par far wrote:How does the Borei class stack up against the American Virginia class and Ohio class submarines?
Are Russian Submarines better than the American ones or is it the other way around?
Also where does the Yasen class submarine rank?
Can some please tell me all the submarines that Russia operates right and what submarines will Russia operate in the future?
Will Russia export any submarines soon?
The Virginia is a completely different kind of submarine, it should be excluded... As should the Yasen, this thread will get too cluttered with two different kinds of submarines.
No one can really say, though the Borei is a much newer and (currently) more advanced than the Ohio. There is a reason that the US is trying to replace the Ohio-class with a stop-gap ASAP. Borei should be much quieter, but at the same time is holds a smaller number of missiles (albeit more advanced missiles).
Virginia's are a much more recent development than the Ohio, so the age-gap between that and the Yasen is lesser than the one between the Ohio and Borei. The Virginia is a nice design, and a very potent one, but the Yasen should still be quieter (which is one of the most important aspects of a sub). Another thing to keep in mind is their armaments... Both countries use rather old and dated torpedoes, but Russia's heavy torp has a longer range than its uS counterpart. That being said, both subs' torp armament isn't very great and is pretty similar in general. The one advantage of the Yasen and Russian subs in general, is that they can fire the ridiculously fast Shkval super-captivating torpedo, which doesn't have a US counterpart. As for missiles, I believe that the Virginia is stuck to land-attack Tomahawks while the Yasen can carry multiple Kalibr's (land attack, anti-ship, ASW etc) including the ASW models (which out-range all US and Russian torpedoes).
As of right now, they are using the...
SSBN's; Borei (2 active though one more is ready), Delta IV (six active), Delta III (3 active, will be outed soon) and one p.941 Typhoon.
SSN's; Akula (9 in service, though this needs to be checked), Oscar (5 active AFAIK), Sierra (3 active, once again, this needs checking), and the Victor (4 active).
SSK's; Kilo (16?), Kilo 636 (1, but second model is almost ready), and the one Lada (more on the way).
I'm sorry if some of these figures are wrong, it is a royal-pain-in-the-%$@ to find these numbers, at least it is for myself...
Anyway, in the near-future (decade from now)...
You can expect the left-over Delta III and p.941 Typhoon model(s) to be decommissioned and scrapped at a later date. In their place, their will be the coming Borei's (eight ordered so far).
The Victors will probably be thrown-out (so to speak), with the Sierra's still in service along with most of the Akula's, the phased-out subs will be replaced by the Yasen's (seven ordered, though hopefully some more can be added).
The older Kilo's will be getting the boot, with the 636's and Lada's replacing them (Lada orders are not significant as of right now, though they will grow). - Maybe some 636's (I hope)...
Amur will be exported.
They are exporting the Kilo and 636 Kilo right now, and the Amur orders should be coming in soon, there is also the one Akula SSN under rent (something like that) in India right now.
Russia is already beginning work on the Borei-replacement (long ways away), the Yasen-replacement is unknown... Finally, the Lada and maybe an upgrade of it will occur in large numbers. The US is only working on a cheaper (and much less effective) Virginia-class variant (for land-attack, hence the downgrades) and the stop-gap Ohio replacement (which should be fine).