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Tu-95MS "Bear"
Austin- Posts : 7617
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KH-101/102 on Tu-95MS , its got some interesting shapes even viewed from bottom.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6416/154814723.6/0_7f83c_5a7056df_orig
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6416/154814723.6/0_7f83c_5a7056df_orig
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Are Russian Bombers Flying Nuclear Drills Near Europe—Or Just Testing NATO’s Defenses?
Nuclear-capable Russian bombers are flying over the North Sea and the Atlantic. And U.S. Air Force officers are very concerned at what could be a rehearsal of a deadly mission.
Russian bombers may be flying nuclear strike drills over the Atlantic Ocean and North Sea, current and former U.S. Air Force officers believe. At the very least, these officers tell The Daily Beast, the Russian Air Force is aggressively probing what NATO calls European airspace in an effort to gauge the reaction times of the western alliance’s defenses.
Since Oct. 28, NATO air defenses have detected and monitored four groups of Russian combat aircraft over the Baltic Sea, North Sea, Atlantic Ocean, and Black Sea. Norwegian F-16 fighters intercepted one particular group of Russian aircraft on Oct. 29 that included four, nuclear-capable Tupolev Tu-95 Bear H strategic bombers and four Ilyushin Il-78 aerial refueling tankers. Once intercepted, six of the Russian aircraft headed for home while the two remaining Tu-95 bombers continued southwest, parallel to the Norwegian coast, before eventually turning back towards Russia.
The giant, propeller-driven Tu-95 is a launch platform for the 1,600 nautical mile range Raduga Kh-55 nuclear-tipped cruise missile. The weapon carries a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead; by comparison, the bomb that destroyed Nagasaki was a mere 21 kilotons. Some active-duty and retired U.S. Air Force officials told The Daily Beast that the Tu-95s might have been flying to certain predetermined launch points for their nuclear missiles.
“That could certainly be the case,” said retired Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deptula, the service’s influential former intelligence chief. “It is not farfetched that at some point within the next two years [Russian President Vladimir] Putin makes a more aggressive move in Eastern Europe and uses a nuclear threat to deter a NATO response.”
Of course, every nuclear capable air force runs exercises to practice its so-called “strategic deterrence.” It’s the pace and scale of these current flights that have military observers concerned.
“Our bomber crews regularly fly training sorties for their full range of potential missions, including strategic deterrence practice missions,” Mark Gunzinger, a former B-52 pilot and current air power analyst the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, said. “[The Russian Air Force] has never stopped flying training sorties, but it’s apparent that the scope of this one is catching people’s attention.”
Asked if at least some of these flights were nuclear drills, Gunzinger responded, “that is probably the case.”
The giant, propeller-driven Tu-95 is a launch platform for the Raduga Kh-55 nuclear-tipped cruise missile, which carries a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead. By comparison, the bomb that destroyed Nagasaki was a mere 21 kilotons.
Another former Air Force officer—one with extensive experience with Russian tactics—cautioned not to interpret either the European or Alaskan flights too darkly. “A probe to test western responses, yes,” the former officer wrote in an email. “More activity than in the recent past, yes. Nuclear strike rehearsal, unlikely. Capabilities are easy to measure. Intent is not.”
Analyst Rebecca Grant, president of IRIS Independent Research, said that the recent display of Russian air power was just another provocation in a long line of similar antagonistic moves by Russia. The Russian strategic bomber foray into the Atlantic is also reminiscent of a September incident where two nuclear-capable Tu-95s bombers, two Il-78 tankers and two MiG-31 Foxhound fighters were intercepted near Alaska.
“This reminds me of the exercises Russia has been flying in the Pacific for a few years now, just transferred to the European theater,” Grant said. “I don’t read this as a specific nuclear or conventional scenario practice, rather an exercise in long-range navigation and provocation. It’s clearly designed to annoy NATO but from a purely tactical perspective, this was still a pretty small display of airpower.”
