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    The Jews in a historical context

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:02 am

    Without wanting to start a bitter argument on the subject, I came across this interesting analysis of the historical context of the Jews. It kind of ended one of those circular and pointless discussions, this time on MoA.

    These are not my words.

    All the posters here (on MoA) who demand elimination of criticism of "Jews" apparently assume they constitute a coherent whole.They don't. Nor are they of Hebrew, Israelite, Judean or Benjaminite extraction.

    An excellent case can be made for arguing that "Jews" are at the core of the genocidal dysfunctionality in our world. But not all 'Jews' are the culprits.

    Accordingly, to be consistent those seeking to eliminate criticism of "Jews" as a collective need also to stop happily denigrating and castigating USans, Brits and others as national collectives. USans and Brits are not responsible for the wars, pestilences and dystopia so apparent in our world. A small group of Talmudists have manipulated those nations and created that situation.

    Some analysis:

    The Pharisees were not Hebrews, Israelites, Judahites or Jews, they were Indumenas who had usurped the tribal temple religion of the Judahites and Benjamins in Judea and were extorting their wealth, a habit that was continued by the neo-Pharisees, i.e.the Khazars. In the 8th Century the Khazars accepted the Pentateuch written by Levites as a societal control mechanism prior to the tribe being conquered and taken to Babylon at the end of the 6th century BC. In Babylon they wrote (plagarised) the Torah. Rabbis then started writing the Talmud (a vicious,genocidal albeit camouflaged, anti-goyim series of 63 books) in Babylon around 500 BC. They continued adding to it until about 500 AD. There are two versions – Babylonian and Jerusalem – but the Babylonian text is dominant.

    The neo-Pharisees didn’t adopt the name ‘Jew’ until around 1775 when they started their overt campaign to dominate Europe and the whole planet.Tthe term did not exist prior to that time.

    The Hebrews, Israelites, Gallieans, Benjamins and Judeans didn’t call themselves “Jews” and Christ Jesus wasn’t a “Jew”, a Judahite, an Indumean or a Pharisee. His mother was of Sumarian stock and his father’s seed was provided by The Gabriel, the Administrator of the Nebadon universe while Christ Michael Aton was bestowing himself on Urantia by overshadowing the physical body of Esu Immanuel, i.e. Christ Jesus.

    Arguably the Pharisee leaders of the tribal Judeans and Benjamins in Christ Jesus' time adhered to, and imposed on the rest of the ‘tribe’, the laws and ideology set out in the Talmud. Moreover, as Christ Jesus said of the Pharisees, 'they say they are Jews but are not'.

    Today the neo-Pharisee leaders of those who call themselves Jews still adhere to the Talmud but virtually all of them are of Khazarian not Indumean or Sephardic origins. The Khazars nurture a deep seated albeit concealed hatred of Christians and especially of Russian Christians because they destroyed their empire and scattered their tribe in the 10th and 11th centuries. Russia's SMO in Ukraine is finally putting an end to that episode.

    For centuries the Khazarian tribal leadership fostered it's ethnocentric hatred of all goyim in their followers by isolating them in shtetls and apartheid community situations where they could clandestinely use mind control techniques to foster that hatred of all 'others' from birth to death.

    Arguably Talmudic ideology was and still is designed as a brain washing socio-political control mechanism. Jewish leaders are indoctrinated in Talmudic ethnocentric, genocidal ideology from cradle to grave and impose it on the rest of the "tribe". That ethnocentricity and its inherent collectivist nepotism has garnered enormous financial, political and social success for those who say they are 'Jews'. While that situation is maintained by the Talmudic Khazarian, i.e. non-Semitic, controllers of global Jewry,(both the Bolshevik NWO globalists and the Zionist, Israel Firsters) the mind controlled general Jewish population will remain in the fold. Why not? After all, the educational, vocational, financial and political rewards of covertly not assimilating to the rest of humanity appear to be very substantial.

