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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:33 pm

    They expected, if not a breakthrough, then some meaningful statement from Putin's message to the Federal Assembly yesterday. But the message itself, in the end, reminded of the speech of the head of a small district, and with gaps in memory. The scale of the problems that concern the president of the largest country is simply ridiculous. What was Putin talking about in front of all the authorities, between senile "khe-khe" and the applause on duty? Let's see.Weak President's Weak Message
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    Post  lancelot Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:34 pm

    At least he can speak without a teleprompter unlike Obama or Biden.
    Also focusing on internal Russian issues is what the President of Russia is supposed to do.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:42 pm

    If the those issues were handled as they should have been, his focusing on them wouldn't be necessary.
    It's too late now, the regime is terminally ill.
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    Post  lancelot Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:31 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:If the those issues were handled as they should have been, his focusing on them wouldn't be necessary.
    It's too late now, the regime is terminally ill.

    Perhaps the Russian regime would not be terminally ill if they surrounded the Russian State Duma with a permanent presence of National Guard troops then?
    Or perhaps Russia needs to copy Uncle Sham's superior Decela Xpress low-speed trains? The pristine clean NY subway? The wonderfully screechy and electric explosive BART?
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bart-explosion_n_1917188

    Their third world class airports? Their broken roads? Their collapsing bridges? Non existent universal medical service? Pay through the nose colleges?

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:41 am

    2 wrongs doesn't make it right. If Russia had our infrastructure (which will soon start to get fixed) as it is now, she would be a completely different & better country. They just now mulling building the Moscow-Ural highway, while we have several auto/railroads crisscrossing between the coasts.
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    Post  lancelot Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:46 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:2 wrongs doesn't make it right. If Russia had our infrastructure (which will soon start to get fixed) as it is now, she would be a completely different & better country. They just now mulling building the Moscow-Ural highway, while we have several auto/railroads crisscrossing between the coasts.

    Not in Alaska you don't. The weather and ground conditions are not the same.
    I could almost bet in a decade US road conditions won't be substantially better and Russia's roads will improve.
    Russian airports and subways are better already. Bridges also.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:13 am

    Not in Alaska you don't.
    we have a railroad, ferries & many airports there, as well as the road across Canada connecting it with CONUS.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:03 pm

    Hahaha... Now Putins criminal plan is to fix Russian problems... no wonder they hate him so much... he does not seem to pay them the attention they deserve... except that is exactly what he is doing...

    America can continue to be the best in the world as much as it likes... when all their police are defunded and assault rifles banned what sort of civil war will they have?

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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:12 pm

    GarryB wrote:Hahaha... Now Putins criminal plan is to fix Russian problems... no wonder they hate him so much... he does not seem to pay them the attention they deserve... except that is exactly what he is doing...

    America can continue to be the best in the world as much as it likes... when all their police are defunded and assault rifles banned what sort of civil war will they have?

    Thick and rich from some yanqui Ukr to be bitching about Russian infrastructure projects. The US road system is literally disintegrating with many bridges disasters waiting to
    happen. And America's corruption is so high that they can't even finish the high speed rail project in California without billions of dollars in losses and complete termination of
    the project.

    What I see here is a rabid need to transfer all sorts of discomfort about American reality onto some remote target of hate. America's international war crimes, domestic
    decay, etc. are fantasy projected onto Russia as a pathetic self-pacification.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:39 pm

    Now Putins criminal plan is to fix Russian problems...
    Finding the underlining problem is substantially better than finding the way to fix problems. Prevention is the best cure.
    Putin & his party r the problem, otherwise Russia's current internal problems wouldn't be there to fix them.
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    Post  lancelot Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:20 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    Not in Alaska you don't.
    we have a railroad, ferries & many airports there, as well as the road across Canada connecting it with CONUS.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:11 pm

    Many paved roads in Russia still not safe to drive on & could use a lot of upkeep!
    They still have no all year round roads connecting most of their North & East Coast with the rest of the nation.
    Today, the commanding heights in Russia are firmly seized by the KGB-FSB. Do you not like what they have turned our country into? But their behavior directly follows from the standard psychological portrait of a Chekist - Putin, Patrushev and Co. behave exactly as befits representatives of their "profession." Vladimir Milov dissects how the brain of a typical Chekist works - from this small session of anatomy, you can easily understand why our Russia has come to such a deep dead end under Putin.
    How does the psychology of a Chekist work?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:26 am

    Tsavofuck the mental-midget can keep lying to himself, US roads are in absolute shit condition. The American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) give's the American road system a 'D' rating.

