bereg 130mm, but this was put on such a heavy chassis making the system weight 43.7 tons, which makes it 10.7 tons heavier than the heaviest version of Nora B-52, and even 1.7 tons heavier than 2S19 Msta-S which is armoured and carrying a bigger gun. I really don't know why Russia choose the MAZ 543 to mount a 130mm gun, you would think with all the trucks, and surplus armoured vehicles they could have mounted it on something else which would be lighter, such as the following:

    KamAZ-6350/6560 8x8 (used for Panstir and Tornado MRLS)
    Ural-5323 8x8
    ZIL-135 (used for FROG-7)
    BAZ-5937/6944/6950 (used for OSA)
    BTR-80
    BTR-70
    BTR-60
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    Re: Russian Gun Artillery: Discussion Thread

    Post  Benya on Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:56 am

    Analysis : Russian defense industry promotes modern artillery systems on global military market.

    Despite latest defense hardware developments, artillery that was introduced to armies several centuries ago remains 'the god of war' and the backbone of land forces. It drastically facilitates the accomplishing of almost all combat tasks. Therefore, artillery and rocket artillery systems are supposed to be in high demand in the years to come.


    BM-30 Smerch 300mm MLRS (Multiple launch Rocket System)

    Russia`s Rosoboronexport company offers proven, reliable, and combat effective hardware of the aforementioned types to potential foreign customers on the global arms market.

    The 300 mm Smerch (Whirlwind) multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) is one of the most powerful rocket artillery platform in the world. The system is intended for engaging enemy`s manpower, soft-skin pieces of hardware, artillery units, helicopters on their landing sites, deployed air defense assets, air- and sea-borne assault teams, command-and-control (C2) posts, etc. The launch vehicle (LV) features an automated laying/fire control system that allows establishing of information and technical interface between the LV and the C2 post; transmitting/receiving of information in automatic mode at high speeds and its visual displaying on the computer screen; laying of the launching tubes from inside the crew cabin; determining of LV position through the medium of satellite navigation hardware.

    The Smerch MLRS system can use rockets equipped with several types of warheads, including fragmentation sub-munition, anti-tank (AT) mine cluster, high-explosive fragmentation (HE-Frag), thermobaric, HE penetrating, shaped-charged fragmentation, and sensor-fuzed sub-munitions ones. According to the specifications, Smerch has a caliber of 300 mm, a firing range of 25-90 km, a full salvo time of 40 seconds, a time required to change the LV from travel to combat position (and vice versa) of 3 minutes, a maximum road speed of 60 km/h, a cruising range of 850 km, a full weight of 43,700 kg, and a crew of three servicemen. The LV is armed with 12 launching tubes. Rosoboronexport also offers a lightened truck-based variant of the Smerch system that features six launching tubes. It features the similar specifications, while having a full salvo time of 20 seconds, a maximum road speed of 90 km/h, a cruising range of 1,000 km, a full weight of 23,570 kg or 24,650 kg (depending on the type of container), and a crew of two servicemen. The presence of two modifications of the Smerch MLRS systems in the Rosoboronexport's catalogue allows meeting almost all types of requirements for modern rocket artillery.


    Tordano-G latest generation of BM-21 122mm MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System)

    The company also offers the proven and reliable 122 mm Grad MLRS system that is believed to be one the most effective rocket weapons in the world. Grad is intended for engaging enemy`s manpower, soft-skin targets, light armoured vehicles, artillery/rocket artillery/mortar batteries, C2 posts, ammunition depots, etc.

    The Grad LV features an automated laying and fire control system that allows firing from an unsurveyed position; laying of the launching tubes from inside the crew cabin and without using the aiming points; reducing of time of staying on firing position; preparing initial firing data. According to Rosoboronexport`s catalogue, Grad has a maximum firing range of 40 km, a full salvo time of 20 seconds, a full weight of 15,020 kg, and a crew of two servicemen. The system features 40 launching tubes. Grad can be based on the Ural wheeled trucks.


    2S19 MSTA-S 152mm self-propelled howitzer

    The company also pays a significant attention to the promoting of Russian-originated self-propelled artillery on the global arms market. The 152 mm Msta-S self-propelled gun (SPG) remains the central piece of Rosoboronexport`s SP barrel artillery portfolio. The SPG features an automated laying and fire control system, that allows displaying the information for vehicle`s crew, processing the individual corrections introduced by commander, storing the received information in memory, calculating initial firing data in indirect firing mode, etc. Msta-S is intended for the engaging of enemy`s manpower, weapon systems, and other types military hardware. According to the specifications, the SPG has a firing range of 6-29 km, an ammunition load of 50 rounds, a firing rate of 8 rounds per minute, an elevation angle between -3° and +68°, a traverse angle of 360°, a maximum speed of 60 km/h, a cruising range of 500 km, a weight of 42 t, and a crew of five servicemen. Msta-S can cross a trench of 2.8 m and a vertical obstacle of 0.5 m.

