TR1 wrote:"My point is that Russia didnt invade the Caucuses, or set out to exploit Muslims. Muslims set out to ethnically cleanse Christians and Russians."
That is a very funny revisionism of history. Spoken like a true apparatchik.
Believe it or not most victims of crime in the Kavkaz are Muslims/ Native inhabitants.
Stop trying to frame this as some great Muslim Christian struggle.
If you want to get down to it the biggest cleanser of innocents in the Kavkaz has always been the Russian military. And no, it was NOT ever justified by mythical "Muslim cleansing".
It is clear from all your posts you have not spent one day in the region.
Where did you learn that last one from? Kavkazcenter? No, Muslims have been terrorizing Russians for a very long time, prior to Russia going into north caucuses. And no, you dont have to spend a day there to know this fact.
Your views on this is pretty sick. So you support the acts of terrorism in Russia because of so called massacre of muslims by Russians? Pretty sick.
Great, the village idiot joins in.
Enjoy your circle jerk, ignorant foreigners. Stop attributing things I never said to me though.
I havn't seen such hilarious whitewashing of Russia (be it the Russian Empire, the USSR, or our modern day legal-mafioso government) in the Kavkaz since mp.net, lol.
Like I said, I could care less what you people think about it, since as non citizens of Russia, your opinions on the matter are utterly irrelevant.
In fact the only person (aside from Garry) who makes any sense in this thread is an actual Russian, Python, and surprise he doesn't sound like a Stalin-wannabe psycho.
You've defending Chechen fanatics against the truth they ethnically cleansed. And you've defended them kidnapping only Russians. Then you said that the brave Russian troops were the problem.
And a mass of other garbage. What are you saying? The monsters who took over Chechnya should have just been allowed to get on with it and kidnap, torture, bomb, kill and rob all day long?
Dont blame everyone else for your comments. You made them, not us. If you've (cough) "changed your mind", I suggest you say so! But what I've read from you sounds pretty disturbing.
As for the "ignorant foreigner" comment... Well isnt an ignorant foreigner someone who defends fanatics in their terrorist campaign against Russians?
And as for who's Russian, I'm as eligible for citizenship as you are, legally. Morally infact, much more so, because I dont sympathise with or defend monsters against brave Russian soldiers. You've never come out with it btw. What are you? Half Wahabist? Full Muslim? Convert? Or "no comment"?
Fanatics wanted the Christians kidnapped/out/dead/robbed. Fanatics made this a Christian v Muslim matter. I see the Moscow Metro/Christian school/theatre bombed etc. I never saw the Chechens bomb a mosque. I wonder why?!!
On the basis of what I've seen, you remind me of one of the Irish/Pakistanis connected to organised crime. Quick to say they are "not terrorists". But then they have all manner of propagandist "defences" for atrocities. And very quick to point the figure at civilised people who just want to defend themselves from terror/ethnic cleansing.
Re Stalin, some of my family left Russia because of him, so I dont have a poster of him. But when Russia was attacked by Chechen fanatics in the Great Patriotic War, it was understandable that Russia had to defend itself. So thats a pretty idiotic claim from you. Stalin infact promoted minority groups in the USSR, as he was one himself. But no he didnt welcome terrorists - boo hoo hoo...
As I've said before, fanatics aimed for ethnic cleansing, the evidence is overwhelming. As a result, Russia must adopt a policy of segregation to protect decent innocent people from animal scum.
And Russia must get tough on the backers of the terrorists - financiers, commercial and internet propaganda cheerleaders. The whole lot.