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    2023 Israel–Hamas war #4

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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:41 pm

    nomadski wrote:Gaza was originally Egyptian territory , given over to Palestinians . Gaza , in present state is not habitable or sanitary . Gaza , even if rebuilt to original specifications and population , is not a viable territory . A one state solution is not possible now . A two state solution , even if possible now , is improbable , given the small size of available territories and scant resources , and ongoing conflict . There are already five million Palestinian refugees in the world . Many given the choice , will not go back . The Arab and Muslim states will not enter into direct war with Israel , at least for now . The immediate problem is of saving Gaza citizen from Genocide . I think the only solution  is for Egypt to reclaim Gaza territory and open border . It means stationing troops around Gaza . Palestinians then temporarily moved out into camps in Sinai , if they wanted  . The building of Gaza will take twenty years ! The Palestinians could be given dual citizenship in Arab and Muslim states . They would retain the right of return to a viable future homeland , however it is established .

    Gaza is a symbol for the resistance and the historical Palestinian land and it should remains like that .

    If Egypt reclaimed Gaza it will be Egyptian territory and no resistance activities will be allowed as there is a peace treaty , this is actually what israel needs .

    They would retain the right of return to a viable future homeland , however it is established

    Israel will never allow the diaspora people to return back as this will completely change the demographic shape of the state .


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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:13 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:In Argentina, we have many Zionists who are not Jews.
    They especially appear in large numbers on military forums.
    Apart from Milei, it is worth remembering that Massa (the candidate of Unión por la Patria) also had pro-Israel and pro-USA positions.
    He even proposed declaring Hamas a terrorist organization.

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    That's sad .

    Deep in History both Arab World and Latin America have common things .

    Two Canals , common language , anti-imperial struggles ,the Non-Aligned Movement , etc.

    Gamal Abdel Nasser influence can be seen in political leaders in Latin America like Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro and Omar Torrijos .

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:24 pm

    ..common language ..
    Most L. Americans, or Latinos, speak Spanish & Portuguese, not Arabic!
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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:29 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    ..common language ..
    Most L. Americans, or Latinos, speak Spanish & Portuguese, not Arabic!

    Yes i mean they have common language like the Arab states have a common language .
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    Post  starman Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:47 pm

    JohninMK wrote:This assassination in Baghdad could have very far reaching effects.

    It may well have been a step too far at this time when emotions were already running high.

    Sudani should've booted the Americans out months ago. How many murders and outrages are needed to convince him they're a grave liability?

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    Post  nomadski Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:49 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    nomadski wrote:Gaza was originally Egyptian territory , given over to Palestinians . Gaza , in present state is not habitable or sanitary . Gaza , even if rebuilt to original specifications and population , is not a viable territory . A one state solution is not possible now . A two state solution , even if possible now , is improbable , given the small size of available territories and scant resources , and ongoing conflict . There are already five million Palestinian refugees in the world . Many given the choice , will not go back . The Arab and Muslim states will not enter into direct war with Israel , at least for now . The immediate problem is of saving Gaza citizen from Genocide . I think the only solution  is for Egypt to reclaim Gaza territory and open border . It means stationing troops around Gaza . Palestinians then temporarily moved out into camps in Sinai , if they wanted  . The building of Gaza will take twenty years ! The Palestinians could be given dual citizenship in Arab and Muslim states . They would retain the right of return to a viable future homeland , however it is established .

    Gaza is a symbol for the resistance and the historical Palestinian land and it should remains like that .

    If Egypt reclaimed Gaza it will be Egyptian territory and no resistance activities will be allowed as there is a peace treaty , this is actually what israel needs .

    They would retain the right of return to a viable future homeland , however it is established

    Israel will never allow the diaspora people to return back as this will completely change the demographic shape of the state .



    What Israel needs is war , continuous war . If there was peace with Palestinians , then the Zionists will loose power and American funds and support . If Egypt reclaimed Gaza , and stopped cross border skirmishes , then this may stop war in the short term . But it will not satisfy the Zionists expansionism , nor would it stop the Palestinians and Muslims and Arabs from launching a war against Israel . It would however save The Palestinians and add to Egypt territory . The necessity for war is geographic in this region . Hence the Jews and Palestinians turning into permanent refugees both . Gaza is a symbol now of a failed state , 80% unemployment , prison cell , no industry or agriculture or proper defences . What kind of symbol is this ? Who thought about this stupid idea ? The bigger and more ethnically uniform Israel becomes , the greater the necessity for it's destruction . Of course the Israelis in the future will try and disallow their destruction . But it will not be possible or up to them . Right now Egypt and Syria and Lebanon could launch an offensive , to reclaim. Gaza and Golan and the Shabaa farms .  attack
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:25 pm

    BIG SUMMARY of all resistance operations today, February 7 (2024), against US-israeli forces:


    🇵🇸 Al-Qassam Brigades:

    🔻Targeted a group of IOF soldiers, taking cover in a house in area west of Khan Yunis, with a TBG anti-fortification shell, followed by an anti-personnel shell.

    🔻Targeted a Merkava tank & a military bulldozer with Yassin 105s, west of Gaza City.

