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    Yemeni Conflict: News #3

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    Post  Isos Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:41 am

    Thermals are very good at spotting drones. That's why Sosn-r missile system is a must have in great numbers in your AD forces.

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    Post  calripson Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:05 pm

    https://www.wardiary.net/post/18-houthi-forces-raid-on-saudi-military-positions-may-2021
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:50 am

    @Calripson

    Forum rules about just posting links and also about links showing objectionable material requiring warnings...
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:17 am

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    Muhammad Abdul Salam is the spox of Yemen's Ansarullah movement. Significant.

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    Muhammad Abdul Salam met with Iran President Seyyed Ibrahim Raisi. twitter.com/abdusalamsalah…
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    Post  nomadski Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:43 am

    Russia abstained from vote on Libya. The vote was supposedly to establish a no fly zone to protect civilians. But the Yanks soon started to destroy Libyan  forces on the ground. I think the resolution on Yemen tries to establish an arms embargo on Houthi. Again leaving one side weaker than the other. The side it ( mostly the Yanks) favours. I think the external powers can and should work together in all these areas, where there is civil war. Not take sides, but make sure that no side is left defenceless or too powerful. This can be done by allowing defensive arms in proportion to both sides, which is more difficult to manage . Or to put arms embargo on all sides. This is easier and more effective, since most combatants do have light arms for self defence. So why Russia not bring a new resolution at UN, to put arms embargo on all of Yemen. And if vetoed by Yanks, then why not Iran put a blockade against arms to the Hadi and Southern Separatists?  Everyone will be equally disarmed, instead  of equally armed? The same plan for Afghanistan border crossing with Pakistan....

    This could prove enough of impetus for ceasefire and flow of aid and political talks. External powers can compete for influence through trade and investment, instead of war and destruction....


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    Post  GarryB Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:34 am

    Sometimes supporting both sides like that just leads to endless war...
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    Post  George1 Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:14 am

    I dont think that Russia ever interested in this conflict
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    Post  nomadski Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:19 am

    @ GarryB

    ".... Sometimes supporting both sides like that just leads to endless war..."

    I think what leads to endless war , is this idea in human minds of a victory in modern conventional war. This may have been the case, when wars fought , were far more democratic. Fought with swords and spears, man to man. The more numerous  and determined side then mostly won.

    But with modern conventional war, it is not the numbers of men , or the cause they are fighting for that matters, but the number of Dollars that seems to matter more. The side with the bigger Bucks, makes the bigger Bang. Giving the illusion of victory. Since nothing is tested by these wars. Nothing settled. The Rich inevitably become poor and vice versa. Leaving conflicts unresolved.

    But if there is arms embargo, then men have to face each other and line up. Hand to hand combat. This way then the most numerous and determined ( usually the one facing existential threat, fighting for justified survival ) will win. The conflict is settled more quickly and for longer term. With fewer casualties as a result of reduced lethality of arms.

    So we take away the illusion of victory away from modern war makers. The other way to go ofcourse are Nukes. This also takes away the illusion of victory from the modern war maker.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:39 am

    nomadski wrote:
    But if there is arms embargo, then men have to face each other and line up. Hand to hand combat. This way then the most numerous and determined  ( usually the one facing existential threat, fighting for justified survival ) will win. The conflict is settled more quickly and for longer term. With fewer casualties as a result of reduced lethality of arms.
    You are joking aren't you?
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:29 am


    Interesting week...

    US pulls missile defenses in Saudi Arabia amid Yemen attacks

    https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article254162418.html?__twitter_impression=true

    The U.S. has removed its most advanced missile defense system and Patriot batteries from Saudi Arabia in recent weeks, even as the kingdom faced continued air attacks from Yemen's Houthi rebels, satellite photos analyzed by The Associated Press show....

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:04 am

    They did that months ago, so probably this is making a piece of news from an old story.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:41 pm

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    Since the start of the Yemeni war, a total of 69 aircraft of various types have been shot down in the country, of which 37 belong to #Saudi Arabia, 17 to the #UAE, 12 to the #US, one to #Morocco, one to #Bahrain and one to #Jordan.



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    Post  Isos Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:17 pm

    Those r-27T are a hell of missiles.

    They should create a real AD system with missiles using its seaker.

    Radars give away their position while those passive guided missiles are nasty for any new airplane.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:40 am

    AFAIK they have the same seeker as used in the R-73, but the larger diameter of the body of the missile gives them a better FOV.