    Condition & Capacity

    There are over 4 million miles of public roadways in the United States carrying people and goods to their destinations every day. However, these roadways are expected to withstand an ever-increasing volume of traffic each year, with vehicle miles traveled reaching more than 3.2 trillion in 2019, an 18% increase from 2000. Unfortunately, the growing wear and tear to our nation’s roads has left 43% of our public roadways in poor or mediocre condition, a number that has remained stagnant over the past several years. Of note, the vast majority of roads in poor and mediocre conditions tend to be on urban and rural collectors and the non-interstate system, while the interstate system tends to be in good condition. Overall, our deteriorating roads are forcing the nation’s motorists to spend nearly $130 billion each year on extra vehicle repairs and operating costs. Even more troubling is that the number of vehicle miles traveled on roads in “poor” condition has risen from 15% to more than 17% over the last decade.

    Congestion and Reliability

    In the years following the 2008 economic recession, congestion increased by 1% to 3% annually and continues to outpace population growth. In fact, 47% of the nation’s urban interstates are experiencing congestion during peak hours, and 30% of trips taken on the nation’s roads are impacted by severe or extreme congestion. Compounding the problem has been the growth of transportation network companies (TNCs) or ride-sharing services, which initial studies have shown can increase congestion in urban areas. For example, studies have shown that TNCs have accounted for 52% of vehicle delays in San Francisco alone. With estimates that ridesharing trips can reach 97 million daily by 2030, congestion concerns will continue to grow.

    In 2017, congestion caused urban Americans to travel an extra 8.8 billion hours and purchase an extra 3.3 billion gallons of fuel. This congestion costs the nation $166 billion each year, or approximately $1,080 annually in wasted time and fuel for the average auto commuter. This is additional spending to the money already spent on vehicle repair costs due to the condition of the roadways. However, as every lane-mile of road costs approximately $24,000 annually in operation and maintenance, roadway expansion can be more costly and less efficient than operational changes. In fact, in many cases, roadway expansion can lead to induced demand and further sprawl.

    Our nation’s highways and roads move 72%, or nearly $17 trillion, of the nation’s goods; therefore, consumers, industry, and the traveling public require reliable and consistent travel times.

    While everyday congestion remains common in and around many U.S. cities, unexpected congestion is highly troubling for commuters and freight movement. Without consistent, reliable travel times due to irregular and unpredictable backups, it is more difficult for the public and shippers to plan their trips. Even after accounting for unexpected crashes, bad weather, special events, or other irregular congestion, the average American is spending 54 hours each year in traffic congestion, up from 42 hours in 2014. If these trends continue, on average across the U.S., a 60-minute trip is expected to take 106 minutes in 2039. While the Federal Highway Administration is now encouraging agencies to adopt travel time reliability measures to better manage and operate transportation systems, work still needs to be done to create a national database.
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    Funding & Future Need

    The U.S. has been underfunding its roadway maintenance for years, resulting in a $786 billion backlog of road and bridge capital needs. The bulk of the backlog ($435 billion) is in repairing existing roads, while $125 billion is needed for bridge repair, $120 billion for targeted system expansion, and $105 billion for system enhancement (which includes safety enhancements, operational improvements, and environmental projects). However, in 2017, federal, state, and local governments spent just $177 billion on roads and bridges, with an increasing focus on operations and maintenance needs. As roads age and deteriorate, the most recent data estimates that over 62% of roadway spending was directed toward system preservation, a 3% increase from the Federal Highway Administration’s previous reporting period. Therefore over the next 20 years, the projected spending is estimated at $41 billion. However, the funding required to rehabilitate pavement and other operational conditions will average $53 billion annually. We need to increase current spending levels by 29% to address the current and future backlogs.

