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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:55 am

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    Post  Airbornewolf Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:20 am

    one thing in all of this saigon 2.0.

    Besides it is all Biden's gigantic screwup and every NATO government was so corrupt and inept not to adress this.
    I am not leaving the afghan's themselves to go freely on the "i want 2000 euro/dollar a month, netflix on a 4k TV and bend to my religion" tour.

    First Afghan that pulls the "refugee" card and blames it all on my society i am going to show this.
    And ask him to spot the differences between Afghanistan and Syria.







    I kinda remember the whole afghan tribalism and beating animals.
    No bonus points with me.

    The 600 Afghan SF guys excluded. They came to Kabul airport stating they did not accept the surrender order.
    And got assigned to gaurding the Kabul Airport Perimiter.
    They get a pass, the rest of the fighting age male's do not.

    Also, did any here see the Hezbollah move as an unit?.
    deep respect for that level of proffesionalism.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:26 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russian plane in Kabul picking up their load:

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    Bhahahah, Damn, max level Troll right there.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:00 am

    Make a run for the border... if you think you can make it there alive: UK tells stranded Afghans NOT to come to the airport as troops begin to pack up and leave thousands behind after Joe Biden's betrayal

    Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said there were few places left on UK planes, raising fears people will be left

    It comes as US officials last night reiterated 'very real risk' of a terror attack from ISIS-K on Kabul Airport

    Around 2,000 Afghan interpreters need evacuating from Afghanistan, with UK troops to depart 'by weekend'

    Troubling footage from southern border town of Spin Boldak showed Afghans queuing at Pakistan border (Pictures and videos on link.)

    The UK last night told its Afghan allies who are still trying to get out of Afghanistan to head for the border rather than attempt to get into Kabul airport where US and British forces are winding down their operations.


    Pressed by a Tory backbencher, Mr Wallace added: ‘I recommend that they try and make it to the border … because it is higher profile going to the airport – that is where the Taliban will be focusing their efforts at the moment.’

    There was no suggestion however, that Afghans who have been told by western officials to travel to the airport for evacuation should alter that plan.

    Meanwhile, troubling video today showed thousands of Afghans attempting to flee the country via the Pakistan border.

    The footage shows a huge crowd of people at Spin Boldak, a southern village on the border with Pakistan, queuing up at the border gates.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9927311/UK-tells-stranded-Afghans-border-not-airport-terror-attack-threat-Isis-K.html

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:00 am

    American embassy alert advises US citizens not to go to Kabul airport

    Posted: Aug 25, 2021 / 10:31 PM CDT / Updated: Aug 25, 2021 / 10:31 PM CDT

    WASHINGTON (NewsNation Now) — The U.S. embassy in Kabul advised U.S. citizens not to travel to the Hamid Karzai International Airport at this time, according to an embassy security alert.

    Citizens already at the airport’s Abbey Gate, East Gate, and North Gate were advised to leave immediately, said the security alert.

    “Because of security threats outside the gates of Kabul airport, we are advising U.S. citizens to avoid traveling to the airport and to avoid airport gates at this time unless you receive individual instructions from a U.S. government representative to do so,” the statement read in full.

    https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/video/american-embassy-alert-advises-us-citizens-not-to-go-to-kabul-airport/

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:08 am

    Utair helicopter looted at Kabul airport. 

    The Russian airline Utair relocated its helicopter from Kabul airport to a safe place after unknown people got on board and looted it, the press service of the company told to RIA Novosti.

    According to Utair, on August 17, unidentified persons entered the helicopter, where they "opened a container with on-board emergency rescue equipment, which contained tools and an inviolable supply of food." The internal skin was also damaged, the press service added.

    "The engineering and technical staff put things in order on board and performed the necessary work to ensure departure. On the twenty-second of August, the helicopter, along with all the personnel of the Utair air group, was relocated to a safe location" – the agency interlocutor said.

    Source: 
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:44 pm

    Son Of Afghanistan's 'Lion Of Panjshir' Prepares To Resist Taliban Rule (video)

    Ahmad Masud, the son of a revered Afghan resistance fighter, says thousands of his troops are preparing to resist Taliban rule from their stronghold in Afghanistan's Panjshir Valley, about 100 kilometers northeast of Kabul. The mountainous area is the only region of the country that hasn't fallen to the hard-line Islamist group.

    https://gandhara.rferl.org/a/son-of-afghanistan-s-lion-of-panjshir-prepares-to-resist-taliban-rule/31428065.html



    Anti-Taliban Fighters Train In Afghanistan's Panjshir Valley, A Renowned Bastion Of Resistance
    August 25, 2021
    By RFE/RL's Radio Azadi (PHOTOS)


    Fighters vowing to resist Taliban rule in Afghanistan are preparing for battle in the country's last area not fully controlled by the Islamist group. The Panjshir Valley is renowned as a bastion of resistance in the Hindu Kush mountains -- an area that has fought off occupation by a variety of invaders for more than a century. The province is mostly inhabited by ethnic Tajiks, while the Taliban are predominantly Pashtuns.