    A serious improvement would be the autopilot and datalink used on the R-27ER so the missile could be flown closer to the target before needing to get a lock which would allow longer range engagements of targets with small IR signatures....
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    Post  Isos Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:53 am

    It doesn't seem to have issues with low IR signature targets. You can't make it lower than such small drones.
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    Post  franco Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:22 pm

    Battle of Marib: Houthis control most of the region

    Forces of the Yemeni Houthis from the Ansar Allah movement continue their offensive in the province of Marib, the last strategically important region of the country, where the presence of government forces still remains. Both sides of the conflict do not demonstrate their intention to seek a compromise, because of which the civilian population suffers.

    Earlier this week, the administration of President Mansour Hadi , who is backed by an Arab coalition led by Saudi Arabia, declared the southern part of Marib a military zone. This decision was due to the advance of the Houthi troops, who also took control of part of the Shabwa region in southern Yemen.

    Yemenis trapped, displaced by fierce fighting in Marib region https://t.co/xxNuOSg5Z3
    - Devdiscourse (@dev_discourse) October 14, 2021

    This zone is of strategic interest for both sides of the conflict: there are oil fields and the country's only terminal for liquefied natural gas. Nevertheless, the ambitions of the opposing forces lead to the fact that the conditions in which ordinary Yemenis live are increasingly deteriorating.

    The United Nations (UN) presented a report on the situation in the Middle East country on October 13, which provided unconfirmed reports that at least six civilians were killed there last month.

    The document notes that in September alone, almost 10 thousand residents of the Marib region were forced to leave their homes due to the ongoing hostilities.

    The latest escalation in fighting has displaced at least 2,670 Yemenis in Marib last week alone. #Marib has been a safe haven for over 1 million IDPs like Ali who sought refuge here fleeing fighting in Ibb with his family. He now worries for their future as fighting intensifies. pic.twitter.com/HsfEYb68SY
    - UNHCR Yemen (@UNHCRYemen) October 6, 2021

    Earlier, the Yemeni authorities said that about 35 thousand more people were trapped in the Al-Abdiyah area due to the blockade continuing since September 23. Restrictions prevent not only the movement of civilians, but also the delivery of medical supplies and humanitarian aid there.

    The day before, Saudi sources reported that in just 24 hours, as a result of 19 operations of the Arab coalition air force , more than 100 Houthis and 12 military vehicles were eliminated . These actions were taken in order to stop the advance of the rebels and prevent them from entering the besieged area.

    Hundreds of Yemenis are trapped by fierce fighting between government and Houthi forces in the northern Marib governorate. https://t.co/BK3KeDDafW
    - The Star (@staronline) October 14, 2021

    Riyadh representatives reported similar results today . Over the past day, in the same part of the country, coalition forces have destroyed about 180 insurgents and 10 vehicles during 40 military operations.

    Ten military vehicles were destroyed and over 180 #Houthis killed in operations carried out by the Arab coalition in Abdiyah, #Yemen https://t.co/8sM3X4XRJe
    - Arab News (@arabnews) October 15, 2021

    UN sees the problem

    UN Assistant Secretary General for Humanitarian Affairs Ramesh Rajasingham, as part of his speech to the Security Council members, said that the situation in Yemen is getting worse every day. At a meeting on October 14, he said that about 20 million citizens of the country are in need of urgent assistance. At the same time, he noted that all the efforts undertaken by the United Nations aimed at de-escalating the conflict and ending the war had come to a standstill.

    Rajasingham stressed that the tensions in Marib are heating up not only because of the Houthi offensive and attacks by the Arab coalition, affecting at least 50 different regions. According to him, since the beginning of October, the number of internal conflicts between the armed groups operating in the country, competing with each other, has increased in the region.

    The confrontation does not end

    Now the Houthi forces hold positions 18 kilometers west of the administrative center of the Marib region. Currently, hundreds of thousands of internally displaced persons are already taking refuge in the city, and due to the introduction of martial law in the region, their living conditions are becoming more unfavorable.

    Yemenis trapped, displaced by fierce fighting in Marib region https://t.co/B1c39YjXWN
    - Daily Round Up (@ DailyRoundUp1) October 14, 2021

    In the meantime, Ansar Allah is not yielding its positions, despite the constant air attacks of the Arab coalition. On Thursday, they were able to recapture several pieces of military equipment from rivals in Sirva district.

    Meanwhile, the United States continues to gradually curtail its presence, withdrawing part of the THAAD anti-aircraft systems from Saudi Arabia, which makes the kingdom more vulnerable to attacks by Houthi drones, often directed towards important infrastructure facilities of the Gulf State . Just last week, several people at Abha airport were injured after Saudi air defenses shot down an aircraft belonging to the rebels. The UAV was able to get too close, which caused the injuries of the air harbor staff.

