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    Post  Werewolf Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:00 pm

    OminousSpudd wrote:Ubisoft's Rainbow Six Siege Spetznas preview. Spot the BS. Also, the comments section is legendary.



    This is conditioning in the West.

    Every game created by western game developers implement this propaganda filled garbage to create the picture their own heads are filled with.

    Go on any video game and pick up a russian designed weapon you will notice that the weapon has rust on it, lot of scratches to show its worn out, has always less accuracy then any pumpgun and visors are always dirty, uncleaned and bad designed with fat marks that cover half the target and make it horrible to use. That is not exception but general things western companies implement to keep the line of "russia old rusted junk" politics, be it on purpose with full knowledge of truth or just because they have already reached the 3rd generation where they believe everything and just repeat it as they see it, it does not matter that is something that is done on purpose.

    All western weapons are most off the time highly accurate, very low recoil, highly polished, no scratches or dirt on scopes to give them a better look, more modern, not worn out. That is subtile propaganda that is constantly used in Hoolywood and videogame industry.

    Same thing with this, they have no jack shit idea of russian equipment and do not even care that is why they have "self-made explosives" and not military degree explosives, which are russians are known to have highly sophisticated stuff for almost every imaginable job.
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:10 pm

    Whats funny is that apparently in the game these guys are some of the most effective/fun to play as.  At least that is what the people on 4chan /v/ were saying.
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    Post  OminousSpudd Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:37 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:Ubisoft's Rainbow Six Siege Spetznas preview. Spot the BS. Also, the comments section is legendary.



    This is conditioning in the West.

    Every game created by western game developers implement this propaganda filled garbage to create the picture their own heads are filled with.

    Go on any video game and pick up a russian designed weapon you will notice that the weapon has rust on it, lot of scratches to show its worn out, has always less accuracy then any pumpgun and visors are always dirty, uncleaned and bad designed with fat marks that cover half the target and make it horrible to use. That is not exception but general things western companies implement to keep the line of "russia old rusted junk" politics, be it on purpose with full knowledge of truth or just because they have already reached the 3rd generation where they believe everything and just repeat it as they see it, it does not matter that is something that is done on purpose.

    All western weapons are most off the time highly accurate, very low recoil, highly polished, no scratches or dirt on scopes to give them a better look, more modern, not worn out. That is subtile propaganda that is constantly used in Hoolywood and videogame industry.

    Same thing with this, they have no jack shit idea of russian equipment and do not even care that is why they have "self-made explosives" and not military degree explosives, which are russians are known to have highly sophisticated stuff for almost every imaginable job.

    Which is why Battlefield 4 even with all its money grubbing still managed to slightly impress me with their balanced take on all of the weapons implemented... Their last gun package update contained three Russian weapons (two of them very obscure in Western circles) and only one Western, which was British at that. Also the RU soldier's VDV gear is the most badass of the lot in my opinion.

    Also the best gun in the game is hands down the AEK-971.

    So it can be done...

    This representation of GRU/FSB Spetznas (they probably don't even know themselves) or whatever is so ludicrous I think there was probably interest money behind it.
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:08 am

    Werewolf wrote:This is conditioning in the West.

    Every game created by western game developers implement this propaganda filled garbage to create the picture their own heads are filled with.

    Go on any video game and pick up a russian designed weapon you will notice that the weapon has rust on it, lot of scratches to show its worn out, has always less accuracy then any pumpgun and visors are always dirty, uncleaned and bad designed with fat marks that cover half the target and make it horrible to use. That is not exception but general things western companies implement to keep the line of "russia old rusted junk" politics, be it on purpose with full knowledge of truth or just because they have already reached the 3rd generation where they believe everything and just repeat it as they see it, it does not matter that is something that is done on purpose.

    All western weapons are most off the time highly accurate, very low recoil, highly polished, no scratches or dirt on scopes to give them a better look, more modern, not worn out. That is subtile propaganda that is constantly used in Hoolywood and videogame industry.

    Same thing with this, they have no jack shit idea of russian equipment and do not even care that is why they have "self-made explosives" and not military degree explosives, which are russians are known to have highly sophisticated stuff for almost every imaginable job.

    I have just played American Conquest: Fight Back and I confirmed most of the thing you said.

    In the game Russia is presented as the weakest and most backward European faction. But the fact is that Russia was one of the first ones who use barrel-drilled muskets, and Russia is the center of industrial revolution of Eastern Europe.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:09 pm

    Arma II and Combat Mission games portrayed Soviet/Russian equipment well. In both of them you can play as Russians and in CMBS there is an entire Russian campaign in which you fight as Russians against Ukrainians and Americans.
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    Post  Werewolf Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:42 pm

    OminousSpudd wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:Ubisoft's Rainbow Six Siege Spetznas preview. Spot the BS. Also, the comments section is legendary.



