Talking bollocks thread #3

Tsavo Lion wrote:But now China & Russia r adversaries of the West.

Tsavo Lion wrote:India could have opened herself up for investments like China, Taiwan, S. Korea, Malaysia, Singapore & Thailand have done, but her political system & demography isn't well suited for it, even though it's a former British, French & Portuguese colony.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Now she's against the BRI, potentially losing more than can be gained by joining it.

GarryB wrote:
Australia is a torn country... after being abandoned by the UK when the UK joined the EU, Australia looked to the US and has done so ever since despite the reward largely being getting to go to Vietnam etc etc. Aussies are fundamentally racist... on a chart they are not quite as bad as white south africans but they are pretty bad... Australia makes a lot of money sending coal to China

Tsavo Lion wrote:The US racism is aimed mostly at Blacks, Latinos, & Natives, although lately, at Chinese. The long running huge trade deficit with Asia, incl. India, didn't help either.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Still, hate crimes against Indians r not as common as against other non-Whites I listed.

Tsavo Lion wrote:The Thais, Koreans, Turks/Azeris, Armenians, Vietnamese & Philippinos r less so, & never heard of  any hate crimes involving them.

kvs wrote:Games with statistics are diversionary tactics.   Of course the number of hate crime cases is going to be lower if the minority population
is 13 times smaller compared to blacks and Hispanics.    And on top of that you have the nonlinear effect of reporting.  Since the
awareness of hate crimes is much less, it is much more difficult to make noise about.    Blacks and Hispanics have lots of mass media
coverage of their problems, I basically never hear about Indians.    Even US aboriginals get more coverage.  

I attribute the low reporting rate also to Indian culture.   That is not a derogatory statement.

Also, I see that you list Turks and Armenians as well. I thought they were Whites.

Tsavo Lion wrote:
Even Italians, Greeks & Germans r not considered  fully White.

Tsavo Lion wrote:The Irish r White but they r Catholics, just like most Latinos who compose many races & mixtures; since most US Whites r protestants, they r also discriminated against.

Germans were never considered non White.

White Catholics today do not face any racial discrimination.

Tsavo Lion wrote:
I'm an Ashkenazi Jew, not dark skinned, & still not being treated as equal. If u have foreign accent & don't look like a typical Yankee, u r a 2nd class citizen here at best. I can't even flirt with an American born woman w/o getting into trouble with men.
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Tsavo Lion wrote:
The Irish r still looked down upon in the US, & they r the poorest Whites here.

How can anyone figure out that you are not a White Christian.

The President of NYSE is an Irish woman. Such an important position would not have gone to an Irish American if Irish Catholics were facing discrimination.

Sujoy wrote:Racism in US is directed at almost all people of colour including Indians (people from India). Racism against Indians is severe but it doesn't capture much attention because Indians barely make up 1% of US population.

Tsavo Lion wrote:
My ancestry according to analysis by  CRI Genetics
(https://www.crigenetics.com) :
Jewish 70.40%  Italy 14.60%  Southern, Central Slavic 6.00%
Scandinavian 5.10%  Greek 1.50%  French 1.20%  African 1.20%
I've traveled extensively & was mistaken for a Latino, Italian, Georgian, French, & even Chinese.

Tsavo Lion wrote:JFK, R. Reagan, & B. Clinton r also of Irish descent; B. Obama is 1/2 Black. Does this mean there's no discrimination, bigotry & racism against Irish & Blacks in the US anymore?

How is this breakdown of your ancestry any different from White Christians in the US?

Ashkenazi Jews like you have always been White. In fact most White Jews have a skin tone at least a shade lighter than White Christians.

..they went on to occupy high positions including the highest office in the country.

Clear indication that you can make progress in the US despite being an Irish, Jew or Black.

How often has Israel elected a non Jew as Prime Minister?

Tsavo Lion wrote:I can't even flirt with an American born woman w/o getting into trouble with men.

Why has this thread turn into a anti-white thread? Racism against white people is also racism.

They tell me White women in US neither date nor marry them.

Tsavo Lion wrote:

Also, I see that you list Turks and Armenians as well. I thought they were Whites.

Even Italians, Greeks & Germans r not considered  fully White. The Irish r White but they r Catholics, just like most Latinos who compose many races & mixtures; since most US Whites r protestants, they r also discriminated against.
But actually, anxieties about white dominance are a perennial in American history. Benjamin Franklin was extremely worried about whites being overwhelmed. He said in “Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, Peopling of Countries, etc.” (1751):
“Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased.”
So get this. Some of the eighteenth century founding fathers only thought English and Danish people were white. Even Swedes and Germans were “swarthy.” French certainly were. ..
The Catholic working-class immigrants of the wave that came in 1880-1924 were not initially accepted as white by the propertied Protestants who got to decide these things. You should go back and look what they said about “Slavic” Poles or about the Irish.
Take Italians, many of whom emigrated to Latin America. Those who immigrated straight to New York and Rhode Island are now considered “white” (and make up nearly 16% of that category). Those who went to Mexico first and then came to the US more recently are “Latinos.” So is what is being said is that the Italian-American families who came in 1895 are threatened by the ones who came from Latin America in the 1990s? Well, that is apparently part of what is being said.
Moreover, what in the world is the difference between Catalans in northeast Spain and Provencale people in southern France? Yet Catalans who went to Colombia and recently came to the US are Latinos. Provencales people who emigrated directly to New Jersey in the 19th century are white. Why?
American history is written from a Massachusetts point of view, with the English at the center of it. But the Portuguese preceded them in North Carolina (are they Latinos?) And what is now California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas etc. were originally Spain and then Mexico before the US snarfed them up, and they also preceded the English as settlements from the old world in the new. Tim Kaine has pointed out that Spanish was spoken in North America before English. So why not write American history starting with the Southwest and moving east? By the way, in New Mexico the old hidalgo landed class (who are still there) calls themselves Hispanics, doesn’t like to be mixed up with recent Mexican immigrants, and views “white” immigrants to New Mexico as recent arrivals and perhaps not the most cultured, either. Hispanics are often viewed as “immigrants” by the ignorant. But they were there in New Mexico, and the Californios were in California, way before the Irish or Italians or most Germans came to North America. They didn’t immigrate, the US kidnapped them and made them citizens. If the US wanted to be “white” and wanted to categorize Spanish-speakers as non-white (why?), then it shouldn’t have stolen half of Mexico and added it to itself in the Treaty of Guadaloupe Hidalgo.
https://www.juancole.com/2016/11/coulter-franklin-either.html

The American xenophobia & racism r deeply rooted in the Anglo-Saxon history & mentality. I'm sure that if a war with China happens, ethnic Chinese here will be treated as the 5th column, like many Muslims after 9/11/01 & the Japanese (except those in the Army) after 12/7/41 were.
https://www.juancole.com/?s=white+not

The Italians were apparently not considered as White back in the 19th and early 20th century, but that later changed when Al Capone and the Italian crime "families" essentially murdered their way to respectability in the U.S.A.