Taliban takeover of Afghanistan

Mir wrote:

JohninMK wrote:So, who put ISIS up to it?


Elijah J. Magnier
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#ISIS management of savagery teaches the Takfiri group to push the society towards chaos. #Afghanistan is a very fertile ground for Chaos because the #Taliban didn't expect to control the country in such a short time. /+

Also, #ISIS considers the #Taliban as enemies to be eliminated, and vice versa. Therefore, now that the Taliban is in power, it is in ISIS's benefit to destabilise a non-stable state that lived for 40 years at war, is poor, corrupted, and lacks serious infrastructure. /+

The #CIA planted roots in #Afghanistan. Its aim is to prove to the world that the #US President's decision to abandon the country was the right one. It is also in the intel interest to keep Afghanistan unstable for the #Taliban doesn't succeed where the US failed in 20 years.

Moreover, the stability of #Afghanistan will boost its collaboration with the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation & create a solid front against the #US hegemony & presence in West Asia. That is not in the US interest.

Bottom line: the US & #ISIS interests meet against #Taliban.

Much like Syria.

Remember all the stories out of the Syrians, Kurds and Iraq's about the US helo lifting trapped ISIS fighters and their families out of Syria and Iraq. And then the Afghani's reporting US helicopters flying some groups deep into the mountains... remember?

Afghan General Explains Army Fleeing From Taliban

Lieutenant General Sami Sadat, who commanded the 215th Corps of the Afghan National Army, explained why the Afghan military so quickly surrendered positions to the Taliban (Movement is prohibited in Russia).

In an interview with The New York Times, he noted that for the past three and a half months he has fought in Helmand province, and his troops have held back the Taliban and inflicted heavy losses on them. He was then summoned to Kabul to command the Afghan special forces. But by then the Taliban were already entering the city, and it was too late.

According to the general, the Afghan army has lost the will to fight because of the growing sense of abandonment on the part of "our American partners."

“It pains me to see Mr. Biden and Western officials blame the Afghan army for the collapse, without mentioning the main reasons that happened,” Sadat said.

"Mr. Ghani's hasty escape put an end to attempts to negotiate with the Taliban a temporary transitional agreement that would allow us to hold the city and help organize the evacuation," the general said.

Speaking about the reasons for the collapse of the Afghan army, he said that the end of American interests in the region was put by the peace agreement of former US President Donald Trump with the Taliban in February 2020 in Doha. US air support rules for the Afghan military have changed and the Taliban have grown bolder. Prior to this, the Taliban had not won a single battle against the Afghan army, and after the agreement, the Afghan army began to lose dozens of troops per day. “We lost our superiority over the Taliban when our air support ran out and the ammunition ran out,” the general stressed. “Mr. Biden’s complete and accelerated departure only made the situation worse. He ignored conditions on the ground, ”he added.

The second reason is that the Afghan military has lost logistics and maintenance contractors critical to combat operations. The contractors left and took the software with them, effectively destroying the helicopter missile defense.

And the third is corruption, which is typical for the period of President Ghani's rule. According to the general, corruption has spread to the top military leadership and caused irreparable damage for a long time. “This is really our national tragedy. So many of our leaders - including the military - have been appointed because of their personal connections, not their qualities. These appointments had a devastating effect on the national army, as the leaders lacked the military experience to be effective or to instill confidence in the people, ”Sadat said.

He describes the last battles as follows: "We fought intense skirmishes on the ground against the Taliban, when American fighters circled above us, actually watching what was happening."

“We were betrayed by politicians and presidents,” the general says, adding that it was a military defeat, but it was the result of a political setback.

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ISIS claims responsibility for deadly blasts outside Kabul airport

Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) has claimed responsibility for the attack at Hamid Karzai International Airport in Afghanistan's capital, according to the terrorist group's propaganda outlet.

In a statement claiming responsibility, IS allegedly accused the Taliban of working “in partnership” with the US military to protect and evacuate “spies" from Afghanistan.

IS identified the suicide bomber that attacked Abbey Gate at the airport and left dozens wounded and dead, boasting about “penetrating” security measures set up outside the airport by the “US military and Taliban militia.”

https://www.rt.com/news/533182-isis-responsibility-kabul-airport/

Meanwhile,

Germany declares all soldiers have left Afghanistan.
That is Great!. .....Except there are still two Bundeswehr troops on Kabul Airfield.

