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    Post  PhSt Thu May 20, 2021 4:34 pm

    slasher wrote:The question now is... what concessions did the the US demand from Germany?

    Germany arrests businessman over dual-use exports to Russia

    My instinct is that on all other issues going forward Germany is to strictly toe the line like a loyal subservient as retribution for their intransigence regarding NS2. Expect Germany, especially if the Greens see power after elections, to be fighting for position with Poland and the Ukraine to be the US' #1 lapdog.

    Why rely on imports of dual use machinery when Russia can just steal the blueprints and manufacture it themselves? I'm sure Russia has the industrial capacity and pool of engineers to do this
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    Post  slasher Thu May 20, 2021 6:57 pm

    PhSt wrote:Why rely on imports of dual use machinery when Russia can just steal the blueprints and manufacture it themselves? I'm sure Russia has the industrial capacity and pool of engineers to do this

    You've missed the point. Who cares whether it's a plain egg-beater or a weed-wacker, it's about proving loyalty and regaining the master's favour like a good servant.
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    Post  kvs Thu May 20, 2021 7:52 pm

    slasher wrote:The question now is... what concessions did the the US demand from Germany?

    Germany arrests businessman over dual-use exports to Russia

    My instinct is that on all other issues going forward Germany is to strictly toe the line like a loyal subservient as retribution for their intransigence regarding NS2. Expect Germany, especially if the Greens see power after elections, to be fighting for position with Poland and the Ukraine to be the US' #1 lapdog.

    Germany has been acting like Russia's enemy since before WWII. Merkel was very active in the 2014 Maidan coup. Germany was active in the
    break up of Yugoslavia and support for the Croat ethnic cleansing of Krajina, East and West Slavonia. All the yapping about Greater Serbia and
    ethnic cleansing by the Serbs is fully contradicted by facts on the ground. Everywhere that Serbs were smeared as ethnic cleansers, they have
    been the primary victims of ethnic cleansing. This western evil is unforgivable. The only reason that NS2 is being supported by the lapdog
    Reich is because it serves its interests more than sucking Uncle Scumbag's schlong as hard as possible.

    The Greens (a Trojan operation by the corporate elites who use environmentalism as a fig leaf) are practically foaming at the mouth with hate
    spew for Russia. Why should Russia engage with such a freak show. As noted by Mercouris in one of his videos, NS2 is going to be the
    last pipeline project by Russia to the EU. It's about time.

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    Post  Kiko Thu May 20, 2021 11:03 pm

    US and Ukraine lost battle for Nord Stream 2.
    May 20, 2021.

    The United States has abandoned sanctions against Nord Stream 2, which could put an end to the project. Russia and Gazprom can celebrate the victory - the gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea will not only be completed, but also put into operation. In terms of time, this can be done by November, that is, by the beginning of the new heating season. Why did Washington dutifully leave the battlefield and will not help Ukraine in any way?

    The situation around Nord Stream 2 has escalated to the limit. On the eve of the publication Axios, citing its sources, reported that the Biden administration plans to impose new sanctions on the gas pipeline. In addition to the vessels and their owners, the pipeline operator Nord Stream 2 AG and its manager Matthias Warnig will also be subject to sanctions. This is a clear step towards new tough sanctions that would put an end to the supply of Russian gas through this pipeline. However, the United States played back. Washington decided to partially suspend their implementation, guided by the national interests of the United States. And on Thursday night, US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken officially confirmed this information.

    According to him, the State Department has submitted a report to Congress in accordance with the amendments to the European Energy Security Act (PEESA) to impose sanctions against four ships, five organizations and one individual that are involved in the construction of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, including Nord Stream 2 AG and CEO Matthias Warnig. However, in the national interests of the United States, it was decided "to suspend the implementation of sanctions against Nord Stream 2 AG, its head Matthias Warnig and corporate employees of Nord Stream 2 AG." This statement was circulated on Thursday night during a meeting between Blinken and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

    As a result, four vessels remained on the black list - the Akademik Chersky and the supply vessel Baltic Researcher, as well as the icebreaking vessels Vladislav Strizhov and Yuri Topchev, which are helping to complete the construction of Nord Stream 2. Plus, nine additional vessels that are controlled or owned by the FSBI "Marine Rescue Service" (Marine Rescue Service) fall under the sanctions. This company was also included in the black list, together with the companies Koksokhimtrans, Mortransservice and Samara Heat and Power Property Fund (STIF). The latter became the owner of Akademik Chersky after it became clear that this vessel would inevitably fall under US sanctions due to the construction of a gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea off the coast of Denmark.