    Rosoboronexport also offers the upgraded Akatsiya SPG to potential foreign customers. The self-propelled gun is equipped with an automated laying and fire control system. Akatsiya is intended for engaging enemy`s manpower and military hardware. According to the specifications, the SPG has a firing range of 4.2-20.5 km, a firing rate of 4 rounds per minute, an elevation angle between -4° and +60°, a traverse angle of 360°, an ammunition load of 46 rounds, a weight of 27.5 t, and a crew of four servicemen.


    2S31 Vena 120mm self-propelled mortar carrier on tracked armoured.

    The 2S31 Vena SPG is intended for engaging enemy`s manpower, hardware, C2 posts, and armoured vehicles. The self-propelled gun allow quick fire concentration to engage selected targets. Vena features a high level of the gun automation, enhanced performance of the integrated equipment, and the increased reliability of communications systems.

    The 2S31 SPG is equipped with a 120 mm gun, HE rounds of which do not fall short of their 122 mm or 152 mm analogues in terms of effective area. The gun also features a high accuracy of fire. According to the specifications, Vena has a firing range of 0.4-13 km, a firing rate of eight to 10 rounds per minute, an ammunition load of 70 rounds, an elevation angle between -4° and +80°, a traverse angle of 360°, a maximum speed of 70 km/h, a cruising range of 600 km, a weight of 19.5 t, and a crew of four servicemen. In initial configuration, the SPG is based on the chassis of the BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle (IFV).


    Nona-SVK 120mm wheeled self-propelled mortar carrier

    Rosoboronexport offers the 120 mm Nona-SVK SPG to potential foreign customers. It is designed to destroy and suppress enemy`s manpower, artillery and mortar batteries, armoured targets, C2 posts, etc. The system features a 120 mm breech-loading rifled gun installed in a welded turret that is mounted on the chassis of the BTR-80 vehicle. It can deliver both direct and direct fire by artillery projectiles and mortar shells. According to the specifications, Nona-SVK has a firing range of 0.48-12.5 km, a firing rate of 10 rounds per minute, an elevation angle between -4° and +80°, an ammunition load of 30 rounds, a weight of 14.5 t, and a crew of four servicemen.

    Russia`s company promotes a range of towed artillery platforms that have retained their combat effectiveness in the SPG and MLRS era. Towed gun seems to be a relatively inexpensive and cost-effective approach to the increasing of infantry units` firepower capabilities.


    D-30A 122mm towed howitzer

    The 122 mm D-30A howitzeris an updated variant of the world-known D-30. The D-30A is intended for destroying and suppressing of enemy`s manpower, hardware, engineering installations, engaging enemy`s artillery and mechanized units, and breaching the minefields and barbed wire-protected areas.

    The howitzer is complemented by a three-frame carriage that enables all-around firing. According to the specifications, D-30A has a firing range of 4-15.3 km, a firing rate of six to eight rounds per minute, an elevation angle between -7° and +70°, a traverse angle of 360°, a weight of 3,200 kg (in combat position), and a crew of six servicemen.


    Nona-K 120mm towed howitzer

    Rosoboronexport offers the 120 mm Nona-K towed gun that is intended for engaging of enemy`s manpower and military hardware in the nearest tactical area. The combined breech-loading rifled gun can deliver both direct and indirect fire. It can fire both artillery projectiles and mortar shells. The gun`s barrel features a muzzle brake, unlike the self-propelled variant. According to the specifications, the Nona-K towed gun has a maximum firing range of 8.8 km (for artillery projectiles) or 7.1 km (for mortar shells), an elevation angle between -10° and +80°, a traverse angle between -30° and +30°, a firing rate of eight rounds per minute, an ammunition load of 60 rounds, a weight of 1.2 t, and a crew of five servicemen. It can be towed by a UAZ-469 all-terrain car or similar utility vehicles.