Un-freaking-believable.
Personal Role Radio's, HF communication, buddy system, remembering who you are with in your unit.
....Sounding off if you got all your guys with you?...
How do you screw-up Millitary 101 stuff?.





https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/afghanistan-zwei-bundeswehr-soldaten-fehlten-im-letzten-flieger-gerettet-77500706.bild.html

Sky News reporter Stuart Ramsay accuses the UK military of covering up Kabul chaos as he is flown out of Afghanistan on 'MoD orders'

Sky News chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay has recounted his team being 'kicked out' of a British evacuation base in Kabul and ejected from the country

He claims that 'the orders to remove us came from the MoD or from Whitehall, or both', alleging that UK officials did not want the devastating withdrawal filmed

Ramsay's article on leaving Afghanistan was written before the Kabul airport area was hit by twin blasts on Thursday, killing dozens of people

'I suspect the prospect of the withdrawal being filmed in heart-breaking detail was a risk the government wasn't prepared to take, because this will end badly for thousands, I guarantee it,' the veteran reporter said.
'No end of news conferences and ministerial interviews will hide the fact that any of the discussions about 31 August deadlines or extensions were hiding some basic truths:



Ramsay wrote that he had spoken to an officer at the Kabul camp his team had been ejected from before sitting down to write his article.

'I asked him what it was like. He told me it was grim and that between 15 and 30 hardcore Taliban had taken over the entrance and were beating people.

'I asked if it was going to end badly.

'100% Stuart. 100%.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9930363/Stuart-Ramsays-Sky-News-team-ejected-Kabul-MoD-Whitehall-orders-reporter-rages.html

ISIS claim responsibility for devastating attacks in Kabul that have killed at least 72
Group posted a statement on Telegram claiming responsibility for the twin blasts
At least 72 people have been killed, including twelve US servicemen

In May, ISIS-K killed at least 68 Afghans and injured another 165 when they detonated three car bombs outside the Syed Al-Shahda school for girls in Kabul.

The vast majority of the victims were young pupils the Islamist group regard as legitimate targets because they do not believe women and girls should be educated.

The attack came after a period in which Western air strikes had killed thousands of the terror network's supporters and at least three of its leaders.


Founded in 2015, ISIS-K followers aim to establish an Islamic caliphate across Khorasan (hence the initial 'K') – a historic region covering Pakistan and Afghanistan along with parts of Central Asia.


The organisation's chosen first Emir, or leader, was a former Pakistani Taliban commander called Hafiz Saeed Khan, who was killed in 2016.

His foot-soldiers were largely defectors from the Taliban as was his canny PR chief, Sheikh Maqbool, who was charged with ensuring that the group's attacks gained worldwide attention.
They were appointed at the behest of ISIS's (then) top dog Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who was facing difficulties in his stomping grounds of Syria and Iraq, so began funnelling cash to Khan in order to establish a new stronghold in the East.

Initially, their activities were limited to suicide bombings and small arms attacks targeting civilians, along with occasional kidnappings.

Khan's successor Abdul Hasib was famed for both ordering fighters to behead local elders in front of their families, and to kidnap women and girls who were then forced to 'marry' his fighters, effectively becoming sex slaves.

He perished in a special forces raid on his compound in which two US troops died in April 2017.

Later that month, the US dropped the largest non-nuclear bomb in its arsenal – a GBU-43 Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) also known as the 'Mother Of All Bombs' – on a key ISIS-K cave and tunnel system in Afghanistan's Nangarhar province. Around 100 of their troops perished.

A series of drone strikes then wiped out both of Hasib's successors, Abu Sayed and Abu Saad Orakzai, and roughly 80 per cent of the group's troops, reducing their estimated strength from between three and four thousand to under 800 followers by the end of 2018.

Yet like many militant groups, they have since proved almost impossible to eliminate completely.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9930695/ISIS-claim-responsibility-devastating-attacks-Kabul-killed-72.html

They are very fortunate.

Moscow repatriates Russians from Afghanistan with assistance of Taliban, US
Earlier, Russian Ambassador to Afghanistan said that over 360 Afghan holders of Russian passports had been evacuated from Kabul

MOSCOW, August 26. /TASS/. Moscow succeeded in repatriating the citizens of Russia, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan from Afghanistan with the assistance of the Taliban movement (outlawed in Russia) and the United States, the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Thursday.

