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    Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia

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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:05 am

    andalusia wrote:What do you guys think of Obama's comment about Russia?

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/16/obama-says-russians-cant-change-us-or-weaken-us.html?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=104172328&yptr=yahoo

    NATO, and especially US, hypocrisy is on a whole other plane. To posture and bleat about a fake action while routinely perpetrating
    such actions around the world in the name of self-interest (e.g. manifest destiny, exceptionalism, self-anointed global leadership) takes
    the cake. It really is a form of depravity.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:50 am

    If Obama knew anything about Russia or Russians the international situation between Russia and the US would be rather different now than it is.

    Obama said Hillary was the best potential candidate for US president so even the US population does not listen to him... why should we?
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    Post  Austin Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:13 am

    Obama is Russophobic , All his statements indicate that.

    He did no good to make Russia-US relation better on the contrary it is at the worst since 25 years.

    By his own admission he Arm Twisted Even Europeans against developing better relations with Russia.

    He wants to poision the pond before he leaves so that the next president is hampered by so called CIA/DNI analysis etc

    Hillary Clinton win was suppose to be BO 3.0 but American people had different ideas and that is difficult for him personally to accept that he lost his own legacy and could not make Hillary Win.

    Now he wants to blame the loss on Russia to keep Democrats from taking the blame , Very Poor Leadership from BO and wont help his Nation or his Party if they dont own it up.
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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:48 am

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo published earlier on Wednesday a caricature on the Russian Defense Ministry Tu-154 aircraft crash in the Black Sea depicting the falling aircraft and a musician from the Alexandrov military choir, who is making a wailing sound "aaaaaa." The caption says "The repertoire of the army choir is expanding."

    The SOBs of Charlie Hebdo, again.

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201612281049087134-hebdo-russia-caricature/
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    Post  Godric Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:05 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo published earlier on Wednesday a caricature on the Russian Defense Ministry Tu-154 aircraft crash in the Black Sea depicting the falling aircraft and a musician from the Alexandrov military choir, who is making a wailing sound "aaaaaa." The caption says "The repertoire of the army choir is expanding."

    The SOBs of Charlie Hebdo, again.

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201612281049087134-hebdo-russia-caricature/

    Charlie Hebdo = Scummy french w@nkers
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    Post  Guest Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:40 pm

    Few of many cheering, comments on local newspapers by Muslims (mainly from Bosnia, some from Western Serbia) regarding Russian aircraft crash:

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    "I am never happy about someones else pain and suffering but in the times when so many children are dying, they wished to sing. Well they sang their last song."

    Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia - Page 15 PfhTfx3

    "I dont care about criminals that bombed civilians, women and children in Syria, especially Aleppo. Karma is irresistable, it was just an instant justice".

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    "On morbid assigment they were, in foreign country to killers they sang, and in Black sea they landed".

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    "What a tragedy, fuck them. Allah punished them, big thanks, and this is just the beginning".

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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:54 am

    So if they died because it was Allahs will then the women and children and presumably innocent cats and dogs being murdered every second in Syria must be Allahs will too.

    All credit to the great humanitarian Assad... building so many schools and childrens hospitals... it is almost like he knew terrorist scum were going to try to take over his country...

    This Allah seems to be a sadistic war loving prick.
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    Post  andalusia Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:24 pm

    Hey Garry B and others. There was a politician on CNN who was saying that the Baltic countries of Latvia, Lithanian and Estonia are afraid that Russia will invade them. They are members of NATO. They say that what happened in Ukraine could happen to them. I want to know is all of this true? Could somebody explain to me the relationship between Russia and the Baltic states?
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    Post  franco Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:51 am

    andalusia wrote:Hey Garry B and others. There was a politician on CNN who was saying that the Baltic countries of Latvia, Lithanian and Estonia are afraid that Russia will invade them. They are members of NATO.  They say that what happened in Ukraine could happen to them.   I want to know is all of this true? Could somebody explain to me the relationship between Russia and the Baltic states?

    Why do you or this politician think that Russia would want to invade Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia?
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:32 am

    Hey Garry B and others. There was a politician on CNN who was saying that the Baltic countries of Latvia, Lithanian and Estonia are afraid that Russia will invade them. They are members of NATO. They say that what happened in Ukraine could happen to them. I want to know is all of this true? Could somebody explain to me the relationship between Russia and the Baltic states?