Another former Air Force F-4G and F-15E electronic warfare officer said that there simply is not enough information to be certain of what the Russians’ intentions are. “It could be anything,” said Michael Pietrucha. “There’s nothing wrong with long range training sorties because they allow you to work out the kinks for a variety of missions.”
Nonetheless, the foray into European airspace by the Tu-95 Bear bombers is cause for concern. That’s not just because of the Bear bomber’s long-range nuclear weapons capability, but also because of the Russian’s general disregard for international air traffic norms. Not only did the Russians not file a proper flight plan, they also did not have active transponders—which would allow civilian air traffic controllers to see them. The situation could lead to a serious accident where an airliner might collide with a Russian bomber.
“It’s alarming, especially, that they would fly without their transponder on particularly when they’re certain to fly on or cross an a multitude of international air routes,” one Air Force bomber pilot told the Daily Beast. “The interrogative capability of most modern airline and transport carrier transponders rely on the transmission of other transponders to ensure positive deconfliction.”
The airspace over the Atlantic is especially busy with a lot of airliner traffic. The U.S. bomber pilot acknowledged that the U.S. Air Force also conducts long-range bomber patrols, but American aircraft always follow proper flight procedures and other regulations.
“I’ve flown on the west of Portugal, it was a busy place to fly because a lot of air routes funnel into the Med [Mediterranean] there,” the bomber pilot said. “The U.S. does what are called ‘global power’ missions on occasion, but never without squawking, or talking, or filing flight plans, and we rarely seek to draw an escort.”
In addition to the strategic bomber patrols in the Atlantic, the Russian Air Force also flew another bomber mission over the Black Sea on Oct. 29 with two Tu-95 Bears, which were escorted by two Sukhoi Su-27 air superiority fighters.
The Russian Air Force also flew additional sorties over the Baltic Sea with tactical strike fighters on Oct. 29. Portuguese F-16 fighters assigned to protect the Baltic states—which belong to NATO—intercepted a group of two MiG-31 interceptors, one Su-27 fighter and two pairs of Su-34 and Su-24 fighter bombers. The same group of Russian jets was intercepted on the previous day.
No matter what the intent of the specific flight, the larger goal—a re-introduction of Russian military might into Europe—is clearly working, a senior U.S. military officer told The Daily Beast.
“It certainly demonstrates their effort to re-assert themselves in the region and regain their past form,” this official added. “It appears to be successful, certainly from the standpoint that Russian airpower has re-entered the conversation and our NATO allies have had to respond to their incursions. It strikes me as destabilizing.”
The U.S. Air Force would not officially comment on the matter and deferred all queries to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. The Pentagon did not return calls for comment.
Nuclear-capable Russian bombers are flying over the North Sea and the Atlantic. And U.S. Air Force officers are very concerned at what could be a rehearsal of a deadly mission.
Russian bombers may be flying nuclear strike drills over the Atlantic Ocean and North Sea, current and former U.S. Air Force officers believe. At the very least, these officers tell The Daily Beast, the Russian Air Force is aggressively probing what NATO calls European airspace in an effort to gauge the reaction times of the western alliance’s defenses.
Since Oct. 28, NATO air defenses have detected and monitored four groups of Russian combat aircraft over the Baltic Sea, North Sea, Atlantic Ocean, and Black Sea. Norwegian F-16 fighters intercepted one particular group of Russian aircraft on Oct. 29 that included four, nuclear-capable Tupolev Tu-95 Bear H strategic bombers and four Ilyushin Il-78 aerial refueling tankers. Once intercepted, six of the Russian aircraft headed for home while the two remaining Tu-95 bombers continued southwest, parallel to the Norwegian coast, before eventually turning back towards Russia.