"Although Kabul’s airport was in disarray, preparations for repatriation flights and their departure proved successful with the assistance of Taliban members and the United States, who still has control of Afghanistan’s airspace," the statement reads.
Russian Ambassador to Afghanistan Dmitry Zhirnov said on Wednesday that over 360 Afghan holders of Russian passports had been evacuated from Kabul.

The repatriation of more than 500 citizens of Russia, Collective Security Treaty Organization countries (Belarus, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan), Uzbekistan and Ukraine was carried out by the Russian Defense Ministry at the order of President Vladimir Putin.


https://tass.com/politics/1330523

Kiko wrote:ISIS claims responsibility for deadly blasts outside Kabul airport

Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) has claimed responsibility for the attack at Hamid Karzai International Airport in Afghanistan's capital, according to the terrorist group's propaganda outlet.

In a statement claiming responsibility, IS allegedly accused the Taliban of working “in partnership” with the US military to protect and evacuate “spies" from Afghanistan.

IS identified the suicide bomber that attacked Abbey Gate at the airport and left dozens wounded and dead, boasting about “penetrating” security measures set up outside the airport by the “US military and Taliban militia.”

https://www.rt.com/news/533182-isis-responsibility-kabul-airport/

I guess this means everyone who worked with the United States is on their list, including Russia?

There are some posters, that are linking articles from the western media, take those articles with a huge grain of salt. Not all of articles are rubbish but most are.

Cowboy's daughter wrote:Sky News reporter Stuart Ramsay accuses the UK military of covering up Kabul chaos as he is flown out of Afghanistan on 'MoD orders'

I asked around,

When the suicider detonated at Abbey Gate and lost contact with the gaurding unit HKIA Command feared they had an breach in their perimiter.

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NATO has some very bad experiences with bomb attacks on bases.

For example in 2009 in Afghanistan Nomad Base of the Canadians had an truck full of explosives detonate into their main gate.
It took out their gaurd tower and the gate was completely gone.
Taliban stormed the base, as the Canadian infantry themselves where away on patrol.
There where an skeleton gaurd crew and non-combat troops on base at the time.

I had OPS duty, this young officer contacted RC South on HF radio for air support.
An CAS (close air support) request has an friendly and enemy coordinate.
The officer, clearly under stress mentioned the same coordinates.

KAF told him to check his data, that they where an exact match thus invalid.
The luitenant yelled back: "they are the same!, They are here!. Nomad Base is being stormed!".
It is an true goosebump moment where you look at your co-worker next to you if this is really happening.

There are more of such examples where Taliban tried to take FOB's/smaller bases.

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So, back to Kabul.

The millitary side is full of transport aircraft loading hundred's of people.
They are sitting ducks, unarmoured, large, being filled with hundreds of people and contain jet fuel.

Kabul air control gave on the command Net the order for all aircraft to take off immidiatly. to litterally "get out now!'".
Its also why the 3 A400 of the german's "forgot" two of their troops there.

The A400 crew where doing emergency start and take off, as they taxi'd with their ramps open german troops came running into them.
Same happened with the British.

Fact here is, Politicians are squirming back home to extend the evacuation.
But the troops there in Kabul right now absolutely realise the danger they are in.

The journalist just does not realise how extremely volatile the situation is.
He should be glad, as far as anyone knew at that moment of the suicide attack.
He might have been on the last flight out of Kabul.

People cannot understand such reality...

Maximal chaos strategy. It was obvious weeks ago when they turned the power off at the main military base and opened it up to looters.

This cant be all explained away by incompetence.

Just when it looked like the worst of it was over, ISIS shows up and pulls off a deadly attack.

No-one in the West listened

Cowboy's daughter wrote:

Kiko wrote:ISIS claims responsibility for deadly blasts outside Kabul airport

Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) has claimed responsibility for the attack at Hamid Karzai International Airport in Afghanistan's capital, according to the terrorist group's propaganda outlet.

In a statement claiming responsibility, IS allegedly accused the Taliban of working “in partnership” with the US military to protect and evacuate “spies" from Afghanistan.

IS identified the suicide bomber that attacked Abbey Gate at the airport and left dozens wounded and dead, boasting about “penetrating” security measures set up outside the airport by the “US military and Taliban militia.”

https://www.rt.com/news/533182-isis-responsibility-kabul-airport/

I guess this means everyone who worked with the United States is on their list, including Russia?

This was an ISIS attack on the US and the Taliban. Russia is already in ISIS's bad book for Syria. The US and Turkey are harboring ISIS in Syria. The whole thing doesn't make any sense and reeks of a psyop of some sort. The only ones who ever claimed that ISIS was ever in the area is the western media.