    Some History:
    Today's 'Jews" are of Khazarian (Mongol/Turkic/Finnish) extraction. As Koestler and others have said, the Khazars took over the Talmudic ideology in the eight century AD. The Khazars (both their leaders, the Talmudists and their ignorant ‘followers’) pretend to be victims when they are, to varying degrees, perpetrators.

    Those who say or think that they are 'Jews' falsely believe they are because they have been mind controlled, often from birth, to accept that status. Moreover, I think that huge numbers of those who think they are Jews although they are not Talmudists and haven’t been indoctrinated into Talmudic ideology, actively promote their “Jewishness” because of the social, educational, vocational, financial and political advantages they accrue from that status. In other words, most 'Jews' are not guilty of the crimes of their Talmudic leaders.
    In this regard I think that the large portion of the general Jewish population that are either not sayanim or hasbara, or even if they are, they only ‘go along’ with the directives of their Jewish leaders in order ‘to get along’, just as, for example, most USans and Brits and "Five Eyes" populations fund via taxation, and otherwise ‘go along to get along’ with their leaders’ invasions and other war crimes in foreign nations on the other side of the world. Arguably most people ‘know not what they do’ but they are still culpable for their ignorance and cognitive dissonance although not consciously murderous or ‘satanic.’

    Arguably most people who profess to being 'Jews' don’t realise that they are not genetically descendants of Shem but rather most of them have Khazarian genetic origins. A much smaller number of people who think that they are 'Jews' have Separdic, i.e. North African Arabic ancestral origins. It is widely accepted today that virtually no people who say they are 'Jews' actually have significant Shemite DNA; nor were their ancestors Hebrews or Israelites. Most 'Jews' don’t know that let alone understand what it means.

    The subject is complex, especially as the Pharisees (while they existed as such) and the neo-Pharisees, i.e. the Khazarians who, in the 8th century embraced the Talmud and Torah and the trappings of the Pharisees’ tribal religion in order to pretend that they were changing their murderous and barbaric ways.

    Their culture was essentially devious and deceptive before they converted to Talmudism and nothing changed thereafter. BUT to avoid the overt wrath of goyim societies, they redoubled their deceptive efforts to pretend to be religious and to seem like the rest of humanity while merely going underground with their blood thirsty, cannibalistic and satanic behaviours. Thus today, 75% of Jews are atheistic and the remainder worship a jealous, vindictive, genocidal entity that is no god at all.

    To survive and carry out their plot to seek vengeance on Christians and all non Talmudists, the neo-Pharisees, have not only hidden the truth about themselves but also they’ve embarked upon a successful millennia long campaign to conceal and falsify not only the teachings of Christ Jesus but also they have successful concealed and falsified virtually all of our planet’s history just as the Pharisees had previously distorted and hidden the truth about Christ Jesus’s divine revelations by influencing Roman emperors to create the Christian religion. Jesus didn’t incarnate to establish a religion and didn’t. He came to teach divine truths lost and corrupted over millenia by Pharisees and others. In recent centuries the Christian religion and especially the Catholic Church, has been a prime neo-Pharisaic mechanism for destroying human spirituality and knowledge. That doesn’t mean that many Catholics, and religious people generally, are not spiritual and moral any more than that many non Talmudic 'Jews' are not spiritual and moral people.

    The Khazars converted to acceptance of the Talmud and Torah because it plausibly mirrored their murderous barbarism while cloaking it in pseudo religious rituals.

    They had to do that to placate their neighbours, the Rus, the Muslims and the Byzantine Empire, because their overtly murderous empire was no longer being tolerated and faced invasion if they didn’t. Their barbarity and bad faith continued however and so the Rus (the nascent Russian empire) and the Byzantine empire combined to eliminate the Khazarian empire in the 10th and 11th centuries. The Khazarian ruling class dispersed heading north west towards modern day Poland and Germanic lands where they morphed into the Askenazis that, because of their ethno-centric nepotism and hatred of the Christian Rus and Byzantines who destroyed their empire, lived in in apartheid shtetls and enclaves which enabled their leaders (rabbis) to mind control and hence control their Khazarian masses from cradle to grave. That tyrannical collectivist ideological mechanism has become apparent in our wider world as the Ashkenazis have morphed it into various ideologies notably, Capitalism, Communism, Bolshevism, Fascism,Nazism and neo-Marxist Wokeism which they have imposed on various areas of global society.