    The exclusion of Nord Stream 2 AG and its top managers from the sanctions list is a landmark decision. This allows us to assert that Nord Stream 2 will not only be completed, but, more importantly, the Americans will not interfere with putting the pipeline into operation.

    The fact is that the inclusion of ships and their owners in the blacklist does not pose a danger: measures against them were expected. All this is a direct consequence of the sanctions imposed back in December 2019. It's just that every time Americans specify specific names of companies and people. As soon as Fortuna began to complete the construction of the Danish section of the gas pipeline, it immediately fell under sanctions. Now it's Akademik Chersky's turn, who came to the rescue later. Punishment also threatens supply vessels that tow pipe-laying vessels, deliver pipes, etc.

    “However, the blacklisting of Fortuna did not lead to changes in her work. Fortuna continues to build. And the vessels on the new list will also continue to work, ”said Igor Yushkov, an expert at the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation, an expert at the National Energy Security Fund.

    Russia was ready for this, so it changed the owners of the ships for those companies that you would not mind putting into the American meat grinder. For example, the same Gazprom Flot, which originally owned the ship, was removed from the ranks of Akademik Chersky's owners.

    An important point is that the United States does not propose to extend sanctions to the entire chain of owners who are blacklisted ships. Otherwise, Gazprom Flot and then the parent company, Gazprom itself, would be under the threat of sanctions.

    “The change of ownership or the transfer of the vessel to rent or lease could be seen by the United States as an attempt to circumvent the sanctions. However, according to the preliminary list of companies, we see that Gazprom Flot was not included in it. Gazprom's strategy worked: he hid his structures from sanctions. The Americans are not digging in this direction. This is already a positive signal, ”says Yushkov.

    The fact is that such investigations could lead to serious consequences. “If the United States went through the chain of owners to Gazprom, they would have driven the Europeans into a corner. After all, then buying any gas from Gazprom would be a violation of the sanctions. But Europe cannot refuse to buy Russian fuel altogether, this is unrealistic. Therefore, European companies would still conduct operations with Gazprom, for which the Americans would have to punish them. The Americans do not want to get to Gazprom, but not because of Gazprom or Russia, but because of the Europeans, ”Yushkov explains.

    The lifting of sanctions against the operator of the Nord Stream 2 AG gas pipeline and its head Matthias Warnig is from the same sphere. The United States does not want to worsen relations with Europe, which is why Gazprom and Russia are winning.

    “When the United States says that lifting the sanctions is in its national interests, it means that the result of these sanctions - the deterioration of relations with Europe - is not in the interests of the States,” Yushkov said.

    What does the inclusion of Nord Stream 2 in the sanctions list mean? That neither European companies, nor European government agencies will even be able to exchange documents with the Nord Stream 2 operator.

    “When the pipeline operator brings the German regulator all the necessary documents to obtain permission to commission the constructed Nord Stream 2, the regulator will face a difficult choice. Within the framework of German law, he is obliged to accept these documents and issue a permit. But then the German regulator will violate US sanctions. If, on the contrary, it fulfills the American sanctions, then it will violate its own European laws. The Americans de facto now admit that they have decided not to put Europe in such a difficult position of choosing between a rock and a hard place, ”says the FNEB expert.

    The bottom line is that the current sanctions related to the construction process do not interfere with the construction itself. "Fortuna" is now building a kilometer a day, "Akademik Chersky" - half a kilometer a day. The work is already at the home stretch. And the risks that the Americans will interfere with the commissioning of the already completed gas pipeline have finally dissipated. Two problems of Nord Stream 2 have been de facto resolved. Most likely, there will be no problems for the commissioning of a half-capacity gas pipeline. Yushkov expects that by November the first gas will be supplied to Germany via the pipeline.

    Gazprom will have to solve the problem of the pipe operation not at full capacity of 55 billion cubic meters of gas per year, but only by 50%. This is the requirement of the norms of the EU Third Energy Package for the offshore section, introduced by the EC specifically for Nord Stream 2.

    The Americans will direct all their efforts to prevent Gazprom from filling its own pipeline completely. To this end, the United States is using its European partner, Poland, which will continue to obstruct Gazprom's attempts to reclaim the entire pipeline in every possible way.