    Houthi missiles and drones hit radius

    It is possible that the increasing activity of Riyadh in Yemen is a compensation for the weakening of the kingdom's defense - the Saudis are trying to reduce the number of the enemy so that he does not pose such a significant threat to them. In addition, in Marib, in addition to oil fields, there are important facilities of the Arab coalition, without which its activities in the region will be even less successful.

    But so far the Saudis have not succeeded in their operation, despite the damage inflicted on the rebels. As early as Thursday, the Houthis announced their advance in the Al-Juba area, where the Hadis now control only small tracts of land. There is evidence that the leaders of local tribes entered into a non-aggression pact with the rebels, which avoided unnecessary bloodshed and destruction.

    Yemen: Houthis advance on Marib amid accusations of besieging civilians https://t.co/qQtYeDzFVn pic.twitter.com/sdb5rywczH
    - Middle East Eye (@MiddleEastEye) October 14, 2021

    Most of the Marib region is now under the control of the Ansar Allah movement.

    https://riafan-ru.translate.goog/1537535-srazhenie-za-marib-khusity-kontroliruyut-bolshuyu-chast-regiona

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    Post  starman Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:32 pm

    franco wrote:Battle of Marib: Houthis control most of the region

    Thank you for this interesting and informative post. Did you hear btw the report that Saudis are pulling heavy equipment out of Marib and redeploying it closer to KSA?


    The day before, Saudi sources reported that in just 24 hours, as a result of 19 operations of the Arab coalition air force , more than 100 Houthis and 12 military vehicles were eliminated . These actions were taken in order to stop the advance of the rebels and prevent them from entering the besieged area.

    And they're sure working great aren't they? Smile I don't doubt Saudi planes have inflicted losses. But they don't appear decisive.

    Meanwhile, the United States continues to gradually curtail its presence, withdrawing part of the THAAD anti-aircraft systems from Saudi Arabia, which makes the kingdom more vulnerable to attacks by Houthi drones, often directed towards important infrastructure facilities of the Gulf State . Just last week, several people at Abha airport were injured after Saudi air defenses shot down an aircraft belonging to the rebels. The UAV was able to get too close, which caused the injuries of the air harbor staff.

    I wonder if ultimate failure in Yemen or even over the skies of KSA itself, will undermine MBS. Smile
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    Post  nomadski Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:33 am

    If the Ansar Allah can bring about a political agreement with other forces in Yemen , regarding a new national constitution , or Federated region or even two independent regions as before , with the previous North - South border division , then the reason for fighting will end . Any and all these solutions are better than what exists now . If all the groups declared peace in Yemen , then can Saudi coalition carry on with the war ?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Yemen


    Seems like the present force positions are more or less static , and similar to old borders . Attempts at unification seem to be a fail . Yemen should be divided along the old North - South border lines .

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:08 pm

    Them BM are lethal, 6 Saudi officers and 12 soldiers dead plus 20 wounded.

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    1- On Wednesday , the missile force carried out a special operation targeting the Duty Forces camp in Jizan , with five ballistic missiles targeting the command headquarters, weapons stores and the base of the Apache helicopters, and the hit was accurate .


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:19 am

    Updated

    This operation led to killing and wounding of more than 35 Saudis, including officers & pilots of Apache helicopters, according to intelligence information.
    This comes in the retaliation to crimes of the aggression, its continuous raids, and its unjust siege on our country.

    Yemen Army delivered a strong blow to the Saudi army eliminating 35 officers in a ballistic missiles strike on the ‘Al Wajib’ military base in Jizan yesterday, the spokesperson for the Yemen armed forces Brigadier Yahya Saree stated.

    The Yemen Army, the real one operating from the Yemen capital Sanaa, not the one that reports to the ousted Yemen President residing in a hotel in the Saudi capital, fired 5 ballistic missiles against the Saudi military base in response to the continuous war crimes committed by the Saudi-led coalition to destroy Yemen because it has oil of its own and it oversees strategic waterways and because destroying another Arab and Muslim country helps Israel.


    https://syrianews.cc/yemen-army-neutralizes-35-saudi-officers-in-a-ballistic-missile-strike/

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:10 am

    Almighty Patriot triumphed again.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:51 am

    JohninMK wrote:Updated

    This operation led to killing and wounding of more than 35 Saudis, including officers & pilots of Apache helicopters, according to intelligence information....

    Saudi Apache pilot costs more than Apache

    Very expensive habits and at least 30 slaves per pilot lol1

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:21 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Updated

    This operation led to killing and wounding of more than 35 Saudis, including officers & pilots of Apache helicopters, according to intelligence information....

    Saudi Apache pilot costs more than Apache

    Very expensive habits and at least 30 slaves per pilot lol1

    Also seen as a good status, skilled and low risk job by Saudi princelings, so an attack like this could have hit hard into the hierarchy.

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