    Russia`s company also promotes the Nona-M1 towed rifled semi-automatic breech-loading mortar. It is intended for engaging enemy`s manpower, materiel, mortar batteries, engineering installations and for providing of fire support to motorized rifle units. The mortar can be dismantled into four pieces for comfortable carrying or installation on various vehicles. According to the specifications, the Nona-M1 mortar has a caliber of 120 mm, a firing range of 450-12,800 m, a maximum firing rate of nine (for artillery projectiles) or 11 (for mortar shells) rounds per minute, a weight of 507 kg, and a crew of five servicemen.


    Sani 120mm mortar

    Rosoboronexport`s towed mortars portfolio also includes the 120 mm Sani system. It is intended for engaging of enemy`s manpower and military equipment. According to the specifications, the Sani mortar has a firing range of 480-7,100 m, a maximum firing rate of 10 rounds per minute, an elevation angle between 45° and 80°, a traverse angle between -5° and +5° (without bipod relocation) and of 360° (with bipod relocation), a weight of 230 kg (in combat position), and a crew of five servicemen.


    2B14 Podnos 82mm mortar

    The company also offers the 82 mm Podnos muzzle-loaded mortar. It is designed to engage enemy`s manpower and materiel. According to the specifications, the Podnos mortar has a firing range of 0.08-4.02 km, a firing rate of 24 rounds per minute, an elevation angle between 45°and 85°, a traverse angle of 8° (without bipod relocation) and of 360° (with bipod relocation), a weight of 42.6 kg (in combat position), and a crew of five servicemen.


    2S25 Sprut-SD 125mm tracked armoured self-propelled anti-tank gun

    Rosoboronexport promotes the 125 mm Sprut-SD self-propelled anti-tank gun (SPATG). It is intended for destroying of enemy`s tanks, SPGs, armoured personnel carriers (APC), and other mobile and static targets 2S25 Sprut-SD 125mm tracked armoured self-propelled anti-tank gun.

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    Post  d_taddei2 on Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:37 pm

    i am surprised they aren't trying to sell the following: upgraded 2S3, 2A65 "Msta-B towed 152mm, and the 2A36 Giatsint-B 152mm,  and also push the 2S5 Giatsint-S to try and clear stocks of this, i am sure Iraq would probably buy these it wasn't so long ago they bought     D-20 from Russia. The 2S1 is also pretty handy SP artillery and easy to maintain. They could look to clear BM-21 stocks.
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    Re: Russian Gun Artillery: Discussion Thread

    Post  Benya on Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:46 pm

    Over 60 Tornado-G MLRS and 20 Msta-SM howitzers delivered to Russian Army in 2016

    Over 60 Tornado-G multiple-launch rockets systems (MLRS) and more than 20 Msta-SM howitzers have been delivered to the Russian Army in 2016, the service chief, Colonel General Oleg Salyukov, said at the annual session of the Military Council of the Russian Army’s command element.


    Russian Tornado-G Multiple-Launch Rockets Systems

    Two Iskander-M missile system brigade sets, over 60 Tornado-G MLRS and upwards of 20 Msta-SM self-propelled howitzers have been received in 2016," the service chief said. In excess of 70 upgraded Grad-M MLRS have been fielded too, Salyukov added.

    The Iskander-M missile systems is designed for destroying command posts, signal centers, aircraft at airfields, guided missile systems, MLRS and long-range tube artillery at a range of 500 km.

    The Tornado-G is designed to strike exposed and sheltered manpower, armor, field artillery guns, mortars and command posts. The system is two to three times more lethal than the Grad MLRS owing to its enhanced-lethality rockets and automated laying/targeting, survey and navigation systems.

    The mainstay of the firepower of the 2S33 Msta-SM SP howitzer, the antecedent to the cutting-edge 2S35 Koalitsiya SP howitzer, is the 152-mm 2A65 gun with a rate of fire exceeding 10 rounds per minute.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:53 pm

    According to a post by Victor, Russia is supposed to procure something like 700 MLRS systems. So the 60 is a little low in the numbers for the total plan.
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    Post  franco on Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:13 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:According to a post by Victor, Russia is supposed to procure something like 700 MLRS systems.  So the 60 is a little low in the numbers for the total plan.

    Missing a key word... "modernized" MRLS systems. So 60 new and 80 upgraded = 140 modernized. For all artillery fire support weapons 2011-2020 procurement plan is over 2,000 units of which ~700 will be MRLS.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:00 am

    i am surprised they aren't trying to sell the following: upgraded 2S3, 2A65 "Msta-B towed 152mm, and the 2A36 Giatsint-B 152mm, and also push the 2S5 Giatsint-S to try and clear stocks of this, i am sure Iraq would probably buy these it wasn't so long ago they bought D-20 from Russia. The 2S1 is also pretty handy SP artillery and easy to maintain. They could look to clear BM-21 stocks.

