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French Navy: News
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More evidence of the extinction of carriers: program for a new 75 kt CVN for France announced
LMFS Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:50 am
More evidence of the extinction of carriers: program for a new 75 kt CVN for France announced
https://twitter.com/florence_parly/status/1336354119599140871
https://twitter.com/florence_parly/status/1336354119599140871
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Tsavo Lion wrote:They want a CVN: https://news.yahoo.com/frances-next-generation-aircraft-carrier-164947235.html
It will enter the French Navy in 2038 to replace the Charles de Gaulle.
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It'll have 3 screws, just in case 1-2 fail, as happened in the Caribbean:
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Well... nuclear powered, 75K tons, EMALS cat system, and CTOL fighters... that sounds familiar... and sensible...
Except for Russia their Su-57 aircraft would have better range and stealth than a Rafale...
Except for Russia their Su-57 aircraft would have better range and stealth than a Rafale...
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If only 1 is built, from the deployment perspective it won't be much better than the UK having 2 CVs. Therefore, they may keep C. de G. longer, if not selling it to Brazil or India.
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French Rubis class nuclear submarine "Perle" sent to Cherbourg for repair
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4208982.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4208982.html
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If only 1 is built, from the deployment perspective it won't be much better than the UK having 2 CVs. Therefore, they may keep C. de G. longer, if not selling it to Brazil or India.
I would guess it would depend on the condition of CdG, but building two carriers... staggered to spread out the cost and the work for the shipyards involved would be the best idea with a sale of the CdG to offset some of the cost of the new second carrier.
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France signed an agreement for the purchase of three AWACS aircraft E-2D Advanced Hawkeye
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4232743.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4232743.html
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Just looking at the carrier design again... I find it interesting they have gone for a single island tower design.
At the moment the British carriers have two islands with two towers where the two separate roles of the tower or island are separated out with the rear tower dedicated to air operations and managing landing and taking off of all aircraft on the deck, while the front tower is dedicated to managing navigating and sailing the ship around the place.
The new French design seems to have recombined the two towers back to one and a very small and compact one at that...
Interesting.
At the moment the British carriers have two islands with two towers where the two separate roles of the tower or island are separated out with the rear tower dedicated to air operations and managing landing and taking off of all aircraft on the deck, while the front tower is dedicated to managing navigating and sailing the ship around the place.
The new French design seems to have recombined the two towers back to one and a very small and compact one at that...
Interesting.
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GarryB wrote:Just looking at the carrier design again... I find it interesting they have gone for a single island tower design.
At the moment the British carriers have two islands with two towers where the two separate roles of the tower or island are separated out with the rear tower dedicated to air operations and managing landing and taking off of all aircraft on the deck, while the front tower is dedicated to managing navigating and sailing the ship around the place.
The new French design seems to have recombined the two towers back to one and a very small and compact one at that...
Interesting.
Two towers take away the space on te flight deck and you need no 2nd tower since most technology needs no visual contact, you can implement those in the hull of the vessel.
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France intends to significantly update the underwater component of the Republic's naval forces. Defense Minister Florence Parley said in an interview with Le Figaro that the development of new third-generation nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) has begun.
https://en.topwar.ru/180121-francija-nachala-razrabotku-novogo-pokolenija-atomnyh-podvodnyh-raketonoscev.html
https://en.topwar.ru/180121-francija-nachala-razrabotku-novogo-pokolenija-atomnyh-podvodnyh-raketonoscev.html
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Tests of the layout of a promising French nuclear aircraft carrier developed by the French nuclear industrial corporation Framatome in Le Creusot under the Porte Avion Nouvelle Generation (PANG) program. Tests of the mock-up on the water make it possible to refine the mathematical calculations and correct the shape of the ship's hull, which will improve its seaworthiness. It will also allow modeling the propellers of the future aircraft carrier.
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http://www.opex360.com/2021/07/24/faute-de-budget-les-futures-fregates-de-la-marine-auront-des-moyens-de-guerre-electronique-limites-jusquen-2026/
Future frigates for the french navy won't be fitted with EW systems neither cruise missiles even if there is space for A70 vls because of lack of money.
They will have to wait their modernization.
Future frigates for the french navy won't be fitted with EW systems neither cruise missiles even if there is space for A70 vls because of lack of money.
They will have to wait their modernization.
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Future frigates for the french navy won't be fitted with EW systems neither cruise missiles even if there is space for A70 vls because of lack of money.
Times are tough...
BTW those model planes on those carrier mockups... it looks like that Tempest 5th gen fighter... it clearly isn't the F-35 because it clearly has two engines... is there any chance of France joining the Tempest programme or are they going to have a parallel programme to produce something similar like the Rafale/Typhoon situation...
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It looks like Etendard on steroids to me 
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That's the FCAS (if it sees the daylight).
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Might save some money if it was LTS... 
Imagine a French version... sad that such a thing would be impossible because the emperors of France live in Washington and have holiday houses in Brussels and Berlin...
Imagine a French version... sad that such a thing would be impossible because the emperors of France live in Washington and have holiday houses in Brussels and Berlin...
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Naval Group lays the keel of the first FDI Frigate for the French Navy
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/12/naval-group-lays-the-keel-of-the-first-fdi-frigate-for-the-french-navy/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/12/naval-group-lays-the-keel-of-the-first-fdi-frigate-for-the-french-navy/
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Launched the lead ship of integrated supply of the BRF type for the French Navy
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https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/euronaval-2022/2022/10/euronaval-2022-latest-pang-aircraft-carrier-design-breaks-cover/
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Launched lead French frigate FDI
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4609536.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4609536.html
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This ship is beautiful.
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Older designs were much better than new stealthy fency ones.
Nothing beats a Slava design.
Nothing beats a Slava design.
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