    “It will be very difficult to get permission for one hundred percent loading of Nord Stream 2. The Opal pipeline has not been able to achieve this for years. Therefore, it is possible that Gazprom will transfer ownership of half of the gas at the bottom of the sea. This is one of the scenarios ", says the expert of the National Economic Security Fund.

    It is curious that in Europe the demand for Russian gas is very high, although this is not typical for May, and prices jumped to $ 350 per thousand cubic meters. At the same time, Gazprom, according to Yushkov, deliberately fulfills not all orders of the Europeans, which go in excess of the contractual volumes. Such a trick is needed, firstly, not to pump excess volumes through Ukraine. And it's not only about politics, but also about money - Gazprom has to pay higher tariffs in case of excess supplies through the Ukrainian pipe. Secondly, Gazprom is clearly hinting to Europe to live in harmony, and that it is possible to receive additional volumes of gas via Nord Stream 2. The uncharacteristically high demand for gas in Europe is now due to a longer and frosty winter than usual. Underground gas storage facilities are depleted as never before, and now the Europeans want to fill them.

    In any case, the news on Nord Stream 2 is not happy for Ukraine. Gazprom will gradually stop financing Ukraine. “The launch of the Russian pipeline will allow gas to be supplied to Europe bypassing Ukraine. At the same time, its losses from the transit of Russian gas to Europe will be quite tangible. According to the Ukrainian side, at the end of 2020, Ukraine's profit from gas transit amounted to $ 13 billion, ”notes Oleg Kalenov, Associate Professor at the Department of Industrial Economics, PRUE. Plekhanov.

    According to Sergei Makogon, head of the Ukrainian GTS Operator, the Ukrainian economy will lose $ 5-6 billion a year if Nord Stream 2 is launched. This includes $ 1.5 billion in transit revenues, as well as $ 2–3 billion in revenue from an automatic increase in the price of gas for Ukraine itself by $ 50 per thousand cubic meters, since the price of gas transportation from Germany will be higher. Plus, the cost of exporting fertilizers will rise and gas prices for the population will rise. Finally, without transit, the EU's interest in Ukraine will decrease significantly. However, as soon as Ukraine finds itself without transit, which means without the ability to put pressure on Russia, the US's interest in it will dry up. Without the ability to annoy Russia, the Americans are unlikely to need Ukraine.

    Text: Olga Samofalova

    https://m.vz.ru/economy/2021/5/20/1100226.html

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    Post  slasher Thu May 20, 2021 11:55 pm

    Nice read. As @kvs and others have repeatedly been stating, it is Europe that more needs Russia (its resources and its capabilities), not the other way around as Western leaders would like to imagine.

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    Post  owais.usmani Fri May 21, 2021 7:51 pm

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4825036

    Construction of Baltic gas complex starts in Ust Luga.

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    Post  PhSt Fri May 21, 2021 11:22 pm

    US imposes sanctions on Russian companies and ships related to Nord Stream 2

    WASHINGTON, May 21. /TASS/. The United States has blacklisted 13 Russian ships involved in the implementation of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project, the US Department of the Treasury said on Friday.

    The blacklisted ships are the Academic Chersky, the rtemis Offshore, the Bakhtemir, the Baltic Reseracher, the Finval, the Captain Beklemishev, the Murman, the Narval, the Sivuch, the Spasatel Karev, the Umka, the Vladislav Strizhov, and the Yuri Topchev.

    The US Department of the Treasury on Friday imposed sanctions against three Russian legal entities linked with the implementation of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project.

    The sanctions cover Mortransservice, the Marine Rescue Service, and the Samara Heat and Power Property Fund.

    One more company, Koksokhimtrans, which is already on the US blacklist over the situation in Ukraine, has been added to the Nord Stream 2-related sanction list. Hence, once sanctions are lifted under one of these blacklists, restrictions will stay in place under the other.
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    Post  PhSt Sun May 23, 2021 6:28 pm

    Fortuna pipe-laying vessel resumes work on Nord Stream 2 in German waters

    The Fortuna pipelay barge has resumed construction work on the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline in German waters, according to the MarineTraffic global ship tracking system and Germany’s Federal Maritime and Hydrographic Agency (BSH).

    The German maritime regulator said that Fortuna will work in German waters from May 22 to June 31. According to MarineTraffic, the ship has left the waters of Denmark, where it previously worked on the construction of Nord Stream 2 together with the Akademik Cherskiy vessel, and is currently in the German zone.

