Ukrainian language after the SMO

Not sure if this deserves a separate thread.

What do you think should happen to the Ukrainian language after the SMO is successfully concluded?

Should it be suppressed or allowed to exist? Or perhaps even supported (since supporting minority languages is a huge trend worldwide)?

Any thoughts?

It´s not a language, it´s a dialect.

I think that Ukrainian is more real than Ebonics. It emerged over the span of a few centuries and I would not attribute it to political engineering
in the last 150 years. The Rus living to the west of Kiev got colonized and assimilated by Poland and this process extended into the Austro-Hungarian
Empire. Around the turn of the last century was when you had the emergence of Ebonics and Afrocentric style Ukr academia that laid down the
fake history of Ukria. These scumbag academics have been going strong for the last 100 years primarily in the west. The really managed to shape
Ukr identity and effectively in the post 1990 period.

Academics have been key in foisting critical race theory and other degeneracy in the west as we can see with the woke spasm of the last 10 years.
It took them from the end of the WWII, but they succeeded. They are now pushing pedophilia acceptance and the abyss is bottomless with these
vermin.

Banderites will become extinct, so not sure why the dead will need a language....

Ukrainian is recognized as a separate language by academic linguists. It's also recognized as such in Russia since it's one of official languages in Crimea.

Ukrainian and Russian have only 65% lexical similarity. For comparison Swedish and Norwegian have over 80% lexical similarity and are still considered to be separate languages.

I have seen ads in Ukrainian in Mariupol so I guess Russia is not actively supressing the usage of Ukrainian.

People, please be reminded that the current Maidan fascist regime has nothing to do with preserving Ukrainian identity.

It is Ukrainian human rights to have their identity preserved and respected. It is just that the fascist Maidan regime exploit ethnic sentiment as an excuse to enslave Ukrainian people for the US masters.

It is the scheme of Western media to equalized Ukrainian culture and languages with Banderites, although in fact there are no relationship between them. Banderites are criminals and have nothing to do with Ukrainian people. By demonizing Ukrainian culture we are falling into the trap of Western propaganda. And we are also demonizing ourselves, because we act no different from the fascists.

By 150 years I meant the "modern" geopolitical engineering of Ukraine (the Galicia region) by western powers.   Half my family comes from western
Ukraine and the language (dialect if you will) is real and not some Ebonics construct.    Like I said, it goes back to the period after the Poles moved
into the territory of western Ukraine after the Tatar-Mongol horde's influence began to wane.   This was in the late 1400s and 1500s.   The Grand Duchy
of Poland and Lithuania controlled a lot of real estate.   Unlike the Russian Empire they did impose assimilation policies both linguistic and religious.   Poland's
anti-Russian obsession is pure hypocrisy.   The Russian Empire was very soft on Poland and the only reason that Poland got incorporated into the
Russian Empire was because it was trying to colonize Russia.   This includes installing a proxy czar in the 1600s.  

Polish treatment of Ukrainians (actually Russians by origin) was very brutal.   Genuine literature and not stooge academic fakery covers this.  The
current (waning) love affair between Ukraine and Poland is grotesque.   Banderites exterminated Poles during WWII partly for these historical reasons.  
Not that I support their genocide.  

BTW, Zelensky should be classified as a Russian Jew.   He is not Ukrainian and would never had reason to speak it.   The Ukrainian language is distributed
where it emerged and not in the whole of Soviet Ukraine.   The Bolsheviks tried to impose this language on their engineered republic but it failed.   Ukr
nazionalists claim that lack of the mova in central and eastern Soviet Ukraine was due to "Russification".   This is a blood libel lie.

Those Polish enclaves shown on the map, these do not exist.

This question heavily depends on how the SMO ends

but a safe assumption will be however much of Ukraine they control, they wont care if you speak it but Will probably require russians in anty governmentish official capacity work

A more complete image (Languages in Ukraine and Belarus).

My view now is **** them. **** them sideways with a pitchfork. A rusty one. With AIDS on it.

The Nazis wanted to be part of America so much, they can **** off to America.
Pukrainian was always a device to divide the Russian world, and then to ethnically cleanse Russians from their homeland.

Let's face it Pukrainian is a bastard dialect of Russian mixed with some Polish and German and rural inbred fuckwitisms just to annoy Russian people.

Just in Europe there are two examples of very successful multilingual countries - Switzerland and Belgium.

I can't see why Russia can't follow their example.

More diversity is generally a good thing. If people (at least in Western Ukraine) want to speak Ukrainian, let them.

Possibly they need to split it into 3 different groups of dialects/languages.

Krasnorussian (Lvov dialect)
Malorussian (Poltava dialect)
Surzhik (every other mix between western Ukrainian and Russian which is typically spoken in the Ukrainian countryside, and which is not standard, as the surzhik spoken in central/western Ukraine will be different by the surzhik spoken 30 km away from Kiev, and even more to the one spoken  in the current north-center Ukraine).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surzhyk



As I wrote in other posts in other threads, the "official" Ukrainian language statistics consider as Ukrainian speaking all surzhik speakers, even in the eastern part when it is mostly russian with some Ukrainian words.

Anyway:

The future should be that Russian is the official language everywhere, with other regional languages recognized as additional official language in that specific oblasts:
Hungarian in Zakarpatia, Krasnorussian (Lvov Ukrainian) in most Nord - west regions, Malorussian (Poltava Ukrainian) in the central regions, Greek near Mariupol, etc.

The regional official language should be able to be used without problems, as long as every official is also available to speak Russian if requested.

As far as schools, they should organise some bilingual nursery and primary schools (Russian and regional language).

And high schools should be mostly in Russian with the regional language as  possible second or third language to be chosen (in alternative to other languages like Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, German, French, Italian, Greek, Turkish, English, etc).

Of course Math and science classes in school should to be teached only in Russian, and all universities should be russian only (except possibly for some limited specific topics for Malorussian or Krasnorussian culture and language).