    This is conditioning in the West.

    Every game created by western game developers implement this propaganda filled garbage to create the picture their own heads are filled with.

    Go on any video game and pick up a russian designed weapon you will notice that the weapon has rust on it, lot of scratches to show its worn out, has always less accuracy then any pumpgun and visors are always dirty, uncleaned and bad designed with fat marks that cover half the target and make it horrible to use. That is not exception but general things western companies implement to keep the line of "russia old rusted junk" politics, be it on purpose with full knowledge of truth or just because they have already reached the 3rd generation where they believe everything and just repeat it as they see it, it does not matter that is something that is done on purpose.

    All western weapons are most off the time highly accurate, very low recoil, highly polished, no scratches or dirt on scopes to give them a better look, more modern, not worn out. That is subtile propaganda that is constantly used in Hoolywood and videogame industry.

    Same thing with this, they have no jack shit idea of russian equipment and do not even care that is why they have "self-made explosives" and not military degree explosives, which are russians are known to have highly sophisticated stuff for almost every imaginable job.

    Which is why Battlefield 4 even with all its money grubbing still managed to slightly impress me with  their balanced take on all of the weapons implemented... Their last gun package update contained three Russian weapons (two of them very obscure in Western circles) and only one Western, which was British at that. Also the RU soldier's VDV gear is the most badass of the lot in my opinion.  

    Also the best gun in the game is hands down the AEK-971.

    So it can be done...

    This representation of GRU/FSB Spetznas (they probably don't even know themselves) or whatever is so ludicrous I think there was probably interest money behind it.

    Well they indeed have managed to have some good features for the russians. The russians in BF4 have as the only faction good camoflauge that actually matches real camoflauge as a whole, not like the americans with camoflauge while running with completley different camo BP vest which breaks the camoflauge effect as whole. Duct tape on helmets, BP vest and sometimes white markings on a dark camoflauge is not really the best. I know duct tape is used like in real life to write down names on the backside of helmets so comerades know who is infront of them and so on but it is handled rather poor in comparision to how it used in reality. Also BF4 still has that horrible stereotypes of subtile propaganda, almost every russian visor is dirty even on tanks, they have dirt all over their sights, rust here and there and almost nothing is smooth surface while complete opposite is true for US. The other thing is that broke the entire gameplay to me is that Mi-28 since BF3 was a brick in air, while all other vehicles Z-10 vs AH-1Z in BF4 have no significant difference in flight characteristics. You can see such stereotypes abused in most games especially in CoD, a horde of russian soldiers an evil empire that managed to enslave entire humanity, but one fucking american average soldier manages to repell the entire Soviet Russian army. RPG's never fly straight they spiral like a Atak missile on steroids, guns have more rust on them then they have wood which is just another subtle propaganda that indicates backwardedness, even tho wooden stocks are preferable by soldiers choice over plastic. Lot of such things are seen in majority of games such bias that is hard to be ignored.
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    Post  George1 Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:49 pm

    Bravery of Soviet Soldiers Who Freed Poland Incontestable - Lech Walesa

    Former President of Poland Lech Walesa said that bravery of Soviet soldiers in liberating Poland from the Nazis, is incontestable.

    GDANSK (Poland) (Sputnik) – The bravery of Soviet soldiers in liberating Poland from the Nazis, is incontestable, former President of Poland Lech Walesa said.

    "Poles have no complaints against the [Soviet] soldiers. Soviet soldiers had been perishing and freeing Poland. This is all true," Walesa told RIA Novosti in an interview, adding that the desecration of monuments to Soviet servicemen is not normal.

    Warsaw has complaints against Soviet leaders, not its people, he added.

    "Everything is ok with Russian people but Russians have no luck with their leaders. After all, Russian people also paid a high price for communism," Walesa added.

    Moscow has repeatedly protested the demolition and dismantling of Soviet monuments in Poland in recent months.