    Anti-Taliban fighters in the valley include members of local militias and former members of Afghanistan's security forces. They are part of the National Resistance Front (NRF), led by Ahmad Masud, son of Ahmad Shah Masud, the legendary commander who fought against Soviet and Taliban rule in the 1980s and 1990s.

    https://gandhara.rferl.org/a/anti-taliban-githers-panjshir-afghanistan/31427151.html

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    Post  Kiko Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:53 pm

    Terror Warning in Kabul to Avoid US, UK Shame?, by Finian Cunningham for Sputniknews. 26/08/2021.

    Just when the eyes of the world are watching a shambolic and shameful scramble out of Afghanistan by the United States and its British ally then we get this dramatic terror warning.

    Media reports say the US, Britain, Australia and New Zealand issued “very specific” and “near-identically” worded warnings for throngs of people to disperse from the airport in Kabul, the Afghan capital.

    The four allies are members of the so-called Five Eyes intelligence grouping which also includes Canada. That indicates a coordinated messaging by those governments.
    The warning claims that a little-known Islamist terror group, Isis-K, is planning to “imminently” hit the airport entrances with suicide bombs. The group is distinct from the dominant Taliban* militants.

    Consequently, the US and its allies are urging people to immediately vacate the area around the airport. Curiously, all entrance gates to the airport are mentioned as high-risk areas.

    Further to the grim warning, Britain’s military minister Ben Wallace advises people milling around Kabul airport: “Head for the border,” according to a front-page report in the Guardian. “If they think they can make it to a third country, that may be a better option,” said Wallace. Meaning, a better option than being airlifted out of Kabul by Britain’s Royal Air Force.

    The suspicion is that the alleged terror threat is all too convenient. The American and British governments are looking like callous fools from the debacle of their military retreat from Afghanistan. After 20 years of waging a criminal, futile war in the country, Washington and London are scurrying like rats off a sinking ship. The regime they propped in Kabul with billions of dollars and weaponry has fallen like a house of cards to the Taliban insurgents who swept into the capital on August 15, taking control of the country.

    What’s making the retreat look even more shameful is the chaotic scenes at Kabul airport where the US and Britain are struggling to get their remaining citizens and Afghan aides out of the country ahead of the August 31 deadline next week when the last of American and British troops have been ordered out by the Taliban victors.

    It is estimated that there are as many as 1,500 US citizens still trapped in Afghanistan. Britain is saying there are as many Afghan interpreters and others who assisted the British military occupation and who are eligible for evacuation.

    That means come next week there are going to be even more ignominious scenes of thousands of American and British collaborators left stranded in Kabul as the last of the military cargo planes take off. It will be potentially an epic PR disaster for Washington and London.

    Hence the suspicious terror warning put out by the Americans and British and amplified by their Five Eyes partners, Australia and New Zealand. The purpose seems to be: disperse the abandoned and desperate throngs whose image would otherwise create a searing global image of betrayal.

    Things do not add up in the official warning. For a start, the Isis-K group is not known as a credible terror outfit. Secondly, in another context, US President Joe Biden recently said that Isis-K was the “sworn enemy” of the Taliban. Thirdly, we are told that the Taliban have “ring-fenced” the perimeter around Kabul airport with checkpoints to stop Afghans from reaching the area. So, if the area is so tightly controlled by the Taliban, how is their “sworn enemy” Isis-K supposed to mount a suicide bomb attack?

    Having said that, a horrific bombing could be carried out by some unknown agency (the CIA, MI6?) in order to “substantiate” the terror warning.

    Another dubious point is this: the Western intelligence agencies are supposed to now have “very specific” information on an imminent terror attack. But these same agencies did not have information warning of the Fall of Kabul when the Taliban ousted the Western-backed regime on August 15.