The giant, propeller-driven Tu-95 is a launch platform for the 1,600 nautical mile range Raduga Kh-55 nuclear-tipped cruise missile. The weapon carries a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead; by comparison, the bomb that destroyed Nagasaki was a mere 21 kilotons. Some active-duty and retired U.S. Air Force officials told The Daily Beast that the Tu-95s might have been flying to certain predetermined launch points for their nuclear missiles.
“That could certainly be the case,” said retired Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deptula, the service’s influential former intelligence chief. “It is not farfetched that at some point within the next two years [Russian President Vladimir] Putin makes a more aggressive move in Eastern Europe and uses a nuclear threat to deter a NATO response.”
Of course, every nuclear capable air force runs exercises to practice its so-called “strategic deterrence.” It’s the pace and scale of these current flights that have military observers concerned.
“Our bomber crews regularly fly training sorties for their full range of potential missions, including strategic deterrence practice missions,” Mark Gunzinger, a former B-52 pilot and current air power analyst the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, said. “[The Russian Air Force] has never stopped flying training sorties, but it’s apparent that the scope of this one is catching people’s attention.”
Asked if at least some of these flights were nuclear drills, Gunzinger responded, “that is probably the case.”
The giant, propeller-driven Tu-95 is a launch platform for the Raduga Kh-55 nuclear-tipped cruise missile, which carries a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead. By comparison, the bomb that destroyed Nagasaki was a mere 21 kilotons.
Another former Air Force officer—one with extensive experience with Russian tactics—cautioned not to interpret either the European or Alaskan flights too darkly. “A probe to test western responses, yes,” the former officer wrote in an email. “More activity than in the recent past, yes. Nuclear strike rehearsal, unlikely. Capabilities are easy to measure. Intent is not.”
Analyst Rebecca Grant, president of IRIS Independent Research, said that the recent display of Russian air power was just another provocation in a long line of similar antagonistic moves by Russia. The Russian strategic bomber foray into the Atlantic is also reminiscent of a September incident where two nuclear-capable Tu-95s bombers, two Il-78 tankers and two MiG-31 Foxhound fighters were intercepted near Alaska.
“This reminds me of the exercises Russia has been flying in the Pacific for a few years now, just transferred to the European theater,” Grant said. “I don’t read this as a specific nuclear or conventional scenario practice, rather an exercise in long-range navigation and provocation. It’s clearly designed to annoy NATO but from a purely tactical perspective, this was still a pretty small display of airpower.”
Another former Air Force F-4G and F-15E electronic warfare officer said that there simply is not enough information to be certain of what the Russians’ intentions are. “It could be anything,” said Michael Pietrucha. “There’s nothing wrong with long range training sorties because they allow you to work out the kinks for a variety of missions.”
Nonetheless, the foray into European airspace by the Tu-95 Bear bombers is cause for concern. That’s not just because of the Bear bomber’s long-range nuclear weapons capability, but also because of the Russian’s general disregard for international air traffic norms. Not only did the Russians not file a proper flight plan, they also did not have active transponders—which would allow civilian air traffic controllers to see them. The situation could lead to a serious accident where an airliner might collide with a Russian bomber.
“It’s alarming, especially, that they would fly without their transponder on particularly when they’re certain to fly on or cross an a multitude of international air routes,” one Air Force bomber pilot told the Daily Beast. “The interrogative capability of most modern airline and transport carrier transponders rely on the transmission of other transponders to ensure positive deconfliction.”
The airspace over the Atlantic is especially busy with a lot of airliner traffic. The U.S. bomber pilot acknowledged that the U.S. Air Force also conducts long-range bomber patrols, but American aircraft always follow proper flight procedures and other regulations.
“I’ve flown on the west of Portugal, it was a busy place to fly because a lot of air routes funnel into the Med [Mediterranean] there,” the bomber pilot said. “The U.S. does what are called ‘global power’ missions on occasion, but never without squawking, or talking, or filing flight plans, and we rarely seek to draw an escort.”