    German news agency dpa also reported on Sunday, with reference to the pipeline’s operator Nord Stream 2 AG, that Fortuna was carrying out pipe-laying works in German waters.

    On May 17, BSH issued a permit to allow another two-kilometer stretch of the pipeline to be laid in May on the seabed in the German exclusive economic zone.

    The almost-complete Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline was designed to boost Russian gas supplies to Germany and other European countries by 55 billion cubic meters per year. It will connect Germany directly to Russia via the Baltic Sea. The pipeline is aimed at protecting Berlin's energy security and also lowering the price by making the process less reliant on third countries transiting gas.

    The US has been relentlessly seeking to block the completion of the pipeline, while imposing numerous packages of sanctions against companies involved in its construction, maintenance, insurance and certification, leading some to pull out altogether. Russia thus had to dispatch its own vessels to lay the final kilometers of the route.

    On Friday, the US Treasury Department published a new blacklist of Russian ships and entities sanctioned for their part in building the pipeline, which includes 13 vessels (among them the Akademik Cherskiy) and a sea rescue service.

    The White House admitted earlier this week it was not able to stop the completion of the pipeline, which press secretary Jen Psaki said had been “95% completed” by the time President Joe Biden took office.

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    Post  franco Mon May 24, 2021 1:01 am

    So the Danish "B" pipeline section is complete and only a short German section remains.

    https://twitter.com/colonelhomsi/status/1396591693101731843/photo/1

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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 24, 2021 1:03 am

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    On May 22, Fortuna vessel completed the installation of line B of Nord Stream 2 in the waters of Denmark and began the construction of the German section. The vessel met the deadlines set by the German federal water and shipping authority..


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    Post  owais.usmani Mon May 24, 2021 7:44 am

    franco wrote:So the Danish "B" pipeline section is complete and only a short German section remains.

    https://twitter.com/colonelhomsi/status/1396591693101731843/photo/1

    https://twitter.com/colonelhomsi/status/1396609973690552321

    Akademik Cherskiy continues to complete line A, which has the largest unfinished section in German & Danish waters, about 85 km. For unknown reasons, the speed of completion of the pipeline is an average of 500meters per day. The ship it had to reach two km of pipeline a day..

    Why is it so slow? Shortage of pipes?
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    Post  kvs Mon May 24, 2021 2:16 pm

    What's the rush? Now that the yanquis have folded (with some spitting of new pointless sanctions), if it takes several months to
    finish, then it does not matter.

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    Post  PhSt Mon May 24, 2021 2:31 pm

    kvs wrote:What's the rush?  Now that the yanquis have folded (with some spitting of new pointless sanctions), if it takes several months to
    finish, then it does not matter.


    Well, you never know what kind of pathetic stunt the yanquis will pull up next time whenever they get the chance, these warmongers might shoot down another civilian aircraft and pin the blame on Russia
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    Post  LMFS Mon May 24, 2021 4:20 pm

    Pipe-laying barge "Fortuna" began completion of the German section of "Nord Stream - 2"

    Pipe-laying barge Fortuna continued laying gas pipeline pipes in German waters. This was reported by the press service of the company - operator Nord Stream 2 AG.

    Fortuna has begun laying a two-kilometer section of the gas pipeline in the exclusive economic zone of Germany, which was opposed by German environmentalists. Earlier, the Federal Office for Shipping and Hydrography of Germany ordered the immediate execution of the construction permit for this section. The work was to begin at the end of May.

    Thus, "Fortuna" must lay the remaining pipes on the site while the permit is valid, and it is valid until September.

    Meanwhile, according to some media reports, Fortuna has already fully completed the laying of line B of the gas pipeline in Danish waters and has moved to the German economic zone to complete the remaining section. It remains to lay a little more than 13 km to the "golden junction", after which the construction of line B will be completed.

    It is emphasized that "Fortuna" runs at a maximum speed of 1500 meters of pipes per day, if the weather remains favorable, the string can be laid by the beginning of June. The barge is escorted by nine vessels, four of which provide security, five are engaged in the delivery of pipes and necessary equipment.

