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    Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

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    Cyberspec

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    Mi-26TZ Fuel Tanker Version

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:25 am

    Mi-26TZ successfully tested during recent exercise, where it refueled various armoured vehicles on the march...this was the first such exercise in the post Soviet period




    Arrow http://www.aex.ru/news/2011/9/16/88402/

    - Work on the Mi-26TZ started back in 1988
    - First flight of serial machine in 1996
    - It can carry 14000 lt of fuel + 1000 lt of lubricants.

    In the past, the Soviet Army used the Mi-6 in the same role

    Mi-6TZ in East Germany



    interesting old footage showing tank being refueled from a helicopter (start of video)



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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  Pervius on Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:55 pm

    It would be cheaper to put a fuel bladder on a 463L pallet and push it out of the back of a C-130 low on the deck near the tanks. If your Team is good you don't even need parachutes on it.


    A Helicopter flying fuel tank is just about the poorest battle field planning you could come up with. How fast would that chopper get out there? How fast would it take it to get back to a fueling spot?

    I guess if they plan on all their air bases being blown away..it might be handy. But by then Russia wouldn't have control of its airspace and the pilot of that chopper would be flying a suicide mission.


    I think it'll be worthless on the battlefield. Even if Russia pushed forth halfway across America with their Tanks, they wouldn't need that chopper. There'd be enough civilian trucks to commandeer to run fuel. Incognito. Free.

    What's the purpose of this chopper again?
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:49 am

    The benefits of a heli-tanker are obvious IMO.
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  GarryB on Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:52 am

    It would be cheaper to put a fuel bladder on a 463L pallet and push it out of the back of a C-130 low on the deck near the tanks. If your Team is good you don't even need parachutes on it.

    The Russians don't have any C-130s in service... Razz Razz


    Besides a helicopter with the lifting capacity of a C-130 can deliver the same payload, though over shorter distances and lower speeds, but with much better accuracy and lower trauma.

    The Russians know all about pushing loads out of aircraft with parachutes... they invented airborne forces... and before you say some American officer talked about the potential idea in 1917 talk is cheap. The Russians were dropping 10,000 man forces with equipment by aircraft in the early 1930s. After seeing it the Germans and the US and British Started their own airborne force development programs.

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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:32 am

    Mi-26TZ at the just finished exercise Centre 2011


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    Russian flight safety authority Rosaviatsia denies it has any plans to temporarily ground the nation’s fleet of Mil Mi-8T helicopters

    Post  Russian Patriot on Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:27 am



    Russian flight safety authority Rosaviatsia denies it has any plans to temporarily ground the nation’s fleet of Mil Mi-8T helicopters

    11:25 26/10/2011
    MOSCOW, October 26 (RIA Novosti)
    Tags: Mi-17, Mi-8, Rosaviatsia, Moscow, Russia





    Russian flight safety authority Rosaviatsia denies it has any plans to temporarily ground the nation’s fleet of Mil Mi-8T helicopters, the watchdog said on Wednesday following media reports that a ban was being considered.

    The Mi-8 and its updated variant, the Mi-17, is the most widely produced helicopter in history, and hundreds remain in service throughout the world, particularly in Russia and the former Soviet Republics.

    Recent media reports claimed that the Interstate Aviation Committee (MAK), a CIS flight safety authority, had issued a recommendation to the Mil Moscow Helicopter Factory, the design authority for the Mi-8, that the machine should have modifications to protect passengers from parts of the engine which could break up in an accident.

    “There is no discussion of a temporary grounding of the Mi-8,” Rosaviatsia said, and declined further comment.

    RIA Novosti was unable to obtain comment from MAK, or Mil in Moscow.

    The Mi-8 is a utility helicopter often used in passenger transport roles, particularly in Russia’s oil and gas industry and the armed forces.

    http://www.en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20111026/168125578.html
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:07 am

    A grounding of Mi-8s would have a similar effect to grounding all Boeings in the East.

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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  Austin on Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:56 am

    Acording to latest AW&ST , Mi-17 is gaining lots of ground due to its sturdiness , reliability ,payload and cost

    http://www.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=416210762&e=true
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  George1 on Fri May 04, 2012 11:51 pm

    Mi-38 ready for serial production 'soon', with certification in 2015



    Russian Helicopters' Kazan factory is building a third prototype of a new model, the Mil Mi-38, which fits between the 36-passenger Mi-17 and the 82-passenger heavylift Mi-26.