In addition to the strategic bomber patrols in the Atlantic, the Russian Air Force also flew another bomber mission over the Black Sea on Oct. 29 with two Tu-95 Bears, which were escorted by two Sukhoi Su-27 air superiority fighters.
The Russian Air Force also flew additional sorties over the Baltic Sea with tactical strike fighters on Oct. 29. Portuguese F-16 fighters assigned to protect the Baltic states—which belong to NATO—intercepted a group of two MiG-31 interceptors, one Su-27 fighter and two pairs of Su-34 and Su-24 fighter bombers. The same group of Russian jets was intercepted on the previous day.
No matter what the intent of the specific flight, the larger goal—a re-introduction of Russian military might into Europe—is clearly working, a senior U.S. military officer told The Daily Beast.
“It certainly demonstrates their effort to re-assert themselves in the region and regain their past form,” this official added. “It appears to be successful, certainly from the standpoint that Russian airpower has re-entered the conversation and our NATO allies have had to respond to their incursions. It strikes me as destabilizing.”
The U.S. Air Force would not officially comment on the matter and deferred all queries to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. The Pentagon did not return calls for comment.
Big_Gazza- Posts : 4651
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Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
George1 wrote:Are Russian Bombers Flying Nuclear Drills Near Europe—Or Just Testing NATO’s Defenses?
aggressively... provocation... antagonistic.... destabilizing....
/yawn... Do the bought-and-paid presstitute trolls of the Anglo-Amerikan Reich-Wing media ever tire when writing this biased one-eyed trash?
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Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
Yeah... Tu-95s running training missions in international airspace are aggressive, but US M1 Abrams tanks in the baltic states... formerly part of the Soviet Union itself is defensive...
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Modernized Tu-95
Modernized Tu-95
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Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
Russia's Defense Ministry has received another bomber Tu-95MS
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Modernized Tu-95MS in Engels
On the web-site appeared russianplanes.net, Photo famous combatant strategic bomber Tu-95MS (tail number "red 10" registration number RF-94128, the name "Saratov") the Russian Air Force, equipped with highly visible new four double nodes external suspension to accommodate strategic cruise missiles, air-launched a new type. This is the first picture of the modernized Tu-95MS bombers equipped to carry the new cruise missiles, in Engels stationed there as part of the aviation group Air Base Command of long-range aviation.
On the web-site appeared russianplanes.net, Photo famous combatant strategic bomber Tu-95MS (tail number "red 10" registration number RF-94128, the name "Saratov") the Russian Air Force, equipped with highly visible new four double nodes external suspension to accommodate strategic cruise missiles, air-launched a new type. This is the first picture of the modernized Tu-95MS bombers equipped to carry the new cruise missiles, in Engels stationed there as part of the aviation group Air Base Command of long-range aviation.
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Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
Sergey Shoygu: Russia to expand patrol areas of strategic bombers
Russian Aviaton » Wednesday March 11, 2015 16:59 MSK
Russian strategic bombers to start patrolling new areas in the network of cooperation with allies, TASS reports with reference to Russian Minister of Defense General of the Army Sergey Shoygu.
The minister reminded that Russian aircraft are constantly on duty and protecting the state borders in different regions.
“I must admit that the flights are performed on regular basis and we are not going to change that,” the minister stated.
“In future we are going to start patrolling new areas under agreements with our allies in other countries of the world,” Shoygu added.
He reminded that in February Tu-95MS strategic bombers performed flights above Barents Sea and Norwegian Sea as well as northeast part of the Atlantic. In particular, the aircraft performed aerial refueling. It was reported earlier that during this flight British Typhoon fighters escorted the Russian bombers.
Russian Aviaton » Wednesday March 11, 2015 16:59 MSK
Russian strategic bombers to start patrolling new areas in the network of cooperation with allies, TASS reports with reference to Russian Minister of Defense General of the Army Sergey Shoygu.
The minister reminded that Russian aircraft are constantly on duty and protecting the state borders in different regions.