Ah wait a minute. It was ISIS-K. We have a new acronym.

Afghanistan crisis: Who are Isis-K?

Isis-K - or to give it its more accurate name, Islamic State Khorasan Province (ISKP) - is the regional affiliate of Isis (or so-called Islamic State) that is active in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

It is the most extreme and violent of all the jihadist militant groups in Afghanistan.

It was set up in January 2015 at the height of IS' power in Iraq and Syria, before its self-declared caliphate was defeated and dismantled by a US-led coalition.

Backman wrote:Maximal chaos strategy. It was obvious weeks ago when they turned the power off at the main military base and opened it up to looters.

This cant be all explained away by incompetence.

Just when it looked like the worst of it was over, ISIS shows up and pulls off a deadly attack.

I hate to think it was deliberate, but idk

From what i read, it was what "Biden" (or his handler/s), and 3 of his Generals, one being Mark Milley wanted .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Milley


But imho, USA is in serious trouble.

If he had not evacuated Bagram air force base, and pulled down troops, but evacuated all first...
As I understand it, all gates to the airport are sealed.
I don't believe "we will rescue our Americans. We will get our Afghan allies. " We are leaving persons behind.
"Our mission will go on", until what the 31'st, however long it takes to pack up and get out.
"They gave me a list here. The first person I was instructed to call on.."


I can't help but think back to Obama's drones.

President Biden delivers remarks after deadly Kabul attack — 8/26/2021
"We will hunt you down. We will make you pay"






George W. Bush's press sec.


Ari Fleischer@AriFleischer·48m
At a time like this, we need a president who conveys strength, reassurance, comfort and steadiness.  Biden’s speech did not convey any of those four.
51m
This is an incoherent bumbling mess of a speech.  This man is not up to the task. This is hard to watch.
36m
Which is it?  We’ll hunt them down or we’ll withdraw the troops?  It’s hard to achieve both.

JohninMK wrote:Ray McGovern
@raymcgovern
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Do today's bombings at Kabul airport have signs of a false flag attack? If prior intelligence was so accurate, why was attack not nipped in bud? Key question as always: CUI BONO -who profits from killing Americans at this point? Biden better ask it, before he gets sucked back in.

Like how the US embassy in Iraq gets rocket attacked when troop number are being reduced.

I think this was a false flag. Someone has to say it. Does it make a lot of sense ? No. But neither does the official narrative.

Blasts reported this evening may well have been the start of the destruction of military assets that the US or Afghan Army does not want falling into others hands.

Nafiseh Kohnavard
@nafisehkBBC
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Some of the explosions that were heard later this evening in Kabul were due to controlled detonation of the equipment in that base.

A group of Afghan SIV holders, Elite forces, foreign contractors & troops were still inside the base until tonight

Nafiseh Kohnavard
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Tonight the last remaining base belongs to Afghan Eagle Forces in Kabul was evacuated. All the sensitive documents were shredded & military equipment were detonated.
The base was the headquarters for many major op including the killing of al-Qaida's second-in-command in Ghazni

I guess until I see proof, I think it's incompetence.

I think after Trump, with Biden as President, they went back to Obama's playbook, which was "Pivot to China" , and I think they will go back to drones, if that's possible. I think they really thought what they had planned was doable, which was just arrogance and poor planning. I think it's what someone said, they thought they could win through negotiations, instead of militarily, get out and pivot to China, and I think the Taliban played them. Trump did have, from what I read, some conditions. But Biden Administration didn't even hold Taliban to them.

franco wrote:Afghan General Explains Army Fleeing From Taliban

Lieutenant General Sami Sadat, who commanded the 215th Corps of the Afghan National Army, explained why the Afghan military so quickly surrendered positions to the Taliban (Movement is prohibited in Russia).

In an interview with The New York Times, he noted that for the past three and a half months he has fought in Helmand province, and his troops have held back the Taliban and inflicted heavy losses on them. He was then summoned to Kabul to command the Afghan special forces. But by then the Taliban were already entering the city, and it was too late.

According to the general, the Afghan army has lost the will to fight because of the growing sense of abandonment on the part of "our American partners."

“It pains me to see Mr. Biden and Western officials blame the Afghan army for the collapse, without mentioning the main reasons that happened,” Sadat said.

"Mr. Ghani's hasty escape put an end to attempts to negotiate with the Taliban a temporary transitional agreement that would allow us to hold the city and help organize the evacuation," the general said.