    Their best feature is that they have quite a few in stock.

    For Iraq there is no incentive to buy something that is no longer in production and is a dead end in terms of upgrades.

    they will not sell off things that they might have a use for themselves...


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    Post  eehnie on Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:40 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:i am surprised they aren't trying to sell the following: upgraded 2S3, 2A65 "Msta-B towed 152mm, and the 2A36 Giatsint-B 152mm,  and also push the 2S5 Giatsint-S to try and clear stocks of this, i am sure Iraq would probably buy these it wasn't so long ago they bought     D-20 from Russia. The 2S1 is also pretty handy SP artillery and easy to maintain. They could look to clear BM-21 stocks.

    Why would you like to see Russia selling these, if Russia has still less modern and less powerful artillery?

    2B9, ZU-23-2, (M)T-12, 2B16 and D-30 should go first. Russia has several thousands of (M)T-12 and D-30.
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    Post  George1 on Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:54 pm

    82-mm mortar carrier 2S41







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    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:15 am

    With English subtitles, the KOALITSYA program on Voyenaya Priomka:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5b8_1460261581

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    Post  volna on Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:14 am

    George1 wrote:82-mm mortar carrier 2S41



    Very interesting!
    And what is the upper left one?
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:25 am

    82-mm mortar carrier 2S41

    Very nice... for the light wheeled units a Tigr based 82mm auto mortar vehicle would be a very powerful vehicle able to deliver direct and indirect fire rapidly.

    I would suspect any Typhoon version will be heavier and more likely have a 120mm gun/mortar based system but equally it could have an 82mm based system too to increase ready to use ammo and keep the weight light and mobile.

    The Armata and Boomerang and Kurganets however will certainly have 120mm calibre weapons for the extra range and hitting power...

    Note the second picture you posted has the 120mm gun/mortar mounted on a wheeled vehicle chassis with external gun mount... the Kurganets, Armata, and Boomerang will likely have fully automated unmanned turrets with 120mm guns and auto ammo feeds. The bulk of the ammo feeds and size of the rounds will make the 82mm calibre of the Tigr/typhoon weight class more sensible as more ready to use rounds could be carried.

    And what is the upper left one?

    Looks like a 57mm gun armed IFV, though the tracked vehicle chassis could be a BMD-4 or a Kurganets model...

    The rear hull appearing to have roof hatches for troop compartment...


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    Post  eehnie on Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:39 am

    volna wrote:
    George1 wrote:82-mm mortar carrier 2S41



    Very interesting!
    And what is the upper left one?

    Up seems to be something based on the BMP-3, and the armoured truck with external 120mm mortar that is the second picture. There is more info about this project in this topic in the page 8.


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    Post  eehnie on Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:55 am

    George1 wrote:82-mm mortar carrier 2S41


    Surely no-one of the three will be finally adopted by the Russian Armed Forces. Like the project of the truck with external mortar of 120mm this project seems more for export, than for the Russian Armed Forces. In my view also seems below the current standards for the Russian Armed Forces.

    For me would be far behind the project of 120mm based on the new BMD-4M platform. Even I like more the current 2S23 and 2S9.

    This project with 82mm looks like the initial Zauralets-D mounted on a Tigr, but then it was a 120mm mortar if I'm not wrong. This one:

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    Post  eehnie on Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:45 am

    Recently it has been a use of land weapons that originally have been anti-aircraft, for land roles. The most recent examples of it have been:

    57mm: S-60
    14.5mm: ZPU-1/2/4
    23 mm: ZU-23-2

    The war means the end of these weapons in Russia. These weapons can be exhausted in Russia by the needs of the war in Syria. Some people see it as a problem for Russia, begin to think which weapons can succeed to them?

    Looking at the Russian arsenals in overall terms, I see not it as a problem, Russia has the necessary to move forward by two ways, self-propelled and portable/man-portable, with improvements over the heavy towed weapons in both cases.