    Federal investment in roads has historically been paid for from a dedicated, user fee-funded source, the Highway Trust Fund. Unfortunately, the Highway Trust Fund has been teetering on the precipice of insolvency for nearly 15 years due to the limitations of its primary funding source, the federal motor fuels tax. The tax of 18.4 cents per gallon for gasoline and 24.4 cents for diesel has not been raised since 1993, and inflation has cut its purchasing power by 40%. Additionally, new vehicle fuel economy for passenger vehicles has increased by 11 miles per gallon between 1993 and 2017, further reducing revenue. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that by 2022 the Highway Trust Fund is projected to have a $15 billion deficit as current spending levels exceed revenues from user fees that supply the fund.

    Encouragingly, some state lawmakers are helping reverse losses in the federal gas tax purchasing power by making the decision to raise or reform state gas taxes. Since 2010, 37 states have raised or reformed their gas taxes either through legislative action or automatic formulas that regularly adjust the gas tax rate. Furthermore, in 2019 alone, voters in 19 states approved $9.6 billion in one-time and recurring revenue through ballot initiatives. In fact, in 2018 alone, states spent $151.8 billion on state-owned roads, up 9% from the previous year.

    States are also exploring other revenue sources for funding road investment, including mileage-based user fees. With continued improvements in vehicle fuel efficiency and the popularity of hybrid and electric vehicles, mileage-based user fees could present an opportunity for a long-term funding alternative to the motor fuels tax. However, while legislative and voter action has allowed some states to maintain or increase local sources of roadway funding, federal funding remains a significant portion of overall road funding. Put another way, federal partnership for roadway infrastructure is still required to maintain and modernize the system. Additionally, the COVID-19 pandemic has led to a sharp decline in vehicle miles traveled and therefore gas tax receipts in 2020, and the full impact of this revenue loss for state transportation budgets could be as much as $37 billion over 2020 and 2021.
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    Public Safety

    While traffic fatalities increased annually in the early part of the last decade, they have been declining since 2017. Unfortunately, 36,096 people died on the nation’s roadways in 2019, with an increasing proportion of those fatalities suffered by non-motorists, such as pedestrians. In fact, in 2019 over 6,000 pedestrians were killed, marking a 60% increase of pedestrian fatalities from 10 years prior and the highest number since 1988. Additionally, the overall fatality rate in rural areas continues to be disproportionately higher than the fatality rate on all other roadways, and it is estimated that roadway design features are likely a contributing factor in approximately one-third of traffic fatalities. Investments to widen the lane, shoulder, and clearance widths, as well as introducing more center lane rumble strips, lane markings, and sidewalks are infrastructure improvements that could reduce traffic fatalities.

    The National Safety Council attributes the recent decline in traffic fatalities to the implementation of several risk mitigation actions over the last several years. For example, since 2016, 10 cities have embraced Vision Zero models, and more than 30 other cities have joined the Vision Zero Network, which is an alliance of communities committed to making streets safer by taking actions such as redesigning areas that have a history of high crashes and lowering speed limits where possible. Further action from policymakers and communities focused on reducing traffic fatalities through infrastructure, combined with vehicles that are becoming safer through advances in technologies, could reduce the severity of future crashes or prevent them altogether. In fact, some estimates have found that new technologies such as connected vehicles can cut fatal crashes by as much as 86%.


    Resilience & Operations & Maintenance

    The increase in severe weather events is damaging key roadways that serve as community lifelines, while simultaneously increasing maintenance needs, interrupting the normal operation of the nation’s roads, creating delays, and negatively impacting the economy. For example, rising temperatures are estimated to add approximately $19 billion to pavement costs each year by 2040.21 Therefore, engineers are increasingly incorporating the resilience of the road network during the materials selection and design process and using data-driven analysis to make investments. Furthermore, the Federal Highway Administration now requires state transportation departments and planning organizations (DOTs and MPOs) to consider resilience in the planning process and include resilience considerations in asset management plans.