    The second pipelayer, Akademik Chersky, is laying pipes on line A. Today, he has about 78 km to go, the work is scheduled to be completed in September.

    https://en.topwar.ru/183296-truboukladochnaja-barzha-fortuna-nachala-dostrojku-nemeckogo-uchastka-severnogo-potoka-2.html
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    Post  franco Mon May 24, 2021 6:34 pm

    "Akademik Chersky" strangely slowed down on the laying of "Nord Stream-2"

    After completing the Danish section of Nord Stream 2, the pipe-laying barge Fortuna entered the extraterritorial waters of Germany to help Akademik Chersky to work on the final section of the gas pipeline. The vessels participating in the construction, including those supplying the project with the necessary equipment and components, ignored the next sanctions presented by the United States the day before.

    If the current pace of laying is maintained, by mid-autumn the pipe can reach its destination - the German port of Greifswald. The Americans have already come to terms with the fact that they are unable to stop this process, and now, most likely, they are looking for a way to prevent the full-fledged operation of the SP-2 on the land route in Europe.

    The Fortuna entered the German waters at full speed, gaining almost the cruising speed of laying the pipeline of 1.2 km per day. At this rate, the barge can complete the remaining 12.5 km of the gas line "B", the construction of which was entrusted to the ship, in a maximum of two weeks and move on to connecting its section with the section "A", which is being handled by "Akademik Chersky". There are no formal obstacles to the advancement of "Fortune" along its route: all permits from German officials have long been received, and forecasters predict favorable weather in the near future. The work of the barge was not prevented by the new American sanctions imposed by Washington against more than a dozen vessels participating in the project.

    Meanwhile, "Akademik Chersky" is not yet ready to boast of a similar pace of progress: over the past few weeks, the vessel has laid only 8 km out of 85 km of the unfinished line "A". Although, after the modernization, the Akademik was supposed to accelerate to 2 km per day, its current daily speed does not exceed 500 meters on average. Moreover, there is conflicting information about the stoppage of the pipelayer: according to one source, lawyers of Gazprom and the Nord Stream 2 operator are assessing the consequences of the next US sanctions; on others, the crew is being replaced and repair work is being carried out on the ship itself. The latest version is supported by the fact that the multifunctional vessel Artemis Offshore, which can carry spare parts and a new team of builders, urgently moved from Kaliningrad to the Chersky.

    In accordance with the updated schedule presented by the Federal Administration for Waterways and Shipping of Germany, its section "Akademik Chersky" should be completed no later than September. However, if the vessel accelerates the pace of laying, then the gas pipeline may reach the shores of Germany in the middle of summer.

    Then, test and commissioning work will begin, which, depending on weather conditions, will take 2-3 months, says Alexei Grivach, deputy director of the National Energy Security Fund. Direct connection to German distribution lines will take no more than one to two weeks, since the onshore section of the pipeline in Germany has long been ready for operation. Theoretically, as German politicians predict, already at the beginning of 2022, European consumers will be able to receive the first commercial gas from Russia via a new route.

    However, after the completion of the offshore section, the problems of Nord Stream 2 will only increase. Washington does not hide the fact that the pipeline is still on its "black list" of the most hostile Russian economic projects. This implies further pressure on the companies involved in the operation of the raw material route. Moreover, most likely, the Americans will not only follow the beaten path and continue their attacks through the numerous environmental organizations of the Old World. Perhaps a confrontation in this vein will not bring serious success, but the European courts will have to consider every claim of environmentalists, so the number of bureaucratic obstacles for the full operation of the SP-2 runs the risk of increasing dramatically.

    “The sanctions pressure on the gas pipeline will also remain. The next claims will follow with an enviable frequency, and their object is promised to be first the companies that ensure the certification of the pipe, and then the suppliers of equipment and spare parts necessary for the operation of the gas pipeline, most of which have no Russian counterparts, '' warns Igor Yushkov, an expert at the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation. “Both can be threatened with sanctions if they continue to cooperate with Gazprom.

    It is quite possible to bypass these barriers by searching for new certification structures or purchasing components through third parties, but the efforts of the Americans will not be in vain, since the pipeline will not always work at full capacity, and its profitability will decrease. "