Speaking about the reasons for the collapse of the Afghan army, he said that the end of American interests in the region was put by the peace agreement of former US President Donald Trump with the Taliban in February 2020 in Doha. US air support rules for the Afghan military have changed and the Taliban have grown bolder. Prior to this, the Taliban had not won a single battle against the Afghan army, and after the agreement, the Afghan army began to lose dozens of troops per day. “We lost our superiority over the Taliban when our air support ran out and the ammunition ran out,” the general stressed. “Mr. Biden’s complete and accelerated departure only made the situation worse. He ignored conditions on the ground, ”he added.

The second reason is that the Afghan military has lost logistics and maintenance contractors critical to combat operations. The contractors left and took the software with them, effectively destroying the helicopter missile defense.

And the third is corruption, which is typical for the period of President Ghani's rule. According to the general, corruption has spread to the top military leadership and caused irreparable damage for a long time. “This is really our national tragedy. So many of our leaders - including the military - have been appointed because of their personal connections, not their qualities. These appointments had a devastating effect on the national army, as the leaders lacked the military experience to be effective or to instill confidence in the people, ”Sadat said.

He describes the last battles as follows: "We fought intense skirmishes on the ground against the Taliban, when American fighters circled above us, actually watching what was happening."

“We were betrayed by politicians and presidents,” the general says, adding that it was a military defeat, but it was the result of a political setback.

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Wasn't he the one hyped up as the fresh young commander who will bring the battle to the Taliban?

Now he's probably in a Western country himself already, seeing as he has the time to give interviews and explain things.

Not that I judge anyone particularly. It's clear everyone fell over to betray one another and cut their own deals with the Taliban and it's quite possible this guy was just left to hang by a higher-up.

Anyway. Truly a shitshow of epic proportions, and it just gets worse every day. Everyone has failed Afghanistan and its people, it's just a territory for endless proxy wars and breeding of terrorists.

I feel like I'm in The Twilight Zone! You have to be kidding me!

In January 2009, newly elected President Barack Obama nominated Panetta for the post of Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Lucas Tomlinson@LucasFoxNews·29m

“We’re probably going to have to go back in” to Afghanistan to get ISIS, former defense secretary and CIA director Leon Panetta tells CNN

No way out: Afghans flee to the border as Kabul airport is hit by suicide bomb attack - but Taliban won't let anyone through crossings and neighbouring countries send BACK those who make it across

The Taliban now control all of Afghanistan's main border crossing points with neighbouring countries, making it difficult for Afghans to flee

For those Afghans who make it across the border, many are being sent back to Afghanistan by the countries

Afghans who reached Iran last week were sent back after being given food while Uzbekistan sent 150 Afghan refugees back to Afghanistan last week as per an agreement with the Taliban

A people smuggler told The Guardian: It is impossible to fence the mountains and deserts,' he said. 'We have people at all entry points to receive the refugees and take them to the next destination.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9929175/Afghans-flee-border-Kabul-airport-closes-Taliban-wont-let-crossings.html

Cernovich@Cernovich·16m

In June 2021 General Milley said that the Bagram air field wasn’t needed as tactically necessary for Afghanistan rollout.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9wNb9ZUYAMxDay?format=jpg&name=900x900




Bill Roggio@billroggio·
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The @POTUS administration’s servile approach to the Taliban is both stunning and dangerous. Providing lists of American citizens and vulnerable Afghans to the Taliban?



Bill Roggio@billroggio·
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What assets will he use to hunt ISKP? The
@NDSAfghanistan
is not more. The ANA is no more. What Afghan in his right mind would help the US now, after they were abandoned?



Thomas Joscelyn@thomasjoscelyn
Replying to @thomasjoscelyn

This claim deals with the suicide bombing outside the airport. The text is intended to send a point - accusing the Taliban of working with the U.S. to evacuate people. In other words, the attack and the text of the claim are intended to undermine the Taliban's jihadi credentials.

par far wrote:There are some posters, that are linking articles from the western media, take those articles with a huge grain of salt. Not all of articles are rubbish but most are.

Either post corrections or stop complaining

And if you are going to throw shade on posters then have balls to list them by name instead of being a backbiter

Airbornewolf wrote:Meanwhile,

Germany declares all soldiers have left Afghanistan.
That is Great!. .....Except there are still two Bundeswehr troops on Kabul Airfield.

It's a remake of The Long Walk To Freedom