    States are also developing asset management plans to define strategic processes for operating, maintaining, and improving their road networks. Effective plans focus on engineering and economic analysis to identify a structured sequence of maintenance, preservation, repair, rehabilitation, and replacement while promoting actions that will help optimize their networks within the available funding constraints. Every state DOT is now required to have an asset management plan in order to receive federal funding, although many of these plans still do not cover the majority of roadways, as the plans are only required to cover the National Highway System. While asset management plans still have room for improvement, when paired with life-cycle cost analysis, they are helping states set priorities and determine where investments should be made to improve the overall system. Repaving and surface treatments might improve a roadway in the short term, but because underlying roadways continue to age, replacing the road might be a more effective solution for the long-term. Life-cycle cost analysis can help facilitate these decisions.
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    https://infrastructurereportcard.org/cat-item/roads/

    This disingenuous lying nutsack can twist the truth all he wants, it won't make a damn difference lol! Razz clown Razz clown

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:48 am

    Until the Bering Strait bridge/tunnel is built & the US roads get connected with Russian road network, don't worry & compare apples & oranges.
    We will find the means to maintain our roads; Ks of migrants could be hired to fix them for le$$, while Russia still has only ice roads to maintain in Chukotka & Yakutia, relying on railroads & water transport elsewhere.
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    Post  lancelot Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:01 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Until the Bering Strait bridge/tunnel is built & the US roads get connected with Russian road network, don't worry & compare apples & oranges.
    We will find the means to maintain our roads; Ks of migrants could be hired to fix them for le$$, while Russia still has only ice roads to maintain in Chukotka & Yakutia, relying on railroads & water transport elsewhere.

    Ice roads in Yakutia...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A360_Lena_Highway#Reconstruction_of_the_road

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:12 am

    Unlike in China, all those projects take too long to complete & r soaked with corruption; they also serve to line the pockets of billionaires whom Putin gave permission to do business & who pay him back with luxuries.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:15 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Unlike in China, all those projects take too long to complete & r soaked with corruption; they also serve to line the pockets of billionaires whom Putin gave permission to do business & who pay him back with luxuries.

    now now there is plenty of corruption in China but yes they do build shit at a good pace at least
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:42 am

    ..there is plenty of corruption in China..
    true, but she has lifted 100s of Ms out of poverty & her middle class is bigger than the entire RF population.

    Echo of Moscow is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government.
    Mikhail Khodorkovsky, a public figure, is on the air.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:41 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:now now there is plenty of corruption in China ....

    Errr, No.  There isn't, unless you are referring to private enterprise where all the Chinese psychopaths/sociopaths converge (as they can't pursue their desires within the public service or CPC).  Don't confuse the occasional incompetence of public servents or government officials with actual corruption.  

    Real corruption within the Chinese governmental system is ruthlessly hunted down by the CPCs internal affairs investigators and miscreants are put down very hard.  The CPC realises that the main threat to their legitimacy comes from public perceptions of corruption and they have zero tolerance for it.  Bo Xilai was a good example of how even the mightiest in China can't flaught the law. Whatever his actual crimes were, he brought shame onto the CPC and was punished accordingly.  If a hi-flyer like him can be torn down and destroyed, the small fish in the CPC and the public service are under no delusions of what would happen to them if they allowed themselves to be tempted by illicit money.

    The Chinese look to have a very good system to minimise coruption. Chinese are given a choice:

    (1) Go into private enterprise and compete to enrich yourself (within the law) but forget about ever being able to convert your wealth into political power, or
    (2) Go into public service and compete to gain political power, but forget about ever being super wealthy.  You'll be comfortable and will have lifelong economic certainty, but you won't be a billionaire.

    Jack Ma can have more money that God, but has less political power than a post office clerk.  Xi Jinping has enormous executive power but won't ever own his own private jet or hotel complex.