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    Post  lancelot Mon May 24, 2021 11:35 pm

    franco wrote:...Meanwhile, "Akademik Chersky" is not yet ready to boast of a similar pace of progress: over the past few weeks, the vessel has laid only 8 km out of 85 km of the unfinished line "A". Although, after the modernization, the Akademik was supposed to accelerate to 2 km per day, its current daily speed does not exceed 500 meters on average. Moreover, there is conflicting information about the stoppage of the pipelayer: according to one source, lawyers of Gazprom and the Nord Stream 2 operator are assessing the consequences of the next US sanctions; on others, the crew is being replaced and repair work is being carried out on the ship itself. The latest version is supported by the fact that the multifunctional vessel Artemis Offshore, which can carry spare parts and a new team of builders, urgently moved from Kaliningrad to the Chersky.
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    “The sanctions pressure on the gas pipeline will also remain. The next claims will follow with an enviable frequency, and their object is promised to be first the companies that ensure the certification of the pipe, and then the suppliers of equipment and spare parts necessary for the operation of the gas pipeline, most of which have no Russian counterparts, '' warns Igor Yushkov, an expert at the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation. “Both can be threatened with sanctions if they continue to cooperate with Gazprom.
    ...

    Yes I also noticed this. The Akademik Chersky basically stopped laying pipe like a day ago. It also keeps doing this all the time. For a ship theoretically better at laying pipe than Fortuna in practice it really has not been any better thus far. I doubt "suppliers of equipment and spare parts necessary for the operation of the gas pipeline" don't have Russian counterparts as the article claims. Most of the pipe was manufactured in Russia this time. And compressors are not something Russia cannot manufacture given its gas turbine industry. What else is left?

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    Post  owais.usmani Thu May 27, 2021 2:47 pm

    https://www.rosneft.ru/press/releases/item/206295/

    In the north of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, PJSC NK Rosneft is launching a project to build an oil loading terminal at the port of Bukhta Sever. The work is being carried out within the framework of the locomotive project of the Vostok Oil Company. A leading team of specialists from the United Energy Construction Corporation arrived on the Taimyr Peninsula to organize the construction. Ice-class ships delivered about 20 thousand tons of cargo to Taimyr, including heavy construction equipment, rotational housing complexes, communication equipment, as well as materials for the arrangement of shift camps.

    The Bukhta Sever port project, developed by the country's leading design institute LenmorNIIproekt, has passed all the necessary examinations. The next step will be the construction of hydraulic structures, storage facilities for material and technical resources and berthing facilities on the Yenisei Bay.

    The first stage of the port construction provides for the possibility of shipping oil up to 30 million tons per year. By 2030, after the implementation of the second and third stages of construction, the volume of oil transshipment will increase to 100 million tons.

    Vostok Oil is the largest project not only for the Russian, but also for the world economy. The resource base is over 6 billion tons of premium low-sulfur oil. At the same time, Vostok Oil is a project with a minimum carbon footprint, accounting for only a quarter of the global average for new large projects. Wind power and associated petroleum gas will be used to supply power to the Vostok Oil facilities.

    The implementation of the Vostok Oil project will help to develop the unique resource potential of the region. The project's competitive advantage is its proximity to the Northern Sea Route. Its use opens up the possibility of supplying raw materials from the Vostok Oil fields in two directions at once: to the European and Asian markets. The implementation of the project will ensure the fulfillment of the tasks set by the President of Russia to increase the cargo traffic along the Northern Sea Route to 80 million tons by 2024.

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    Post  kvs Sat May 29, 2021 3:52 pm

    The recent Biden Whitehouse flip flop on Nord Stream II is something that does not get enough analysis.   It is not a "bone" for Putin.
    It is the acceptance of the reality that Russia and China have transitioned to a higher level of cooperation and that Russia has
    deployed and is deploying massive export capacity both in pipeline form and LNG to the far east.    The Power of Siberia I branch
    has 62 billion cubic meters of export capacity.   This is enough to delete the whole export branch through Banderastan without Nord
    Stream II.   Stopping NS II is literally begging for Russia to pull the middle finger and for the EU to lose 50 transitioning to 62 bcm/year
    of cheap gas and having to eat LNG cake (including from Russia).  

    The Whitehouse and its EU minions must be slowly grasping the fact that Russia can transition to LNG exports in the coming 15 years
    and have the EU lose all access to cheap Russian gas.   For some reason these hubris filled windbags thought that Russia could
    be coerced to 1) ship natural gas through a hostile regime controlled state and 2) keep on piping cheap gas to the EU forever.
    These are the same morons who thought and still think that Russian doesn't make anything and needs "hard currency" to survive.
    These losers think nothing has changed from the 1980s.   But their delusions don't even apply to the USSR.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat May 29, 2021 7:27 pm

    kvs wrote:The recent Biden Whitehouse flip flop on Nord Stream II is something that does not get enough analysis.   It is not a "bone" for Putin.
    It is the acceptance of the reality that Russia and China have transitioned to a higher level of cooperation and that Russia has
    deployed and is deploying massive export capacity both in pipeline form and LNG to the far east.    The Power of Siberia I branch
    has 62 billion cubic meters of export capacity.   This is enough to delete the whole export branch through Banderastan without Nord
    Stream II.   Stopping NS II is literally begging for Russia to pull the middle finger and for the EU to lose 50 transitioning to 62 bcm/year
    of cheap gas and having to eat LNG cake (including from Russia).  