“I must admit that the flights are performed on regular basis and we are not going to change that,” the minister stated.
“In future we are going to start patrolling new areas under agreements with our allies in other countries of the world,” Shoygu added.
He reminded that in February Tu-95MS strategic bombers performed flights above Barents Sea and Norwegian Sea as well as northeast part of the Atlantic. In particular, the aircraft performed aerial refueling. It was reported earlier that during this flight British Typhoon fighters escorted the Russian bombers.
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pictures taken by me at Zhuliany Ukraine last year (May 2014). the weather turn to rain and it became dull hence some of the pics its seems darker.
I do have loads more pics, and i am away to North Korea in August for 2 weeks, but i highly doubt i will get a chance/be allowed to take pics of military items but you never know Wink
link below for the thread
https://www.russiadefence.net/t3372-my-pics-and-vids
I do have loads more pics, and i am away to North Korea in August for 2 weeks, but i highly doubt i will get a chance/be allowed to take pics of military items but you never know Wink
link below for the thread
https://www.russiadefence.net/t3372-my-pics-and-vids
Last edited by d_taddei2 on Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:43 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : adding link)
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Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
Be careful in NK... remember some border officials have no sense of humour... don't test them...
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x2.GarryB wrote:Be careful in NK... remember some border officials have no sense of humour... don't test them...
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Tell the Great Leader that he's a douche.
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GarryB wrote:Be careful in NK... remember some border officials have no sense of humour... don't test them...
It was a joke, i ain't stupid, ive been to Tajikistan including Gorno-Badakhshan Autonomous Region, Uzbekistan, Somaliland, Transnistria and was in Donetsk when the war kicked off even spoke to separatists and took part in a pro Russian march outside a police station, and went to Crimea a week after it became a part of Russia, and guess what? i never got into any trouble.
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- Post n°30
Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
According to the news, It's tu-95 not pakfa.
Still epic "Happy 4th of july" message btw.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/06/officials-us-jets-scramble-to-intercept-russian-bombers-off-california-alaska/
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-bombers-intercepted-off-us-coast-2015-7
http://abcnews.go.com/International/russian-bombers-fly-us-july-4th/story?id=32256983
Still epic "Happy 4th of july" message btw.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/06/officials-us-jets-scramble-to-intercept-russian-bombers-off-california-alaska/
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-bombers-intercepted-off-us-coast-2015-7
http://abcnews.go.com/International/russian-bombers-fly-us-july-4th/story?id=32256983
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Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
Indeed, after verification it seems to be TU-95 and not PAK-FA, nevertheless US used to lie in this kind of incidents. But let's say that in this time they seems to be right, untill...we discover the truth.zepia wrote:According to the news, It's tu-95 not pakfa.
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Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
Russia have more Accidents with military and planes that all other world nations combined..
today ANOTHER.. yes ANother plane crash.. this time a TU-95 bear.. lets see this year alone..
and in many of them with casualties on the pilots..
http://rt.com/news/273520-tu95-bomber-crash-russia/
IF this is a case of the world Major incompetence ever seen ?
It looks like Russia have lost more planes than Ukraine since early 2014 ,and Russia is not at war. My bet this have to do with the Terrible state of Russia defense Industry ,when it comes
to quality controls.. A revolution will be required ,reorganization . This is not embarrassing..
this already surpassed anything unthinkable.. and this is not counting the casualties on soldiers
on the ground.. that they are neither safe.. buildings also collapse.. Im just without words..
Something needs to change and people kicked , turn the whole defense industry in a very profitable agency ,where people are paid well ,so they do a better job.. perhaps reduce the size
of the army ,navy and airforce and have a smaller one but better paid soldiers and mechanics ,with modern facilities..
When the next crash will be? can we hope to get a full month without an accident in Russia?
in the military ?what you think? because it seems as if every 2-3 weeks someone is killed or
have an accident in the armed forces in Russia.
today ANOTHER.. yes ANother plane crash.. this time a TU-95 bear.. lets see this year alone..
and in many of them with casualties on the pilots..