    In September, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova announced that Russia demanded that Poland implement measures to stop the destruction of Soviet monuments.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151109/1029809567/soviet-soldiers-poland.html#ixzz3qzgXNt16
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:47 am

    I don't feel that a new thread is necessary but there are some myths that have no direct connections to russian military or history but tangle indirectly to it and i will post them here in same manner like before. Would urge others to do aswell.
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    Post  George1 Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:09 pm

    Kiev to remove Soviet emblem from landmark WWII monument

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    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/world/850952
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:11 am

    A paper written by the Greco-British journalist Marcus Papadopoulos, detailing the rampant Russophobia in the Western world:

    RUSSOPHOBIA: AN INGRAINED AND UNOFFICIAL POLICY OF THE WEST
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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:13 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:A paper written by the Greco-British journalist Marcus Papadopoulos, detailing the rampant Russophobia in the Western world:

    RUSSOPHOBIA: AN INGRAINED AND UNOFFICIAL POLICY OF THE WEST

    Western elites are high on their own hubris. This never ending hate campaign against Russia will not make Russia go away.
    The 1917 situation is not going to repeat itself since there is "unstable basic state" which can be disrupted with some agitation
    and propaganda. These western elites also forget that there is not a lot of love for the west by most of the people on this
    planet since they have been on the receiving end of western colonialist aggression for centuries.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:12 am

    kvs wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:A paper written by the Greco-British journalist Marcus Papadopoulos, detailing the rampant Russophobia in the Western world:

    RUSSOPHOBIA: AN INGRAINED AND UNOFFICIAL POLICY OF THE WEST

    Western elites are high on their own hubris.   This never ending hate campaign against Russia will not make Russia go away.
    The 1917 situation is not going to repeat itself since there is "unstable basic state" which can be disrupted with some agitation
    and propaganda.  These western elites also forget that there is not a lot of love for the west by most of the people on this
    planet since they have been on the receiving end of western colonialist aggression for centuries.  

    ...You'll love this (I would like to hear sepheronx and Werewolf's opinon on this as well)...My God, if there was even more reason for Russia to leave PACE, now it's promoting Russian Liberast-holes like Kasyanov (the West's go-to Liberast-hole), a guy with a monumental '2%'  Rolling Eyes  support of the total Russian population:

    PACE and Kasyanov
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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:21 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:A paper written by the Greco-British journalist Marcus Papadopoulos, detailing the rampant Russophobia in the Western world:

    RUSSOPHOBIA: AN INGRAINED AND UNOFFICIAL POLICY OF THE WEST

    Western elites are high on their own hubris.   This never ending hate campaign against Russia will not make Russia go away.
    The 1917 situation is not going to repeat itself since there is "unstable basic state" which can be disrupted with some agitation
    and propaganda.  These western elites also forget that there is not a lot of love for the west by most of the people on this
    planet since they have been on the receiving end of western colonialist aggression for centuries.  

    ...You'll love this (I would like to hear sepheronx and Werewolf's opinon on this as well)...My God, if there was even more reason for Russia to leave PACE, now it's promoting Russian Liberast-holes like Kasyanov (the West's go-to Liberast-hole), a guy with a monumental '2%'  Rolling Eyes  support of the total Russian population:

    PACE and Kasyanov

    Yes, Russia should have left PACE a long time ago. All it ever got at PACE was blood libel defamation and open support for sedition inside Russia.
    Misha 2% refers to his bribe rate. I doubt he has even 1% of support.

    All these liberast clowns in Russia should just move to NATO, their promised land.
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    Post  Werewolf Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:27 pm

    Seriously what comment do you expect of me about this ultraliberal scum all traitors to the people which should be always ruled with death sentence, and only option should be cruel or quick. I really look forward to nürnberger prozesse against scum like Merkel for genocide against german people and all members of all fucking parties that are owned by USA same should be done in russia, fuck the west, nobody wants the west where the future lies in Gendermainstream opsessed inbreds who were indoctrinated to beLIEve to be the crowned species while being the least healthy, far from being even normal intelligence and far away from having a future. Nobody should care and just put more focus and effort in destroying Dollar and all western uncivilized domanation attempts.
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    Post  George1 Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:07 am

    UKRAINE TODAY's bullshit, Russia created daesh lol1 scratch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qyLlkU6aCc
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    Post  sepheronx Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:38 am

    George1 wrote:UKRAINE TODAY's bullshit, Russia created daesh lol1 scratch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qyLlkU6aCc

    They didn't even try. And the comments are equally as retarded.
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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:12 pm

    Sincerely I want to ask, at the moment, in Russia, U.S. and Western countries, are there any people who honestly believe "Russia ruble is weaker and weaker and that means Russian economy is collapse" ?

    Recently I happened to witness a number of sub-human who repeats these lies from times to times and I had to repeat the same explanation again and again to show that they are being fooled by Wall Street Propaganda.

    So I wonder, in the international scale, how many individuals are still believeing in such lies ?