    The Whitehouse and its EU minions must be slowly grasping the fact that Russia can transition to LNG exports in the coming 15 years
    and have the EU lose all access to cheap Russian gas.   For some reason these hubris filled windbags thought that Russia could
    be coerced to 1) ship natural gas through a hostile regime controlled state and 2) keep on piping cheap gas to the EU forever.
    These are the same morons who thought and still think that Russian doesn't make anything and needs "hard currency" to survive.
    These losers think nothing has changed from the 1980s.   But their delusions don't even apply to the USSR.

    Sun Tzu: Don't interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

    Murikan arrogance will be the prime cause of their eventual downfall.

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    Post  lancelot Sun May 30, 2021 11:57 am

    kvs wrote:The recent Biden Whitehouse flip flop on Nord Stream II is something that does not get enough analysis.   It is not a "bone" for Putin.
    It is the acceptance of the reality that Russia and China have transitioned to a higher level of cooperation and that Russia has
    deployed and is deploying massive export capacity both in pipeline form and LNG to the far east.    The Power of Siberia I branch
    has 62 billion cubic meters of export capacity.   This is enough to delete the whole export branch through Banderastan without Nord
    Stream II.   Stopping NS II is literally begging for Russia to pull the middle finger and for the EU to lose 50 transitioning to 62 bcm/year
    of cheap gas and having to eat LNG cake (including from Russia).  

    The Whitehouse and its EU minions must be slowly grasping the fact that Russia can transition to LNG exports in the coming 15 years
    and have the EU lose all access to cheap Russian gas.   For some reason these hubris filled windbags thought that Russia could
    be coerced to 1) ship natural gas through a hostile regime controlled state and 2) keep on piping cheap gas to the EU forever.
    These are the same morons who thought and still think that Russian doesn't make anything and needs "hard currency" to survive.
    These losers think nothing has changed from the 1980s.   But their delusions don't even apply to the USSR.

    The Whitehouse had to concede because without the pipeline German industry will not be able to compete economically on the world stage.
    The Germans painted themselves into a corner by shutting down both coal and nuclear at the same time.
    In addition the Netherlands are going to shut down their gas fields because the gas exploration is causing earthquakes as the soil collapses and cracks.
    Most of the Netherlands are below sea level behind dams. I don't need to tell you what the consequences of those earthquakes and soil erosion could be.
    If the US wants to fight both Russia and China they can't do it without European capital on their side.

    The talk that they could develop the gas resource in France and Poland with hydraulic fracturing also proved to be a failure. In France public opinion balked at dirty fracking and exploration in Poland has lead nowhere. Even if they get it to work, the water injection causes earthquakes. This might not be a problem in Bumfuckistan USA where no one lives. But most of Europe is pretty dense in terms of population and earthquakes mean someone will have a cracked house and you will get lawsuits and popular protests.

    I still remember back when Power of Siberia I was being talked about I discussed with other people that Russia could simply sell the gas they would sell to Europe to China instead. They dismissed it saying the Russians did not have the capital to build the pipeline and it wasn't economically viable. They thought the Russians were captive suppliers. Pathetic. This is the same Western opinion which wanted to build Nabucco to cut out the Russians from supply to Europe by getting gas supplies from Turkmenistan. They dragged their feet on it, the major proponents the US and Germany didn't want to pony up the capital, and the Chinese came in and made deals. The result is right now if Europe wants Turkmen gas, well, most of it has already been contracted out to China for the next decades. I suspect much the same situation is bound to play out with Russian gas. Chinese gas requirements are gargantuan and still increasing. Power of Siberia I still is not the threat you talk about though. That will require Power of Siberia II to be built. Power of Siberia I is developing new Far East gas fields which are not from where the European gas supply comes from. Power of Siberia II, once it gets built, will however take gas directly from Yamal, where European gas supplies mostly come from, to China via Mongolia.