Su-24 in Khabarovsk region 6th of July 2015
MIG29 in Krasnodar region 3rd of July 2015
MIG29 in Astrakhan region 4th of
June 2015
Su 34 in Voronezh region 4th of June 2015
Tu-95 in Amur region 8th of June 2015
and now this
Tu 95 today....
http://rt.com/news/273520-tu95-bomber-crash-russia/
IF this is a case of the world Major incompetence ever seen ?
It looks like Russia have lost more planes than Ukraine since early 2014 ,and Russia is not at war. My bet this have to do with the Terrible state of Russia defense Industry ,when it comes
to quality controls.. A revolution will be required ,reorganization . This is not embarrassing..
this already surpassed anything unthinkable.. and this is not counting the casualties on soldiers
on the ground.. that they are neither safe.. buildings also collapse.. Im just without words..
Something needs to change and people kicked , turn the whole defense industry in a very profitable agency ,where people are paid well ,so they do a better job.. perhaps reduce the size
of the army ,navy and airforce and have a smaller one but better paid soldiers and mechanics ,with modern facilities..
When the next crash will be? can we hope to get a full month without an accident in Russia?
in the military ?what you think? because it seems as if every 2-3 weeks someone is killed or
have an accident in the armed forces in Russia.
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Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
Vann7 wrote:Russia have more Accidents with military and planes that all other world nations combined..
Oh really?
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Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
Vann7 wrote:Russia have more Accidents with military and planes that all other world nations combined..
today ANOTHER.. yes ANother plane crash.. this time a TU-95 bear.. lets see this year alone..
and in many of them with casualties on the pilots..
Su-24 in Khabarovsk region 6th of July 2015
MIG29 in Krasnodar region 3rd of July 2015
MIG29 in Astrakhan region 4th of
June 2015
Su 34 in Voronezh region 4th of June 2015
Tu-95 in Amur region 8th of June 2015
and now this
Tu 95 today....
http://rt.com/news/273520-tu95-bomber-crash-russia/
IF this is a case of the world Major incompetence ever seen ?
It looks like Russia have lost more planes than Ukraine since early 2014 ,and Russia is not at war. My bet this have to do with the Terrible state of Russia defense Industry ,when it comes
to quality controls.. A revolution will be required ,reorganization . This is not embarrassing..
this already surpassed anything unthinkable.. and this is not counting the casualties on soldiers
on the ground.. that they are neither safe.. buildings also collapse.. Im just without words..
Something needs to change and people kicked , turn the whole defense industry in a very profitable agency ,where people are paid well ,so they do a better job.. perhaps reduce the size
of the army ,navy and airforce and have a smaller one but better paid soldiers and mechanics ,with modern facilities..
When the next crash will be? can we hope to get a full month without an accident in Russia?
in the military ?what you think? because it seems as if every 2-3 weeks someone is killed or
have an accident in the armed forces in Russia.
Regarding the recent TU crash: it's pretty remote that all four engines would fail at the same time, regardless of who the manufacturer is. Speculation on my part, but this could be the result of poor-quality fuel. I heard the entire crew bailed out, any news on their condition?
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"However, according to a TASS source, “Preliminary data shows that a fuel valve collapsed and as a result all four engines failed.” -RT News
Ah, there it is.
Ah, there it is.
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Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
Here you areHonesroc wrote:Vann7 wrote:Russia have more Accidents with military and planes that all other world nations combined..
today ANOTHER.. yes ANother plane crash.. this time a TU-95 bear.. lets see this year alone..
and in many of them with casualties on the pilots..
Su-24 in Khabarovsk region 6th of July 2015
MIG29 in Krasnodar region 3rd of July 2015
MIG29 in Astrakhan region 4th of
June 2015
Su 34 in Voronezh region 4th of June 2015
Tu-95 in Amur region 8th of June 2015
and now this
Tu 95 today....
http://rt.com/news/273520-tu95-bomber-crash-russia/
IF this is a case of the world Major incompetence ever seen ?