    Hahahahaahahaha... Bloody Hilarious...

    They say what happened in the Ukraine could happen to them?

    I don't think the US wants to payroll another three coups to overthrow legitimate elected governments in that region as the current ones are already their bitches... it would be a waste of money... not that that would normally stop them.

    The Baltic states are rabid anti russians... just like the Poles and the majority of the Ukrainians... including those being bombed by the government in Kiev at the moment.

    They are the whiny states that complain yet have a better lifestyle than the rest of the country when they were part of the Soviet Union, and now that they are out all of their problems are Russias fault. Russia is better rid of them and does not want them back. They can be the EUs problem.

    But their anti Russia attitude was useful when Abummer was in power, but now Hilary got some water thrown on her and she melted away they are scared that Trump might not want to treat Russia as an enemy and all of a sudden they are stuck in the middle of the bed they have made.

    They used to have a lot of trade with their neighbour Russia but with all the anti Russia crap they have proudly cut those ties to show their loyalty to the EU and US.

    Their choice now is to either drum up EU support for more NATO forces in their country that they can sponge off of, or try to return to old relations with Russia... and I hope in the case of the latter that Russia tells them to go fuck themselves.

    Now instead of moving freight through foreign (ie baltic) ports the Russians are using their own ports and keeping the money they used to spend in foreign countries...
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    Post  Kimppis Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:00 pm

    1. Maidanists are rewriting history. Ukraine used to be an integral part of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union. Baltic states were independent between the world wars, Ukraine was not.

    2. Large parts of Ukraine were reasonably pro-Russian only a few years ago. The big issue is that Ukraine has been a mess since 1991, that's why the coup, revolution and anti-Russian hysteria were possible in the first place. First and foremost this whole thing is an internal conflict.

    3. Baltic countries are stable and they have reasonably high living standards, especially Estonia, Ukraine is the opposite. They have no large pro-Russian regions, unlike Ukraine. (Crimea, in particular, and Donbass are pro-Russian, yes, really.)

    And regarding the BS propaganda which is saying that Ukraine's failure as a state is Russia's fault: Ukraine was not a puppet state: the country was not even militarily allied with Russia, unlike many other post-Soviet states that have been much more succesful. FFS, compare Belarussian (aka "the last dictatorship in Europe") living standards to Ukraine.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:58 am

    Can we post articles from 15 years ago?

    This is what The Atlantic published in 2001:

    Russia Is Finished

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/05/russia-is-finished/302220/
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    Post  Svyatoslavich Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:50 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Can we post articles from 15 years ago?

    This is what The Atlantic published in 2001:

    Russia Is Finished

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/05/russia-is-finished/302220/
    Well, they keep saying that Russia is finished up to this day. The more they say this, the more Russia becomes strong and prosperous.
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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:50 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Can we post articles from 15 years ago?

    This is what The Atlantic published in 2001:

    Russia Is Finished

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/05/russia-is-finished/302220/

    Perfect sample of wishful thinking and fantasy projection.   It seems that most western media product is of this class of
    worthless excrement.   If that is hard to believe then look at all the pieces on Russia's economy after the 2014
    sanctions.   Russia should have collapsed by now according to this spew.

    thesaker.is/stratfors-and-others-forecasts-for-russia-in-2016-hit-or-miss-by-scott/
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    Post  whir Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:22 pm

    More retardation in the name of Russian values.

    BBC wrote:Russia: Anger at move to soften domestic violence law

    The legislation would define first assaults which cause less serious injuries as administrative - rather than criminal - offences.

    MP Yelena Mizulina, who introduced the bill, says people should not be jailed and labelled a criminal "for a slap".

    On Wednesday, some 368 lawmakers voted in favour of what has been dubbed the "slapping law" by some Russian media outlets. One deputy voted against the plans, another abstained.

    The proposed legislation concerns both parents' treatment of their children, and husbands and wives treatment of each other.
    It applies to violent actions causing injuries which do not require hospital treatment or cause the victim to require sick leave from work, according to Olga Batalina, one of its authors.

    Under the proposal, the first offence would not be considered criminal, and punishment would be limited to a fine or community service, but subsequent incidents could still be considered criminal and carry potential jail terms.