    The alone land weapons of this type remaining in the Russian Army are all self propelled weapons, the oldest and most obvious case still present in the Russian arsenals would be:

    23mm: ZSU-23-4

    But also there are more weapons present today in the Russian Armed Forces that can give this same step, from anti-aircraft weapons to land roles, and have the advantage of being possible the use as portable/man-portable weapons. If available, not sure in all the cases, the use of these weapons for land roles would mean an improvement over the heavy towed weapons used until now. From older to newer, by year of end of production:

    23mm: R-23 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikhter_R-23 ///// https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0-23_(%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B0)
    23mm: AM-23 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afanasev_Makarov_AM-23 ///// https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%9C-23
    30mm: NR-30 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudelman-Rikhter_NR-30 ///// https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%A0-30
    23mm: GSh-23 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gryazev-Shipunov_GSh-23 ///// https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%A8-23

    Cheking the links to the Russian wikipedia is possible to see in which aircrafts have been used these weapons. The last and most modern would be available for sure today, and is in production still (for the Yak-130), like the rest of the weapons of the GSh-23 (23mm) and GSh-30 (30mm) families of weapons.
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    Post  Benya on Fri May 12, 2017 10:34 pm

    Russia to launch production of counter-artillery radar "penicillin" in 2019

    The Ruselectronics Group, part of Russia’s Rostec state hi-tech corporation, will launch the serial production of the advanced artillery reconnaissance system Penicillin in 2019, the group’s press office said.The system can locate hostile guns five seconds after a gun shot, the press office added.


    "The state trials of the system are nearing completion. Its serial production is planned to begin in January 2019. The system is being developed by the Vektor Research Institute that is a Ruselectronics Group subsidiary," the press office said.

    The acoustic-thermal artillery reconnaissance system Penicillin is designed to search for the firing positions of guns, mortars and multiple launch rocket systems and the launch sites of air defense and tactical missile systems and adjust friendly artillery fire simultaneously.

    According to the developers, artillery fire is traditionally adjusted by scouts operating on the frontline at the risk of their lives. "Compared to them, the Penicillin can operate at a safe distance from the enemy without an operator in automatic mode, which minimizes the effect of the human factor," the press office said. The system accomplishes combat missions within an area of 25 kilometers (15.5 miles) wide. The system comprises several ground-installed sound receivers and an electro-optical module.

    The Penicillin receives and processes acoustic signals from gun shots (explosions) and transmits information on the place of shell bursts, strike accuracy and the location of weapons. It takes the system less than five seconds to locate a single target

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    I wonder whether regular artillery units (Artillery Brigades) or standard motor rifle units (artillery units of motor rifle brigades/divisions) will receive this new radar.

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    Post  Vann7 on Sun May 14, 2017 3:25 pm

    Very impressive anti artillery system , Penicillin ,another report...


    https://sputniknews.com/military/201705141053601059-penicillin-artillery-system/





    1)Allows for near instantaneous retaliation to enemy artillery
    2)Can detect massive artillery fire 90% of it.  
    3)Contrary to NATO systems ,is not only significantly faster but also Does not reveal its position to anti radiation missiles and enemy fire is totally passive scanner.
    4)it can detect mortars ,or rocket artillery .
    5) Mass production in 2 year


    This is the kind of winning technology Russia needs. In combination with such small
    4x4 wheeled mortar cannon mounted in small jeeps , This could allow Russia military
    to bring forward close to the front line a really massive artillery fire ,in highly mobile units.
    And produce them is very Huge numbers.. good and good. The Russian army in my opinion
    is getting the coolest things of all , even more than airforce and navy or even space forces.
    You have armata T-14, then T-15 ,kurganets ,BMP-3 then all this small very mobile but very lethal artillery , to fight close to the front line ,and then TOS Flame Throwers , Koalitsiya 152mm artillery and iskanders.  Russia army will have the best tanks ,the best infantry vehicles ,best transport ,best artillery and next generation counter artillery. The only thing missing is something comparable to US MGM-140 ATACMS tactical artillery that have 300km range, that could replace Toshka missiles. and that is very simple and cheap , not made to defeat air defenses but instead to bomb terrorist ,and could be mass produced ,to counter NATO 300km MGM-140 ATACMS rocket artillery ballistic missiles.
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    Post  George1 on Sun May 28, 2017 2:32 am

    120-mm self-propelled mortar based on the Tiger-M armored vehicle

    From May 25 to May 27, 2017, the Scientific and Technical Forum "Day of Advanced Technologies of Law Enforcement Agencies" was held at the training ground of the Research Institute "Geodesy" in Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow region. According to the web-resource "Made with Us", in the closed part of the exposition of the forum was shown, among other things, a 120-mm self-propelled mortar based on the armored vehicle "Tiger-M". The developer of this complex is JSC "Central Research Institute" Burevestnik "(part of JSC" NPK "Uralvagonzavod"), the manufacturer - PJSC Motovilikhinskiye Zavody (Perm).



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    Any mention about how it is loaded?

    Would be nice if it had auto loading with no loading crew...


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