It looks like Russia have lost more planes than Ukraine since early 2014 ,and Russia is not at war. My bet this have to do with the Terrible state of Russia defense Industry ,when it comes
to quality controls.. A revolution will be required ,reorganization . This is not embarrassing..
this already surpassed anything unthinkable.. and this is not counting the casualties on soldiers
on the ground.. that they are neither safe.. buildings also collapse.. Im just without words..
Something needs to change and people kicked , turn the whole defense industry in a very profitable agency ,where people are paid well ,so they do a better job.. perhaps reduce the size
of the army ,navy and airforce and have a smaller one but better paid soldiers and mechanics ,with modern facilities..
When the next crash will be? can we hope to get a full month without an accident in Russia?
in the military ?what you think? because it seems as if every 2-3 weeks someone is killed or
have an accident in the armed forces in Russia.
Regarding the recent TU crash: it's pretty remote that all four engines would fail at the same time, regardless of who the manufacturer is. Speculation on my part, but this could be the result of poor-quality fuel. I heard the entire crew bailed out, any news on their condition?
MOSCOW, July 14 /TASS/. Two pilots of Russia's Tu-95MS strategic bomber that crashed in the far eastern Khabarovsk Territory, died, a Russian Defense Ministry source told TASS on Tuesday.
"A search and rescue group of the Eastern Military District has discovered the points of impact of the two crewmen of the Tu-95MS strike aircraft. Both pilots died. Reports from the crash site said the pilots had died while landing," the Russian Defense Ministry said.
It was earlier reported that the other five crewmembers of the aircraft had been delivered to the Khabarovsk aerodrome and their lives and health were not in danger.
The aircraft crashed in the Khabarovsk Territory in the Russian Far East during a training flight on Tuesday morning.
The flight was performed without an ammunition allowance. The plane crashed in a deserted area and there is no destruction on the ground.
Firebird- Posts : 1730
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- Post n°37
Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
Very sad. We had near enough 2 yrs or so without a major post on this thread.
Obviously the RuAF is seeing much higher flight hours these days. Sometimes with outdated planes. Hopefully the replacements with new/updated planes will continue or accelerate even. Ultimately a world power like Russia shouldnt have such a "bad run".
I wonder if the change from cold/mild to hot weather is an issue. Probably yes.
Altho note that America and others also have crashes.
Obviously the RuAF is seeing much higher flight hours these days. Sometimes with outdated planes. Hopefully the replacements with new/updated planes will continue or accelerate even. Ultimately a world power like Russia shouldnt have such a "bad run".
I wonder if the change from cold/mild to hot weather is an issue. Probably yes.
Altho note that America and others also have crashes.
Big_Gazza- Posts : 4651
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Location : Melbourne, Australia
- Post n°38
Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
That sounds bogus. I cannot accept that the fuel supply system on a 4-engined military aircraft would include a single-point-of-failure whose mis-operation would result in total loss of fuel supply. Tankage and flow-lines would be redundant to isolate any single failure to no more than 2 engines.Honesroc wrote:"However, according to a TASS source, “Preliminary data shows that a fuel valve collapsed and as a result all four engines failed.” -RT News
Ah, there it is.
Dirty fuel however is a definite possibility.
Odin of Ossetia- Posts : 878
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- Post n°39
Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
In the last few weeks seven Russian military planes have crashed, including two Tupolev heavy bombers, which are part of Russia's air fleet of the nuclear bomb carriers.
That many planes in such a short period of time? What is going on?
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- Post n°40
Re: Tu-95MS "Bear"
TU95MS arrived at factory "Avicor" in Samara to be overhauled
Source: https://twitter.com/KURYERSAT/status/656507425386840065
Source: https://twitter.com/KURYERSAT/status/656507425386840065
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