    The aircraft is designed to carry up to 40 passengers with a maximum take-off weight of 15.6t and payload of 6t carried internally or by sling.

    Development has been held up by delays to a new Klimov engine, though this will be powering the third prototype, with Pratt & Whitney power having got the first two aircraft flying for evaluation by Russian Helicopters' Mil design bureau in Moscow.


    http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/mi-38-ready-for-serial-production-soon-with-certification-in-2015-371299/
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  George1 on Sat May 05, 2012 6:09 am

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    Tnx but no

    Post  flamming_python on Tue May 08, 2012 2:25 am

    It's a nice helo - we just don't need it. And if we can't get the Europeans in on its production and so on, we won't find many other people who need it either. Perhaps in 10 years time or so, if we can find a lot of common components with our other helicopter projects, incorporate more composite and high-tech materials into its design and raise its capabilities to the point where it would offer a significant improvement over the Mi-8 series, at a decent enough value.
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  GarryB on Tue May 08, 2012 8:56 am

    7 ton external load capacity is better than the 4 ton external load capacity of the Mi-8/-17.

    And it is cleared to have an operational ceiling much higher than the Mi-8/-17 series too.

    It is a step into higher quality as well as higher performance, though I agree that the Mi-17 is still very useful and is still selling very well.

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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  Austin on Tue May 08, 2012 9:00 am

    I think Mi-38 is at its beginning of life and Mi-8/17 at the end of its design optimisation , right now it might look like Mi-17 variants are close to Mi-38 parameters but the gap will grow when Mi-38 starts to evolve like Mi-8 did and then Mi-38 will start getting better.
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  TR1 on Wed May 23, 2012 8:00 pm

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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  George1 on Thu May 24, 2012 8:31 pm

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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  Sujoy on Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:42 pm

    VOICE OF RUSSIA

    Pentagon to buy 12 more Russian MI-17s

    The Pentagon has told the U.S. Congress about its decision to buy 12 additional Mi-17 helicopters from the Russian company "Rosboroneksport" for the Afghan army.

    The transaction’s amount is estimated at being worth $218 million.

    Earlier this year the Pentagon ordered 12 helicopters from the Russian company.

    According to the authorities, the Mi-17 is cheaper than American counterparts and easier to teach Afghan pilots to fly.
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    Mi-8 first flight 50 years ago!

    Post  TR1 on Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:13 am

    http://www.armstass.su/?page=article&aid=109160&cid=25

    50 years ago the Mi-8 first flew!
    Hurrah!
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:37 am

    The Magnificant 8: A great review in 2 parts of the Mi-8 by "Wing of Russia"



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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  flamming_python on Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:40 pm

    Another legendary design of Russian engineering that has literaly served across generations. Huzzah!
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  GarryB on Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:36 am

    Awesome workhorse that spawned the Mi-24 family and ultimately the Mi-28 family and also of course the Mi-9, Mi-17, and of course the boat hulled Mi-14 family.

    The most produced military helo in the world!

    (and thanks for the vids)


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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  Dima on Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:05 pm

    Thanks for the links guys.

    I wish the Mi-38 also have a great future.
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  George1 on Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:38 am

    More helos in grey. I like this color!!

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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:13 pm

    It is sobering to see the five blade tail rotor of the Mi-26... as a general rule of thumb about 15% of engine power is diverted to the tail rotor on a conventional helicopter equipped with a tail rotor, so with two 11.5K hp engines that means that just under 3,500hp is going through the tail rotor of the Mi-26... which is more than a very early model Mi-8 has from both engines going through its main rotor!


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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:16 am

    The 7th Mi-26 produced in 2012 has flown...there's a few interesting videos also on the below page

    Arrow http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/26432/
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    Re: Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

    Post  medo on Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:11 am

    Cyberspec wrote:The 7th Mi-26 produced in 2012 has flown...there's a few interesting videos also on the below page

    Arrow http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/26432/

    Good news. Vn ten years they built 20 Mi-26 helicopters for the army.

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