    The problem with the West is that we don't have boundaries between elite private wealth and political influence, so every greedy sociopath (or worse) with a billionaire fortune can twist society into dancing to their nefarous tune.  Our corrupt practises are legalised, and the puppet masters pull the strings to pursue their hidden agendas while their media assets look the other way (or erect smoke screens to conceal their owners activities) and the bought-and-paid-for politicians compete for the next tranche of election-time cash and try to outdo each other with fawning displays of servitude to the concealed Oligarchs and Deep State elites.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:35 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:now now there is plenty of corruption in China ....

    Errr, No.  There isn't, unless you are referring to private enterprise where all the Chinese psychopaths/sociopaths converge (as they can't pursue their desires within the public service or CPC).  Don't confuse the occasional incompetence of public servents or government officials with actual corruption.  

    Real corruption within the Chinese governmental system is ruthlessly hunted down by the CPCs internal affairs investigators and miscreants are put down very hard.  The CPC realises that the main threat to their legitimacy comes from public perceptions of corruption and they have zero tolerance for it.  Bo Xilai was a good example of how even the mightiest in China can't flaught the law. Whatever his actual crimes were, he brought shame onto the CPC and was punished accordingly.  If a hi-flyer like him can be torn down and destroyed, the small fish in the CPC and the public service are under no delusions of what would happen to them if they allowed themselves to be tempted by illicit money.

    The Chinese look to have a very good system to minimise coruption. Chinese are given a choice:

    (1) Go into private enterprise and compete to enrich yourself (within the law) but forget about ever being able to convert your wealth into political power, or
    (2) Go into public service and compete to gain political power, but forget about ever being super wealthy.  You'll be comfortable and will have lifelong economic certainty, but you won't be a billionaire.

    Jack Ma can have more money that God, but has less political power than a post office clerk.  Xi Jinping has enormous executive power but won't ever own his own private jet or hotel complex.

    The problem with the West is that we don't have boundaries between elite private wealth and political influence, so every greedy sociopath (or worse) with a billionaire fortune can twist society into dancing to their nefarous tune.  Our corrupt practises are legalised, and the puppet masters pull the strings to pursue their hidden agendas while their media assets look the other way (or erect smoke screens to conceal their owners activities) and the bought-and-paid-for politicians compete for the next tranche of election-time cash and try to outdo each other with fawning displays of servitude to the concealed Oligarchs and Deep State elites.
    but the issue is also: if you are Xi Jimping why do you need to own a private jet or an hotel? You can use every state aircrafts (and the aircrafts where the presidents or other high government officials fly have any luxus that are normally present in private jets) and have access to high quality resorts for holidays live in government palaces, etc.

    Even when he retires he will be given access to most of the same privileges... Why does he need to be a billionaire?

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:21 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    but the issue is also: if you are Xi Jimping why do you need to own a private jet or an hotel? You can use every state aircrafts (and the aircrafts where the presidents or other high government officials fly have any luxus that are normally present in private jets) and have access to high quality resorts for holidays live in government palaces, etc.

    Even when he retires he will be given access to most of the same privileges... Why does he need to be a billionaire?

    Precisely. Yet another why reason high-placed CPC officials don't feel the need to take advantage of their position to put some extra coin in their pocket.

    Thats how to fight corruption. Take away the need. thumbsup
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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:22 am

    Poland is an enemy of Russia.... wouldn't even care if they did make that plane crash, but the real evidence is pretty clear... the big powerful Polish officials on board wanted to land despite what the pilot or air control said and they died trying.

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    Post  Vann7 Sat May 08, 2021 3:21 am

    Here is an interesting article ,where one of the most over rated , failure analyst ,
    ie..  "The SAKER ".  The same idiot ,that in 2014 was was crying and wrote a report how
    Russia "betrayed" ethnic russians in ukraine ,because Russian army did not invaded Ukraine to reverse the coup , and captured kiev , lol1



    The moron was now trying to lecture Paul Craig Roberts , that is prestigious university professor in economy and know of international politics and knows a lot about washington DC politics ,since he also worked as advisor during the Reagan Administration. So he is someone who knows US politics from the inside , how the US and federal gov over there works and how they think.