    BTW this morning I just happened to hear somebody say "Obama oil shale will crush Russian oil industry...".
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:05 pm

    I just got stricken by cecity and partial loss of hearing after that UAToday string.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:40 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Sincerely I want to ask, at the moment, in Russia, U.S. and Western countries, are there any people who honestly believe "Russia ruble is weaker and weaker and that means Russian economy is collapse" ?

    Recently I happened to witness a number of sub-human who repeats these lies from times to times and I had to repeat the same explanation again and again to show that they are being fooled by Wall Street Propaganda.

    So I wonder, in the international scale, how many individuals are still believeing in such lies ?

    BTW this morning I just happened to hear somebody say "Obama oil shale will crush Russian oil industry...".
    Well, people who are ignorant on how economics work and how foreign exchanges work believe the crap.  The same people will also ignore any other news that counters it.  Ignorance is a bliss.

    Simply ask these people "how?" And they will never explain other than "according to "x" news, they say reason "y"", in otherwords, parrot what is being fed to them.  So what you can do is already have a prepared document/speech explaining why they are wrong. Then they usually have nothing to counter with other than repeating what they first said and thats all.

    It really breaks down for pure ignorance.  And as for shale oil, then simply point them to the direction of their beloved western news that is showing oil companies going belly up in US and Canada.
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    Post  OminousSpudd Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:24 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Sincerely I want to ask, at the moment, in Russia, U.S. and Western countries, are there any people who honestly believe "Russia ruble is weaker and weaker and that means Russian economy is collapse" ?

    Recently I happened to witness a number of sub-human who repeats these lies from times to times and I had to repeat the same explanation again and again to show that they are being fooled by Wall Street Propaganda.

    So I wonder, in the international scale, how many individuals are still believeing in such lies ?

    BTW this morning I just happened to hear somebody say "Obama oil shale will crush Russian oil industry...".

    Oh, all the time. "Rush-a's economy is sunk, Putin has driven it into the ground, Russia will collapse anyday now!!1one!! UK haz same defense budget as Russia, so Russia weak, I wanna believe!"  angel
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    Post  kvs Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:22 pm

    "Russia is a midget - I'll put her on her knees." Karl the 12th, XVIII century.
    Sweden forever lost great power status.

    "I will conquer backward Russia." Friedrich, the mid-eighteenth century. In 1759,
    the Russian army entered Berlin.

    "Russia is a colossus with feet of clay." Napoleon, XIX century. In 1814 the Russian
    army took Paris.

    "I will conquer the USSR by the end of the year." Hitler, the twentieth century.
    In 1945 he committed suicide when the Soviet army entered Berlin.

    Who's next?...

    Found on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fIlW5uRa1E&lc=z12nvv2xyzebebr2a22gtbzqqq3rvj1c5

    A peculiar western disease. They always project inferiority and weakness onto Russia and then get their
    asses handed to them on a platter when they try to invade.

    Obama and the rest of the NATO clowns are living up to this 1000 year tradition.
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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:02 am

    @kvs:

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:11 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:@kvs:

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    All the examples cited by that clown are sideshow engagements. The western allies only got serious during WWII only after it
    became clear that Stalin would roll all the way to the Atlantic Ocean, namely in the last 11 months of the war. This short period
    between the opening of the second front and the end of the war is why many ignorant westerners think that the west won WWII.
    The eastern front consumed 80% of Nazi resources and Hitler's campaign started to fail after 1943 and Stalingrad. There were no
    "allies" helping the USSR at Stalingrad. The figures for lend-lease shipments also indicate that the most significant amounts came
    after 1943. In the last 11 months of the war the Nazi forces were in full retreat.

    Anyone claiming that Russia was helped by anyone other than itself during the war with Napoleon is a certifiable retard. Napoleon
    was sent packing with almost none of his Grand Armee surviving without any assistance. Napoleon blamed "General Winter" even
    though the main battles he lost were in the fall before the snow and cold arrived:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Borodino

    Russia does not have winter in early September and Napoleon retreated from Moscow in October of 1812 a few weeks before the
    first snow. This Wikipedia link is crappy, they don't really do a good job highlighting how Napoleon was outplayed and couldn't properly
    make use of his advantages.
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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:47 am

    Western propagamedia has a nasty tradition of downplayed the talent of Russian generals during the conflict against Napoleon. For example, they ignored the fact that Kutuzov managed to gauge Napoleon's tactics during 1805 campaign and Russia would have not lost if the Tsar had listened to Kutuzov.

    They also ignored the tactics and strategy of Kutuzov during the 1812 patriotic war, how he trapped Napoleon army inside Russia and cut all supplies for the France.
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