    Now that Power of Siberia I has been built the Europeans take the threat of Russia to build Power of Siberia II seriously where previously they did not. Pretty pathetic I think. Anyone who knew what happened with Nabucco would already have figured out the most likely scenario a long time ago.

    I agree that the talk about "hard currency" is a joke. The Soviet Union could completely sustain itself with only internal resources. Even Russia can do it. Just notice how Russia lost all the farmland in Ukraine, the US "experts" thought that Russia could not feed itself without Ukraine. The current government just proved them wrong. What a joke.

    They think the Soviet Union could not produce enough food because they imported wheat. Well, the US government was subsidizing its agribusiness and selling wheat below cost so the Soviet Union took advantage of it. It was just more expedient to buy US wheat. Even if they did not buy US wheat, all they needed to do was to stop feeding wheat to cattle and they wouldn't need any wheat imports at all. It is not like the Soviet Union lacked land area for cattle to graze on did it.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 30, 2021 3:51 pm

    lancelot wrote:...They think the Soviet Union could not produce enough food because they imported wheat. ...

    Which is precisely what happened, USSR could not feed itself

    Communism failed on it's own basic premise



    lancelot wrote:...Well, the US government was subsidizing its agribusiness and selling wheat below cost so the Soviet Union took advantage of it. ...

    I don't think you understand who was taking advantage of who in this situation

    USA simply took Lenin's advice: Sell them the rope to hang themselves with any it worked beautifully

    Commies were fucked over and sent where they belong with minimum amount of effort, good play



    lancelot wrote:...It was just more expedient to buy US wheat. ...

    Starving desperate beggars can't be choosers



    lancelot wrote:
    Even if they did not buy US wheat, all they needed to do was to stop feeding wheat to cattle and they wouldn't need any wheat imports at all. It is not like the Soviet Union lacked land area for cattle to graze on did it....

    And they would immediately run out of meat because their agriculture was a shitshow

    Don't try to whitewash incompetent retarded commies, you will fail every time

    And stop conflating them with Russians, those are two different things (thankfully)
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    Post  lancelot Sun May 30, 2021 8:56 pm

    https://archive.vn/tXF7R

    Soviet Agriculture's Dependence on the West
    By Karl-Eugen Wädekin
    Spring 1982

    ...
    It is a fact that by now the Soviet Union produces 69 percent more grain than it did at that time (five-year average of 1976-80 compared to 1956-60), while its population in 1980 was only 23 percent more than in 1960. And yet it has turned from a net exporter of grain into a net importer.
    ...
    Taking into account the population increase on the one hand, and the declining direct human consumption of grain per head on the other hand, one finds that the growing grain output was practically all used for feed.
    ...
    the feed conversion ratio for pigs is almost double those of farms in the Western highly industrialized countries. In other words, for producing an additional 100 pounds of pork (live weight), Moscow has to produce or import not 350 or 400 pounds of corn, as Japan or West Germany have to, but up to 700 pounds and some protein feed in addition. With Western feed conversion ratios, Soviet grain imports could be roughly halved
    ...
    True, the U.S.S.R. also imports great quantities of wheat, but essentially it imports feed grains, as the imported wheat merely substitutes for low-grade Soviet wheat used for feed.
    ...
    Second, among other factors pressing on the feed conversion ratio, the state of the premises for livestock on collective and state farms has to be mentioned. Many do not really protect from the winter cold that prevails in most of the country. So during part of the year the animals utilize feed for keeping up their body temperature rather than for gaining in weight.
    ...

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 30, 2021 9:33 pm


    Back in the 80s Soviets women were selling their pussies for box of bubblegum

    Don't even try to sell that bullshit about Soviet utopia, vermin was living on leftovers

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    Post  kvs Sun May 30, 2021 10:16 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Back in the 80s Soviets women were selling their pussies for box of bubblegum

    Don't even try to sell that bullshit about Soviet utopia, vermin was living on leftovers


    They were selling themselves during the Yeltsin "golden years". Before 1990 they were not selling themselves and people
    were not lining the streets to sell trinkets to feed themselves. It was the Harvard Boyz and their lemmings in Russia
    (Gaidar, etc.) who shock therapied Russians into mass poverty overnight.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 30, 2021 10:38 pm


    USSR was importing food from it's own enemies

    Starving Soviets

    Nothing will ever change that

    So fu¢k off with that commie bullshit, had they had anything to eat maybe they would have still existed

    No food = no nation

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