    So basically SAKER , replied to an article of Paul Craig Roberts ,that is pro good relations with Russia
    ,that also speak to russian media at times , in international politics topics ,and who oppose the tyranny that is taking control over his american country.



    here is what saker responded to paul craig article .. look how stupid he is.




    Paul Craig Roberts:

    As I have made the same points, I can only applaud Martyanov and The Saker. Where we might differ is in recognizing that endlessly accepting insults and provocations encourages their increase until the only alternative is surrender or war. So, the questions for Andrei Martyanov, The Saker, and for Putin and the Russian government is: How long does turning your other cheek work? Do you turn your other cheek so long as to allow your opponent to neutralize your advantage in a confrontation? Do you turn your other cheek so long that you lose the support of the patriotic population for your failure to defend the country’s honor? Do you turn your other cheek so long that you are eventually forced into war or submission? Do you turn your other cheek so long that the result is nuclear war?


    Saker :

    Here is where I and Paul Craig Roberts differ dramatically on the issue of Russia’s strategy. Yes, I agree with Dr. Roberts that, quoting William Fulbright, “words are deeds and style is substance insofar as they influence men’s mind and behavior”. But while insults and provocations are unpleasant and in some cases do influence mind and behavior of some, with modern day Russia it is different.

    And here is the point–the United States cannot use this power against Russia without being annihilated itself,  


    How stupid that guy can be ? that US "cannot use their power against Russia without being annilated
    itself..   lol1    

    -What about US sanctions , is not this a power they have that they can use at will to break Russia?

    -What about US color revolutions , didn't this interference of US in ukraine and georgia and syria caused massive damage the the Russia national security and caused them to lose hundreds if not thousands of soldiers defending their interest in zones that americans destabilized ?

    -What about US financing and arming ukro nazis and islamic terrorist in syria ?
    didn't this cause a massive damage to Russia national security ,including the destruction of civilians planes with hundreds of russian citizens inside ?

    -How about the chechen wars that lasted 20 years inside russia ,didn't this caused many serious problems and destruction in Russia ? wars that even putin himself told ,that the americans were arming the chechens in his caucasus fighting their army.

    -how about if US manage to get puppets leaders in power france and germany to block their nord stream2 , can't US cause a massive damage to Russia economy ,by getting the right people in power in europe to sanction putins 20 years of energy industry?

    -how about belarus or kazikastan , how about serbia and transnistria, how about armenia war?
    how about venezuela ?  if Saker so stupid , to not see how much damage US can cause in Russia
    national security and russia economy and how many russian soldiers they can kill without them firing a single bullet?

    This is the problem that exist , in any discussion of Russian problems , that in the very few places that exist to discuss freely international politics ,, US vs Russia ,is full idiots "self proclaimed Experts" , who mislead people into their non sense.

    Reality is , the west can hit russia ,all they want ,and without any consequences at all for them , because of the weakness of putin ,that effectively encourage the west to hit harder the next time when they see a weak response from putin after their soldiers being murdered and planes shut down.

    , as long they don't do it directly and hide their hands ,behind ukraine or alqaeda and isis in syria they can continue shooting down russian planes and terrorist will continue killing russian generals ,
    and russia will have to continue using their own budget to feed syrians and venezuelans and ukrainians pro russia too..

    The west don't need at all any nuclear weapon to anniliate russia . this is why they have not modernized their nukes , they don't need nukes to wipe out russia.. the anglo west wiped out the Romanov family ,literary speaking and ended russian empire with their color revolutions , the anglo west also dissolved the soviet union without firing a shot.  So western wars do break nations , they broke russia 2 times already ,they destroyed and disbanded lybia and they doing that to syria ,and now seeking to do it to venezuela. and all that putin can do is complain and nothing else.

    the west can even use biological weapons ,as this covid19 pandemic is and attack russia and get away with it.  Ukraine president himself told ,they were encouraged by the defeat of russia in the fight against armenia.. so Russia can be literary destroyed in a million of pieces without a single nuke being fired or bullet , so they can destroy russia completely using sanctions and colors revolutions and putin will do nothing about it..  because he himself have limited russia , into a response only in the case of the most likely and totally unnessesary scenario that the west don't need to do ,because
    russia alone with putin in power is sinking on its own.. and the massive exodus of russians from russia is a proof of this.   western sanctions are working and since 2014 , russia have lost  a million of young citizens ,that leave the country. And all the west needs to do ,to break russia is continue with their color revolutions and proxy wars and force russia to over extend their military ,through many frontlines causing a signigicant damage on russian budget ,bodyguarding other nations from US attacks.