    British minister Ben Wallace’s advice to Afghans to leave Kabul and “head to the border” to escape through neighboring countries is another telling part of the cynical calculation. In other words, he’s saying, get lost in the deserts and mountains far away from the world’s eyes… and, do us a final favor chaps, just go away and die somewhere remote and anonymous.

    https://sputniknews.com/columnists/202108261083718929-terror-warning-in-kabul-to-avoid-us-uk-shame/

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    Post  Airbornewolf Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:50 pm

    suicide attack and firefight going on at one of Kabul airport's acces gates.

    Edit: Also an Italian C-130 on take-off has taken fire.

    conflicting reports about the nature of the gunfire tough.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:07 pm

    Son Of Afghanistan's 'Lion Of Panjshir' Prepares To Resist Taliban Rule (video)

    It is interesting... in this case the lion of panjshir is more like the baby lion and has no experience or track record doing what his father did with great skill.

    More importantly the west is probably going to very quickly forget about Afghanistan and so any bad behaviour by the taleban will be largely ignored because if it isn't ignored it might be used to force the US et al to go back in there and save the day which is clearly something they don't want to have to do.

    More importantly this anti taliban resistance is going to be a problem for the taleban but it is isolated.... it could only possibly work if it is supported and supplied by an outside power and in doing so will piss off the taleban who might not be so inclined to be nice to the people that got left behind by their enemies

    this lion could make things much worse and force the taleban to be more confrontational to any pro western elements in the country.

    The alternative of letting the anti taleban resistance suffocate would lead to a lot of morality and bullshit from the bleeding hearts about their eventual defeat.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:36 pm

    4 or more u.s troops injured in what is suspected an suicide vest attack.



    Edit:

    i wont post here because of graphic content. but the street is full of torn bodys there.
    ....****...

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:26 pm


    Second blast​reported as well

    ISIS finally went after low hanging fruit

    Saigon Joe will now be in even bigger pickle: send troops back or run away even harder (latter is a certainty), PR disasters just keep rolling

    It looks like Taliban are about to drop the mother of all fatwas on ISIS, this is bad PR for them as well



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    Post  franco Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:40 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Son Of Afghanistan's 'Lion Of Panjshir' Prepares To Resist Taliban Rule (video)

    It is interesting... in this case the lion of panjshir is more like the baby lion and has no experience or track record doing what his father did with great skill.

    More importantly the west is probably going to very quickly forget about Afghanistan and so any bad behaviour by the taleban will be largely ignored because if it isn't ignored it might be used to force the US et al to go back in there and save the day which is clearly something they don't want to have to do.

    More importantly this anti taliban resistance is going to be a problem for the taleban but it is isolated.... it could only possibly work if it is supported and supplied by an outside power and in doing so will piss off the taleban who might not be so inclined to be nice to the people that got left behind by their enemies

    this lion could make things much worse and force the taleban to be more confrontational to any pro western elements in the country.

    The alternative of letting the anti taleban resistance suffocate would lead to a lot of morality and bullshit from the bleeding hearts about their eventual defeat.

    Considering that if the rumours are true and that he was offered a position on the 12 man ruling council, then he is not taking good advise from someone.
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    Post  Rasisuki Nebia Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:21 pm

    How convenient, the airport they rushed to seeking a "better life" ends being the place of their demise, so sad for the afghan people they don't deserve this .

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:54 pm


    It's a bloodbath

    https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/1430925655005347848

    At least 40 dead and 120 wounded arrived at Kabul hospitals after airport attacks, with 60% of the wounded in critical condition



    With potential to get worse

    https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1430914653165604865

    NEW: Source briefed on the situation in Kabul tells me “hundreds of ISIS-K in the vicinity, attacks likely to continue”



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    Post  Hannibal Barca Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:16 pm

    Bombing make things interesting.
    Big boys game now, not let's negotiate deadline extension and LGBD BS.
    I think some expect that Washington regime will back down, me among them.
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    Post  Hole Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:05 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    It's a bloodbath

    https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/1430925655005347848

    At least 40 dead and 120 wounded arrived at Kabul hospitals after airport attacks, with 60% of the wounded in critical condition



    With potential to get worse

    https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1430914653165604865

    NEW: Source briefed on the situation in Kabul tells me “hundreds of ISIS-K in the vicinity, attacks likely to continue”




    I guess the source is from the CIA = ISIS.

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    Post  Sujoy Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:09 pm

    First the Pentagon said 12 U.S servicemen were killed in the attack. Now they have reduced that number to just 4.

    However, not a single dead body of any U.S soldier has been found yet. Not to forget the area where these explosions went off were under the control of the U.S military.

