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    Post  GarryB Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:42 am

    It is Iskander, and they are not the normal Iskander missiles, they are clearly cruise missiles, but I suspect they are still the 500km range models with the greatly enlarged warheads as per INF treaty requirements.

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    Post  franco Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:55 am

    Missiles have been fired: the Eastern Military District will receive an Iskander brigade

    The move is in response to US plans to deploy its own long-range weapons in the region.

    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation plans to create a new brigade of Iskander-M operational-tactical systems in the Eastern Military District. It will be equipped with aeroballistic and cruise munitions with a range of up to 500 km. This move will be in response to the strengthening of the United States and Japan in the area, experts explain. Since 2019, the United States has been negotiating plans to deploy its own long-range missiles in the Asia-Pacific region on the territory of allied countries.

    Rocket East

    Sources in the Russian Ministry of Defense told Izvestia about plans to form a new brigade in the Eastern Military District equipped with the Iskander-M tactical complexes. If a fundamental decision is made, the new military unit will appear before the end of this year.

    FULL ARTICLE: https://iz-ru.translate.goog/1284766/anton-lavrov-andrei-fedorov/rakety-podany-vostochnyi-voennyi-okrug-poluchit-brigadu-iskanderov?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

    NOTE: The Eastern Military District already has 4 Iskander brigades, to impact Japan and the US it would need to be based on the Sakhalinsk or Kurils islands from which it could cover the Northern Japanese island of Hokkaido.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:40 pm

    Iskander-K in rare winter camo:


    The camo almost looks like frost, and seems temporary. The traditional camo is the dark olive green color underneath.

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:41 pm

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:24 am

    The one word that you definitely don't want to hear from Russian radio chatter if you are facing them.

    пуск

    Shit will start getting real, very quickly Twisted Evil

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:42 pm

    That or someone announcing their favorite number: 333.
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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:25 am

    Would anyone know what is the price of Islander-M missile?
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:51 am

    caveat emptor wrote:Would anyone know what is the price of Islander-M missile?

    Not sure, but Russians have been recently shipping plenty to Banderastan by express post, no deposit required, no shipping charges. Razz

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:17 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:Would anyone know what is the price of Islander-M missile?
    Unfriendly nations are picking up the tab. Who cares?

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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:53 pm

    I suspect they had them in serious mass production for quite some time and would also expect that a lot of expiry dates were rapidly approaching, so I think a lot of the missiles used recently would have needed to be refurbished and overhauled if they would continue to keep them in operational service.

    The excellent results seem to suggest very good value for money because the alternative would be to risk aircraft to deliver a 500-600kg payload, which would not be cheaper I suspect.

    Day night and all weather capable.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Apr 03, 2022 5:14 pm

    GarryB wrote:I suspect they had them in serious mass production for quite some time and would also expect that a lot of expiry dates were rapidly approaching, so I think a lot of the missiles used recently would have needed to be refurbished and overhauled if they would continue to keep them in operational service.

    The excellent results seem to suggest very good value for money because the alternative would be to risk aircraft to deliver a 500-600kg payload, which would not be cheaper I suspect.

    Day night and all weather capable.
    I agree. They are excellent weapon and game changer in Ukraine. Was just wondering about the price
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    Post  Hole Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:26 pm

    Compared to its effectiveness it´s priceless. Very Happy

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:26 pm

    I agree. They are excellent weapon and game changer in Ukraine. Was just wondering about the price

    Couldn't tell you the price.

    The cost to the west will be enormous because Patriot wont be enough to stop these... they are going to have to invest in an IADS for their land forces, or just bury their heads in the sand in denial and except they would lose any future war with a Ukraine level opponent.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:10 pm

    Nice cammo but the brown should have been a couple of shades darker Laughing Laughing .

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    Post  AlfaT8 Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:54 pm

    Gentelman, has there been any proggres in the ground luanched kinzal for iskander?
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:56 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:Gentelman, has there been any proggres in the ground luanched kinzal for iskander?

    Huh?

    Why would you create a ground-launched version of an air-launched modification of a ground-launched missile?

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    Post  AlfaT8 Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:12 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:Gentelman, has there been any proggres in the ground luanched kinzal for iskander?

    Huh?

    Why would you create a ground-launched version of an air-launched modification of a ground-launched missile?

    So the current iskandwr missiles arr already hypersonic?
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:38 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:Gentelman, has there been any proggres in the ground luanched kinzal for iskander?

    Huh?

    Why would you create a ground-launched version of an air-launched modification of a ground-launched missile?

    So the current iskandwr missiles arr already hypersonic?

    No, they're launched from the ground not at high-speed and high-altitude


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    Post  ALAMO Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:38 pm

    flamming_python wrote:

    Huh?

    Why would you create a ground-launched version of an air-launched modification of a ground-launched missile?

    Someone liked Inception movie too much Twisted Evil Laughing

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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:39 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:

    So the current iskandwr missiles arr already hypersonic?
    There was a talk about an upgraded Iskander which will have longer range and better precision. I don't remember if the speed was mentioned.
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:47 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:
    There was a talk about an upgraded Iskander which will have longer range and better precision. I don't remember if the speed was mentioned.

    A "better precision" for something that hits targets on the move is some kind of joke, right?
    At 8Ma terminal speed, how much faster does it need to be to make you give a break?

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    Post  TMA1 Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:40 am

    If I remember they mentioned increased speed and range and stealth characteristics.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:11 am

    My understanding was that they were going to hold back on increased range till the US based ground based long range weapons in Europe, but 16 days after the end of the INF treaty they tested Tomahawks in the AEGIS Ashore system, so that becomes irrelevant doesn't it.

    They already have Iskander and air launched Kinzhal... Kinzhal is a longer ranged Iskander because of its high speed high altitude launch, so longer ranged Iskander is not so urgent.

    I would think a scramjet powered replacement for both solid rocket weapons would be the priority which means ground launched Zircon...

    Stealth is not so important when it actively manouvers to evade incoming missiles... it doesn't matter if they can track it from launch all the way to impact if they can't hit it before it hits the target.

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