    🔻Targeted a Merkava-4 tank with a Tandem rocket, west of the Shuja'iya neighborhood in Gaza City.

    🔻In a joint-operation with Al-Quds Brigades, targeted a special IOF force of 10 soldiers holed up in a house in an area west of Khan Yunis with 2 anti-personnel shells and engaged them with machine guns.

    🔻Shelled the army concentrations infiltrating the "Al-Kutiba" area west of Gaza City with mortar shells.

    🔻Sniped an IOF officer near the Industry Intersection in Gaza City.



    🇵🇸 Al-Quds Brigades:

    🔻Shot down an IOF quadcopter drone and seized it during its intelligence mission in the skies of Al-Bureij camp.

    🔻Targeted IOF army gather with 2 suicide drones of type "Sayyad" and "Sahab" west of Gaza.

    🔻Eliminated all members of an IOF force consisting of 7 soldiers after targeting them with a TBG roclet, as they took cover in a residential apartment near Al-Hawooz School, west of Khan Yunis.

    🔻Targeted a military bulldozer with RPGs, causing the death of the personnel inside and setting it on fire, in the vicinity of Al-Amal neighborhood west of Khan Yunis.

    🔻Shelled, in a joint-operation with of Al-Aqsa brigades, the concentrations of soldiers near the checkpoint in the axis of west of Gaza.



    🇵🇸 Al-Aqsa Brigades:

    🔻Targeted a military vehicle with an explosive device, west of Khan Yunis in the southern Gaza Strip.

    🔻Shelled the military concentrations of soldiers and their vehicles with mortars and Al-Aqsa rockets, west of Gaza.



    🇵🇸 Mujahideen Brigades:

    🔻Targeted gatherings of IOF forces in the Jawazat area in Gaza City with a barrage of short-range rockets.

    🔻Targeted a Merkava tank with an anti-tank rocket, west of Gaza City.




    — 🟡 Hezbollah:

    🔻Targeted the Zebdine site in the occupied Shebaa Farms and a gathering of israeli soldiers in its vicinity with rockets.

    🔻Targeted the technical equipment at the Ramia site with suitable weapons.

    🔻Targeted the Khirbet Ma'ar base with Falaq-1 rockets.

    🔻Targeted a gathering of soldiers in the vicinity of the Al-Marj site with rockets.

    🔻Targeted the Ruwaysat Al-Alam site in the occupied Shebaa Farms with rockets.

    This list did not include rockets fired from Gaza towards settlements.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:26 pm

    Yedioth Ahronoth

    Reveiled the true number of casualties among the israeli army since the start of the war, amounting to 13,000 casualties, 55% of them being reservists.

    The IOF is considering changing its conscription laws, making it more strict to train reservists better.


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    Post  ALAMO Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:32 pm

    Some link would be useful ...

    Can we start with official page?

    https://www.ynetnews.com

    Nothing like that there dunno
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:42 am

    The Mujahideen Brigades is a very underrated resistance faction among the other Palestinian ones tbh.

    Sderot, Nahal Oz, and several other operations today were claimed by them. This is also the group that targeted 2 Hermes-900 drones and several IOF helicopters.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:00 am

    🚨 Several rocket alerts sounding in the west of Upper Galilee
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:01 am

    Channel 2 health correspondent:

    Two months after the return of prisoners from Gaza, 78% of them feel “neglected & caught between the cracks” since they have not been offered treatment by trauma specialists.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Feb 09, 2024 5:23 am

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:34 am

    CONFIRMED: Hezbollah announced

    Targeting the Meron Air Surveillance & Control Base with Iranian Falaq-1 rockets, confirming direct impacts.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:34 am

    ⚡WATCH: Hezbollah published a video showing the attack that targeted the Branit IOF Barracks on the Lebanese-Palestinian border.

    Israeli media admitted to several casualties in this attack.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:36 am

    Funeral ceremony of Martyr Baqer Al-Saadi in Karbala, Iraq

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:36 am

    ⚡Al-Qassam (West Bank division) published a video showing a joint-shooting operation with Al-Quds Brigades in Tubas (West Bank), a few days ago.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:38 am

    Al-Qassam (Hamas) Infographic:

    Showing statistics of Al-Qassam’s succesfull operations since October 7th, which includes:

    Fully/partially destroying more than:
    🔻962 Merkava tanks
    🔻55 troop carriers(APCs)
    🔻74 bulldozers
    🔻3 excavators
    🔻14 military jeeps.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:38 am

    Hebrew Channel 12:

    Families of prisoners held in Gaza, blocked a street leading to the Ministry of Defense in Tel Aviv large.