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    Post  nomadski Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:09 pm

    Of course the tribal situation is predominant factor for most forces in Afghanistan . The best all tribal factions can do is to remove forces from each others areas . This will most probably happen in practice . Since other tribes are also capable of basic self defence . Neighbours of Afghanistan can help this process . Not leave any area undefended . If any regional states encourage tribal expansionism , then there should be consequences . As there should be consequences for Pakistan for refusing to control borders against extremists , both along Afghan border and Iranian border and India border .

    The Taliban do have anti-Iranian elements . I remember a few of them sitting down and talking to BBC about thirty years ago . Saying if they came across an Iranian , they should like to cut their throats ! And what of this ISIS-K group ? The " K " by the way , is for khorasan . A region in Iran bordering Afghanistan . By the looks of it , the Haggani network related to Taliban is running this group . And they obviously have tribalism or sectarian ambitions in Iran .

    So they are local . We can find where they live . Strike back against them , like ISIS in Eastern Syria or PKK terror group in Kurdistan . A few missiles will end their progeny and Iran should help Tajik and Uzbek and other states against this Pakistan inspired terror group . That is why Iran needs Nukes . Not just against yanks and Israel , but also against Pakistan expansionism . I remember a Bastard Paki general , threatening to nuke Iran , if Iran attacked Saudi . But it looks like this Raesi is as spineless as the other Mullahs and Liberals , when it comes to the foreign enemy . They are very brave when it comes to defenceless Iranians on the street .....kind to the enemy and hostile to Iranians .


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    Post  Finty Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:18 pm

    RIP to those killed, was shocked to see that Americans had been killed. Seems more tragic in light of the warnings too.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:23 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    It's a bloodbath

    https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/1430925655005347848

    At least 40 dead and 120 wounded arrived at Kabul hospitals after airport attacks, with 60% of the wounded in critical condition



    With potential to get worse

    https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1430914653165604865

    NEW: Source briefed on the situation in Kabul tells me “hundreds of ISIS-K in the vicinity, attacks likely to continue”





    I've read 10 Marines and soldiers killed, and also some Taliban, Richard Engels had a good report on NBC I think, came on my news at 12, saying Taliban opened prisons, and a lot of terrorists, and ISIS came out of the prisons.

    Which Taliban does not want either.

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    10 US Marines, soldiers killed in Kabul airport explosion, officials say:

    https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/live-updates-taliban-gain-more-ground-in-afghanistan-as-they-close-in-on-kabul
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:29 pm

    Finty wrote:RIP to those killed, was shocked to see that Americans had been killed. Seems more tragic in light of the warnings too.


    Thank you, Finty.


    Sorry, y'all

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    Post  par far Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:33 pm

    Looks like the Chinese and the Russians have big plans for Afghanistan, the US dollar and Afghanistan.







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    Post  Airbornewolf Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:36 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    It's a bloodbath

    https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/1430925655005347848

    At least 40 dead and 120 wounded arrived at Kabul hospitals after airport attacks, with 60% of the wounded in critical condition



    With potential to get worse

    https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1430914653165604865

    NEW: Source briefed on the situation in Kabul tells me “hundreds of ISIS-K in the vicinity, attacks likely to continue”




    I saw, remember that Ditch/waterway at the base?. it was full of dead body's and red with blood.
    same with the street itself. what an absolute slaughter.

    If they do simultanious attacks its 100% gauranteed their handlers are still around to continue.
    These cells contain an bombmaker, an handler and force protection.
    And if they lack any volunteer's for the one-way trip to heaven.
    They just snatch some kid from the street and send him in for an remote detonation.

    There is no defense against an suicider, except keeping an safe distance.
    Then you got vehicle borne IED's.You virtually can not protect yourself against these.

    What is the point in staying?. Grab that british guy outside the Airport with his dogs/cats.
    And get out,... Troops are dying out there for nothing.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:44 pm

    Daily Mail has a piece, now saying a third bomb.

    Ten US servicemen among 40 dead in 'ISIS suicide bomb' attack at Kabul airport as THIRD blast is heard: NATO countries start to pull the plug on evacuations - but PM insists UK flights WILL continue
    US officials have confirmed a 'number' of US forces personnel have died in the attacks. UK defence officials say they do not believe any British troops have been killed.

    It comes amid reports of a third blast in Kabul tonight. Reporters on the ground say the blast was heard near to the airport this evening. No official details have yet been released.

    NATO countries, including Denmark, have already stopped their evacuation efforts this evening, while the gates to the airport have now been sealed by US troops in the aftermath.


    can just go to the Daily Mail and read it

    It seems US and British news I've found is not much news yet.

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