Cyberspec wrote:KiloGolf wrote:Well that took about 1/4 of a century....
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Cyberspec wrote:KiloGolf wrote:Well that took about 1/4 of a century....
CongratulationsThis one takes the prize for the most idiotic recent post...and it was a tight contest
GarryB wrote:We have already been over this.
They had four aircraft in different states of completion.
They finished the two they could finish but because the remaining two didn't have the expensive and complicated titanium box structure the remaining two could not be completed outside of the Ukrainian factory that made them in the first place.
The fact that they have finished the remaining two means they now have a forge able to work with very large titanium structures in a vacuum.... which is pretty much all they needed to make new Blackjacks.
Mil and Kilo.. hope you are happy with your snide cheap shots...
Troll all you want, you just sound like asses.
These planes are going to be built and these engines are going to be upgraded and it might not actually run to schedule, because this is the real world and not fairy fanboi land like the EU you two live in.
Oops, did I say fairy.... sorry, I realise in the western democratic republic of EU that you two live in that might be deemed offensive to faggots and I would be strung up under the nearest lamp post for uttering such an offensive slur on the good name of homos everywhere.
KiloGolf wrote:Cyberspec wrote:KiloGolf wrote:Well that took about 1/4 of a century....
CongratulationsThis one takes the prize for the most idiotic recent post...and it was a tight contest
Try the Ivan Gren thread, you'll find epic stuff there.
Although wait one sec, I can hear a phone ringing. Oh it's 1992, they want their incomplete bombers back
PS. you too, learn to take a joke.
Militarov wrote:
I do not live in the EU, that to start with
Second, i just commented on their cute schedules. How comes they always bring silly schedules and then prolong them for decade on average, whats the point. Stfu and just say, we are working on it, it will be done, report if you are pleased on completion phases during the work and thats it. But no... IN 2019. IT WILL... no it wont, over and over, it wont.
"PAK-FA enters service in 2015."... yea..cute... "Admiral Nakhimov overhaul ends in 2018..."...right... "Ivan Gren...." you got me i hope.
Who is coming up with these dates, someone with Down syndrome? Engine production restart will take long, then they will have issues with modernisations, then they will produce same NK-32 variant for start... same as it was with Izd-30.
I am not "troll", i am just saying what everyone thinks, thats the difference.
Arctic_Fox wrote:This means that they gave up on PAK DA?
"..Tupolev, in addressing two main tasks – the deep modernization of the Tu-160, and the development of the PAK-DA, may have focused on the [Tu-160] bird in hand, while the [PAK-DA] pot of gold at the end of the rainbow can wait," Tuchkov explained. ..
Ultimately, the military analyst noted that the fact that the Tu-160M2 is being created in parallel with the PAK-DA is to the advantage of both aircraft, allowing the modernized plane to receive advanced technologies, while giving the next generation bomber a head start on development.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201706221054888100-tu160m2-prospects-analysis/
The work on Tu-160M2 doesn't mean that PAK-DA is dead. The contrary! If you hear nothing the project livesArctic_Fox wrote:This means that they gave up on PAK DA?
This means that they gave up on PAK DA?
George1 wrote:This unit is a new built one or old Tu-160 modernized to M2 level?
franco wrote:George1 wrote:This unit is a new built one or old Tu-160 modernized to M2 level?
My understanding is it was built using an unfinished frame from the Tu-160 production. Don't believe it has the new engines yet but will be used as a test platform for the new technology.
franco wrote:Not sure however one of our techies may know.
Isos wrote:franco wrote:George1 wrote:This unit is a new built one or old Tu-160 modernized to M2 level?
My understanding is it was built using an unfinished frame from the Tu-160 production. Don't believe it has the new engines yet but will be used as a test platform for the new technology.
Is it more stealthy ? Do they us RAM on it or they use the same materials than before ?
eehnie wrote:Isos wrote:franco wrote:George1 wrote:This unit is a new built one or old Tu-160 modernized to M2 level?
My understanding is it was built using an unfinished frame from the Tu-160 production. Don't believe it has the new engines yet but will be used as a test platform for the new technology.
Is it more stealthy ? Do they us RAM on it or they use the same materials than before ?
Some small external dimmensional change is possible, also it is possible some surface treatment, but change in external materials is more difficult and is unlikely in my opinion.
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