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    F-35 Lightning II: News thread

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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:55 am

    Atmosphere wrote:When the Su-57 crashed once (as the F-22 did, three times), everyone went apeshit and called the entire program a failure.
    But When the F-35 and it's service equipment fails somehow, it's just "normal".
    It appears certain humans have degraded into a state of permanent delusion without the use of substances, fascinating.

    It is compensatory projection from people with a subconscious inadequacy complex. Nobody who is not off the rails would
    engage in such obvious BS. Modern western consumer culture has produced millions of mentally damaged people. This is
    evident from the frothing hysteria of SJWs degenerates infesting Twitter and other social media.

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    Post  Finty Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:30 am

    Yes there may have been overreactions but remember there’s a lot more F-35s in service than SU-57s so one loss of a 35 will have less impact on overall the fleet size. Maybe that’s why.
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    Post  Arrow Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:11 am

    They still have around 700 F 35 Very Happy
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    Post  lyle6 Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:06 pm

    Finty wrote:Yes there may have been overreactions but remember there’s a lot more F-35s in service than SU-57s so one loss of a 35 will have less impact on overall the fleet size. Maybe that’s why.
    Uh, that's not how air fleets work. If an aircraft keeps slam dunking into the ground (or water) that type gets grounded across the board, so military readiness is impacted more, not less. Well, that's if it happened to a normal airforce and not in a Lockheeb subsidies program masquerading as one.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:58 pm

    A poster on that thread said that it looked like it might have hit the command centre, it certainly seemed to come in high and close.
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    Post  Backman Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:20 pm

    Finty wrote:Yes there may have been overreactions but remember there’s a lot more F-35s in service than SU-57s so one loss of a 35 will have less impact on overall the fleet size. Maybe that’s why.

    They have been lying and obfuscating about all aspects of the su 57 program for f*cking years. They declared it cancelled in 2018. So no. That's not why.


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    Post  lancelot Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:09 pm

    I remember reading the same BS that the Su-57 was cancelled on The Drivel.  Rolling Eyes

    So much disinformation regarding the status of this program on western news. I mean it is not that hard to know the truth. Just read a couple articles on TASS. The Russian government back then gave pretty decent reports on the status of the program.

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    Post  Finty Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:58 pm

    lyle6 wrote:
    Finty wrote:Yes there may have been overreactions but remember there’s a lot more F-35s in service than SU-57s so one loss of a 35 will have less impact on overall the fleet size. Maybe that’s why.
    Uh, that's not how air fleets work. If an aircraft keeps slam dunking into the ground (or water) that type gets grounded across the board, so military readiness is impacted more, not less. Well, that's if it happened to a normal airforce and not in a Lockheeb subsidies program masquerading as one.

    But it doesn't keep happening. There's approx 600 F-35s in service, only two have been lost this year and maybe 2 last year. The causes of all these incidents have not been confirmed, evidence was suggesting that in the RAF's case, it was due to incompetence rather than a pure technical fault.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:34 am

    The UK F-35s cost 90K pounds per flight hour to maintain... I rather expect inexperience is going to be an ongoing issue because many countries wont be able to afford the flight hours needed to keep sufficient pilots up to date and ready on the type.

    Even just on material losses this is rather bad, and with a VSTOL model the numbers are not likely to get better because mortality rates for VSTOL fighters are traditionally rather high.

    The Su-57 was a brand new serial production model so issues might come up... but the difference is that Sukhoi will investigate what happened and find a solution so it does not keep happening.

    This does not seem to be the case with the F-35 though... problems found get a band aid and a warning sticker added... no discounts, no refunds...
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    Post  Atmosphere Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:28 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Atmosphere wrote:When the Su-57 crashed once (as the F-22 did, three times), everyone went apeshit and called the entire program a failure.
    But When the F-35 and it's service equipment fails somehow, it's just "normal".
    It appears certain humans have degraded into a state of permanent delusion without the use of substances, fascinating.

    It is compensatory projection from people with a subconscious inadequacy complex.   Nobody who is not off the rails would
    engage in such obvious BS.  Modern western consumer culture has produced millions of mentally damaged people.   This is
    evident from the frothing hysteria of SJWs degenerates infesting Twitter and other social media.

    It's would be nice if the SJW infestation stayed in it's own vacuum, they ruin everything they come in contact with.

    @Lancelot
    what would you expect from people who thought that a 900 x 900 mm antenna could fit in a 900 x 700 mm radome space?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:41 pm

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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:40 am

    Impressive video... the pilot didn't eject till after the aircraft was in the water by the look of it...
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    Post  lyle6 Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:35 am

    GarryB wrote:Impressive video... the pilot didn't eject till after the aircraft was in the water by the look of it...
    Didn't seem to have deployed the landing gear in time either. Twisted Evil
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    Post  Hole Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:11 pm

    Little software glitch?
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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:21 pm

    Didn't notice he had his gear up the first time I watched.

    Flat sea and clear sunny day...

    Even with the undercarriage up if the hook was down he might have made it, but it looks like a fuselage fuel tank burst and caught fire, so quite a heavy landing there.

    Any crash you can walk away from is a good one.

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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:25 am

    Accidentally the pilot hit the self-destruct button. Laughing
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:14 pm

    GarryB wrote:Impressive video... the pilot didn't eject till after the aircraft was in the water by the look of it...

    I thought that he ejected at about 16:31:31 on the screen timer, an object shoots off to the left.

    I think the splashes at the front are first the aircraft hitting the sea and then the second as the F-35 explodes as the ship runs over it.

    Now likely that the earlier photos of a pristine F-35 sitting on the surface were indeed photoshopped.

    USN have confirmed this video as real.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:54 pm

    Hole wrote:Accidentally the pilot hit the self-destruct button. Laughing
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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:40 am

    Yes, I think you are right John... I just assumed that landing with your gear up you would stay on the plane until it was off the deck to ensure it didn't veer off and hit the other aircraft on the front of the ship... looks like he wasn't going to stick around to see what happened.
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    Post  Hole Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:41 pm

    Now some americans claim that the chinese had put some top secret sonic weapon close to the ship to bring down the plane. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  AlfaT8 Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:43 pm

    Hole wrote:Now some americans claim that the chinese had put some top secret sonic weapon close to the ship to bring down the plane. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    So in effect, they used the Force.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:54 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:

    Now it's 'Shanghai-Havana Syndrome?' lol1 clown

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:24 am

    in my personal opinion, the F-35 is an flying turd. and it always will be.

    It is unsuitable for combat, and only serves to make money by western arms manufacturers.

    the only way the pilots survive any engagement with other figher aircraft, is by ejecting from their aircraft.
    "but its stealth!".

    Yeah.....about that......
    how do you think all that rust will affect stealth?.

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