    Ms Mizulina, a highly conservative lawmaker, began promoting the bill in July, in the wake of amendments to the criminal code which made beating a family member a criminal offence.

    Penalties for offences should not "contradict the system of social values that society holds on to", the Moscow Times quoted her as saying.

    "In Russian traditional family culture parent-child relationships are built on the authority of the parents' power... The laws should support that family tradition."

    In November she wrote that "domestic violence is a normal way of life" in Russia.
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    Post  Svyatoslavich Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:18 pm

    I don't know this law, but at a first glance, I think that once more the West is making a fuzz over nothing. Like the "homosexual propaganda law" some years ago, which many said would lead to gays and lesbians to be imprisoned, tortured and executed, when in fact it just allows fine penalties for those who propagate homosexuality (mainly by public display of it) to unwilling people and children, which for me is a very balanced and moderate law.
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    Post  par far Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:40 pm

    A very good video showing how Russophobia is being use.

    https://southfront.org/the-political-uses-of-russophobia/
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    Post  Svyatoslavich Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:17 am

    Just as I thought, the global mass media is distorting the bill to make it seems what it is not:
    http://russia-insider.com/en/russia-legalizing-domestic-violence-says-lying-fakestream-media-so-it-must-be-true/ri18695
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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:35 am

    The same fake media shtick as usual from the precious NATO mass media. It only works because most people in NATO are suckers
    and lap up this sh*t like Gospel. Funny how in the "totalitarian" USSR nobody sucked mass media cock like the proles do in the
    "freedom loving west".
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:49 pm

    kvs wrote:The same fake media shtick as usual from the precious NATO mass media.   It only works because most people in NATO are suckers
    and lap up this sh*t like Gospel.   Funny how in the "totalitarian" USSR nobody sucked mass media cock like the proles do in the
    "freedom loving west
    ".
    ... because those who didn't were all dead by early 1940s?
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:47 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:.........
    ... because those who didn't were all dead by early 1940s?

    Where else did we see that before? .... nope, drawing a blank here...
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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:35 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    kvs wrote:The same fake media shtick as usual from the precious NATO mass media.   It only works because most people in NATO are suckers
    and lap up this sh*t like Gospel.   Funny how in the "totalitarian" USSR nobody sucked mass media cock like the proles do in the
    "freedom loving west
    ".
    ... because those who didn't were all dead by early 1940s?

    NATO pinehead confirms NATO pinhead characteristics. Population of the USSR at breakup was 286.7 million. As a NATO retard
    you must think these were not actual humans. Go back to worshiping Hitler in private, NATzO drone.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:45 am

    Let's not discuss this further.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:49 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Let's not discuss this further.

    Good suggestion. Especially given the fact that we all went from domestic violence law to geopolitics & modern history in 5 steps give or take...

    Must be a record.
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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:26 am

    1) There is no story here other than the fake NATzO propaganda.   BTW, the NATzO MSM never reported on the original
    domestic violence bill but report on the correction to this bill and lie, lie, lie about the nature of the correction.

    2) The pattern of NATzO MSM lies indicates that the typical MSM consumer in NATzO is low IQ.   They will believe whatever
    inconsistent, contextless claim that is made.   For example, that Russians hacked the US vote.   Hacking implies computer
    break in and not RT propaganda.   So the typical NATzO sap actually believes that Russians hacked the US balloting system.
    This is physically impossible without actually accessing each ballot machine.   The saps imagine that tens of thousands
    of Russian "hackers" went to US ballot locations and hacked ballot machines.    

    3) During the USSR period the vast majority of its population did not take the media at face value.   Unlike in NATzO there
    was never any benefit of the doubt given and people openly mocked the hamfisted BS style of Pravda, etc.    Very
    similar hamfisted BS is being spewed by the NATzO MSM but the average NATzO sap believes it. The caricature of Soviet
    citizens and Russian citizens being slaves of "state run propaganda" is NATzO propaganda, which of course NATzO saps
    believe without question.

    4) The NATzO drone in this thread invoked the 1940s.   This was supposed to refute an observation relevant for the 1960s, 70s, 80s
    and today.  Funny how NATzO saps always dismiss without any further consideration anyone who points out their historical
    perversions.   As usual, one standard for NATzO and another for anyone else.   The quintessential colonialist mindset.   NATzO saps
    need to scurry on off to other fora to jerk themselves off about how superior they are.

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