    The sign seen in the video reads: “Deal or Death Sentence”

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:41 am

    Resistance groups attacked the US illegal military site in the al-Omar oilfield in Syria's Deir Ezzor.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:44 am

    “Al-Yassin 105” is a story of challenge and achievement under the siege

    Al-Qassam - Exclusive:

    Throughout the conflict between the occupier and the Palestinian resistance, the occupation and its supporters from the unjust global system worked hard to maintain superiority. The difference between the Zionist occupation is support with military capabilities and advanced and very advanced weapons, financial support and support with military expertise and capabilities, in exchange for depriving the Palestinian of building any type of power or granting him even the right. Confronting the arrogance of the occupation and confronting any kind of its aggression and criminality.
    But the honesty, faith and determination of the Palestinian were present and did not leave the generations throughout the years of conflict with the occupier, and on all fronts, including the military combat front, specifically confronting the enemy’s armor and vehicles in which its soldiers had long been barricaded. However, the Palestinian resistance achieved a remarkable and tangible success in confronting those mechanisms and dispelling the illusion of the enemy. In protecting his soldiers, these vehicles become moving coffins that transport enemy soldiers to inevitable death.

    To read more...

    https://alqassam.ps/arabic/news/details/19814

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:47 am

    🟡| Hezbollah confirms:

    Attacking the command HQ of the 2nd Infantry Brigade at the Ein Zitim IOF base with dozens of Katyusha rockets.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:38 am

    https://youtu.be/3HexI573pjo

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:30 pm

    BIG SUMMARY of all resistance operations today, February 8 (2024), against US-israeli forces:


    🇵🇸 Al-Qassam Brigades:

    🔻Targeted a Merkava 4 tank with a Yassin 105 rocket, near the industrial intersection in Gaza City, followed by engaging with an IOF force, resulting in casualties.

    🔻Eliminated a Zionist sniper near the Aviation Junction in Gaza City.



    🇵🇸 Al-Quds Brigades:

    🔻Shot down an IOF quadcopter drone during its intelligence operations in the eastern central governorate.

    🔻Targeted IOF forces inside their tents in the eastern central governorate with a guided 107mm missile.

    🔻Engaged in intense clashes with IOF soldiers and vehicles using machine guns and anti-ranks shells in the Khan Yunis axis.

    🔻Targeted an IOF force with a guided missile while they were hiding in a residential apartment near the Hawoz area west of Khan Yunis.

    🔻Targeted an IOF military vehicle with a "Tandem" shell, causing it to catch fire.



    🇵🇸 Al-Mujahideen Brigades:

    🔻Engaged in fierce clashes with IOF forces in the western areas of Gaza City using appropriate and diverse weapons.

    🔻MASSIVELY & intensively shelled 9 different military command sites and the following settlements: Asdod, Sderot, Karmia settlement, Yad Mordechai, Or HaNer, Kfar Saad, Nahal Oz, Alumim, Be’eri settlement. Using various types rockets, such as S-40 rockets.



    🇵🇸 Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces:

    🔻Engaged in armed clashes with IOF forces, in Batn Al-Sameen and Al-Amal neighborhood, and launched an RPG on one of the army's vehicles.



    🇵🇸 Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades:

    🔻Targeted positions and gatherings east of Gaza and Jabalia with rocket barrages and heavy-caliber mortar shells.



    🇵🇸 Al-Asifah Forces:

    🔻Engaged in fierce clashes with army vehicles and soldiers on the industrial, universities, and Al-Rimal axes west of Gaza.



    🇵🇸 Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades:

    🔻Engaged in fierce clashes with IOF soldiers and their vehicles using machine guns and RPGs, in the axes in the center and south of Khan Yunis.

    🔻Fought intense battles with appropriate weapons against IOF soldiers and their vehicles in the western axis of Gaza City.



    — 🟡 Hezbollah (9 operations)

    🔻Targeted Branit Barracks with rockets, causing a direct hit.

    🔻Targeted the command headquarters of the Eastern Brigade 769 of the Galilee Division 91 in the "Kiryat Shmona" barracks with appropriate weapons.

    🔻Targeted the Radar site in the occupied Shebaa Farms, achieving direct hits.

    🔻Targeted a building in the Metula settlement where IOF soldiers were located, causing a direct hit.

    🔻Targeted the "Ma’aleh Golani" barracks with Falaq-1 rockets, achieving direct hits.

    🔻Targeted the Al-Zaoura IOF site, with rockets, achieving a direct hit.

    🔻Targeted the Birkat Risha site with Burkan IRAM rockets, achieving a direct hit.

    🔻Targeted the Meron Air Surveillance Control Base, with Falaq-1 rockets, achieving a direct hit.

    🔻Targeted the headquarters of the 3rd Infantry Brigade at the "Ein Zeitem" base with dozens of Katyusha rockets (30), in response to targeting villages, especially the recent aggression on the city of Nabatiye.


    This list did not include rockets fired from Gaza towards settlements.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:31 pm

    Hezbollah Attacks Strategic Meron Base For The Third Times!

    ▪On February 8, Hezbollah forces attacked the Meron Air Surveillance Base on the summit of Mount Carmel in northern occupied Palestine with several Falaq-1 rockets.

    ▫This attack is the third attack by Hezbollah on Meron Base during the recent war with Israel. Hezbollah’s first attack was carried out on January 6, with 40 Katyusha rockets and 22 long-range guided anti-armor missiles (the Dehlawieh-3 missile or the Russian 9m133M-2 missile) and the second attack on January 23, with at least 15 ATGM missiles.

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