    Paul craig robets is correct. the putin strategy vs the west is unsustainable . he is not fighting back his enemies , only taking the hits and doing nothing ,he is simply turning the other cheek ,whenever they slap his face and this weakness encourage them to hit harder russia next time ,to throw more cruise missiles at syria , to later do the same on venezuela , to later start attacking their soldiers
    in transnistria. and to arm ukraine to attack russia to provoke russia to invade.

    The west is simply taking advantage of putin passiveness and weakness..
    And if russia don't use military force ,to stop the western provocations ,they need then to use
    business power ,and fight with a high tech race ,that contest western most important business
    that they use to influence the world.

    link to saker stupid article.. is foolishness that the west can't mortally wound russia and avoid ahnilation , they already did it 2 times against russia history and the 3 time ,they will make sure is the last one ,and russia destabilized and split in a thousands of parts.

    putin is only 2 or 3 steps away of facing a color revolution of the west, that they could trigger with more proxy wars breaking their military morale and his popularity forever and being kicked from the nation as their president for incompetent. From syria to ukraine ,the west have plenty of ways to break the polite president and the morale of russian soldiers. But expect new conflicts ,that the west
    can start and there is nothing russia can do to stop them.





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    Post  GarryB Sat May 08, 2021 10:50 am

    -What about US sanctions , is not this a power they have that they can use at will to break Russia?

    What sanctions... there are not enough ties left between the US and Russia for the US to cut that would hurt Russia... most remaining ties will hurt the US more than Russia and that is why they remain uncut.

    Cutting Russia from SWIFT will hurt SWIFT and create an alternative system that will compete with SWIFT for money and trade...

    Do you turn your other cheek so long that you lose the support of the patriotic population for your failure to defend the country’s honor?

    But the bible says turn the other cheek... it does not say turn the other cheek till you can stand it no more...

    These insults will continue because they have nothing else... it is not some strength they have, it is the admission of weakness and no credible logic or moral superiority or advantage.

    Would it improve Russias honour if Putin said Biden was a censored .

    Putin essentially cut diplomatic ties with the US when Biden called him a soulless killer... and that needs to continue.

    Putin does not need to stoop to the level of the west and have tantrums and throw their toys out of the pram... the fact that he is turning Russia to better relations with the rest of the world and essentially isolating the west is the best thing he can do for Russia.

    The US using its power in the international community against Russia has led to Russia becoming more independent and strong... in many ways their military force is rather better than the wests much vaunted military... Russia is rapidly replacing the last remaining old stuff from its inventory and introducing new gear and equipment that in many ways is better than western stuff... and that was thanks to the west and her sanctions forcing her to make her on stuff and become self reliant.

    So basically SAKER , replied to an article of Paul Craig Roberts ,that is pro good relations with Russia

    If PCRs article is pro good relations with Russia then it is wrong... Russia has no future being Americas bitch and America wont accept relations with Russia any other way... they want another EU they can manipulate and order around... Russia does not need that.

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    What Putin said 21 years ago during his inauguration



    In the very first hour of his rule, Vladimir Putin outlined the contours of the future that Russia would then acquire year after year.

    On May 7, 2000, the elected President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin, took office after the solemn inauguration. A new era has begun in the history of Russia. Yes, yes, it started just then, on that day. And that's why.

    Among anti-Putinists, a fairly stable discourse of accusations against the current president has developed, based on the fact that he was chosen as the most harmless, safe and docile successor. That it is already sweat-oh-oh-oh-oh, Vladimir Vladimirovich changed the Yeltsin course and led Russia in the other direction. And then, de, nothing foreshadowed ...