    Before Khazaria was dissolved they were known ln Europe and Asia as the name stealers (See eg: The new jew question https://clifhigh.substack.com/p/the-new-jew-question?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=cta

    And See: Space Aliens – https://clifhigh.substack.com/p/space-aliens?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=cta
    because they used to provide hospitality to travelers from both the east and the west, learn all about them and their business and then murder them, steal their belongings and pretend to be them and carry on their trade and defraud the murdered traders’ contacts in neighbouring lands.

    Because of their trading skills and knowledge, and because they harboured fierce hatred for all non-Khazars, and because they lived apart in tight knit shtetl communities repelling and pillaging outsiders, Khazarian leaders were able, over centuries, to mind control the ordinary members of their communities. That enabled them to act cohesively within other societies such that they became very distinctive (the Pharisees’ "goyim" and related terminolgy and collectivist ideology greatly facilitated this tribal indoctrination and enabled their leaders to become rich and competent in the manipulative arts which they then practiced on Christian and other non-Khazarian societies.

    Their ethnocentric lifestyle, distinctive customs and averice, and their tendency to parasitically exploit every society in which they lived, made them very distinctive and caused resentment and hatred by those they exploited. As a result they were expelled from well over a hundred societies and countries.
    Never-the-less they persisted and their dominance in trade, ‘money changing’ and banking has enabled them to dominate societies, countries and empires.

    That collectivist exclusivity and ethnocentricity will rapidly dissipate once the Khazarian Mafia's control of global finance and banking is broken and they can no longer reward, and where necessary, coerce rank and file Jews and others to do their bidding. THAT process is underway now.

    Posted by: Ron Chapman | Oct 23 2022 7:59 utc | 409

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/10/ukraine-open-thread-2022-179/comments/page/5/#comments

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    Post  GarryB Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:32 am

    A complex and emotional topic... behave please...
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:05 am


    Interesting

    I will consult some remaining Serbian survivors from WW2 Nazi extermination camps, for some "strange" reason they met a lot of Jews there, funny that...





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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:23 pm




    Ashkenazi Jews are not Khazars because:


    1) They do not look Mongoloid.

    2) Yiddish is a language of German, not Turkic, origin.



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    Post  flamming_python Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:17 am

    That's great and all, about the Khazars

    But by and large they're not the ancestors of modern Jews

    From Alexander Solzhenitsyn's '200 years together'. As authoritative a source on the Jews from a Russian nationalist as you're going to get. If there was a connection between the once Khazar kingdom's population, and the Jews who emigrated from Russia to the US over the course of the 19th-20th centuries and harbour this alleged hatred of Russia - then Solzhenitsyn would surely have uncovered it.

    The Kiev Rus already ruled the entire Volga region including Atil in 909, and Russian ships appeared at Samander, south of Atil on the west coast of the Caspian. The Kumyks in the Caucasus are descendants of the Khazars. In the Crimea, on the other hand, they combined with the Polovtsy, a nomadic Turkic people from central Asia who had lived in the northern Black Sea area and the Caucasus since the 10th century, called Cumans by western historians. This admixture formed the Crimean Tatars. But unlike the Tatars the Karaim, a Jewish sect that does not follow the Talmud, and Jewish residents of the Crimea did not go over to the Muslim faith. The Khazars were finally overrun much later by Tamerlane or Timur, the 14th century conqueror

    Read the book if you're interested as well, although the translation isn't always precise
    https://archive.org/details/200YearsTogether/
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    Post  George1 Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:24 pm

    Jews existed long before the appearance of Khazars

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