    So - like everything emanating from the liberal opposition, this is not just a blatant lie, but also a stupid one. Because even then, on May 7, 2000, at his inauguration, Vladimir Putin honestly, clearly and unequivocally made it clear what he wants to do and what his priorities are. And this left wonderful, without exaggeration, documentary evidence - the speeches of Yeltsin and Putin that day.

    Boris Nikolaevich spoke in the spirit that the Kasparovs and Khodorkovskys would like very much today. His speech was not particularly long, the key meaning fits into this quote: “We must build a new Russia , for this there is a new generation of statesmen, politicians who are firmly committed to the values ​​of democracy . It will be easier for them: they are much less shackled by the habits of the past than we are, they are more courageous in working with outdated dogmas and coping with it. For me, this day is also very solemn and exciting, although, frankly, I did not expect this. Yes, we wrote the history of new Russia from scratch, as they say, by trial and error, there were many difficult trials, many difficulties, but now we all have something to be proud of - Russia has changed. "

    “Russia has changed for the sake of the new values ​​of democracy,” in short. And a direct message to Putin: you are from the new generation of politicians, it will be easier for you to pull the country in this direction, in the direction of a blank slate.

    Boris Nikolayevich agreed, and Vladimir Vladimirovich began to speak. We draw attention, now it will be.

    “The first President of Russia Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, leaving the Kremlin, remembered this today - he uttered words that many remember. Today he repeated in this hall: "Take care of Russia . " This is what I see as the main presidential duty. "

    Stop stop! Yeltsin just said: democracy, democracy must be protected! And what ... now it turns out that there are things more important than democracy - Russia, for example? !

    As you can see, right there, right off the bat, from the first phrases, Putin changed accents and priorities! Bach - and boldly, honestly and directly said that he would do it his own way.

    Go ahead.

    "Peaceful continuity of power is the most important element of political stability, which you and I dreamed of, which we were striving for, which we were striving for."

    A few more phrases - and Putin denotes the main principle of the country's sustainable development: stability, confident, without jerks and shocks, forward progress. In the first hour of his presidency, Putin lucidly and distinctly outlined his ideals. In the first HOUR! Much faster ?!

    “We are obliged to preserve what has been achieved, to preserve and develop democracy, to make sure that the government elected by the people works in their interests, protects the Russian citizen everywhere - both in our country and abroad, - serves society . This is a principled, tough position, I defended it and intend to defend it in the future. "

    Putin is very clear about democracy too - he simply fills the meaning of the term with a more concrete meaning: democracy is not an eternal electoral carnival, but the responsibility of the authorities to their people . And this is a “tough position”. And this turn tells us about the future incarceration of those representatives of the authorities who want to serve not society, but themselves (hello, the trucks and whites), and about adherence to principles in foreign policy issues.

    And finally, we come to the "blank slate":

    “We must not forget anything, we must know our history, know it as it is, learn from it, always remember those who created the Russian state, defended its dignity, made it a great, powerful, mighty state. We will preserve this memory, and we will preserve this connection of times, and we will pass on all the best from our history to our descendants ”.

    So much for your "blank slate"! Vladimir Vladimirovich politely and gracefully denied his predecessor: there is no "country with a clean slate" - there is a mighty power with great traditions of statehood, just on a new round of its continuous history. We will inherit them, we will take care of them, we will preserve and increase them in every possible way. And, as we know, he did not deceive - neither in practical actions on the geopolitical field, nor in the matter of preserving and restoring the historical memory of national shrines.

    And the final: "We want our Russia to be a free, prosperous, rich, strong, civilized country, a country that its citizens are proud of and respected in the world." There is nothing to comment on: the geopolitical influence has been restored, the country has become many times richer, citizens have seriously understood what real national pride for their country is - at least for the most beautiful Olympics and the World Championship.

    Here, in fact, so: there was no transformation of "Yeltsin's Putin" into "Putin's Putin". From the very first minutes of his rule, the President was an independent state thinker and strategist, with his own vision of the country's development. The country that has now embodied all his goals and aspirations.



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