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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:22 am

    Isos wrote:WTF ? Is it orthodoxe christmas this week or what ?

    ELINT News
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    #BREAKING: Sources now reporting that in addition to the 6 S-300 battalions, the Syrian Air Defence Forces will receive: 20 Buk M2 systems, 36 Pantsir S1/S2’s, 25 Tor M2-U’s & 15 S-125 2M’s from the Russian military to heavily boost Syria’s air defence capabilities
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    Holy sh%t, Russia was holding a lot back, looks like Syria ordered a lot of stuff, they just weren't delivered.

    Even TORs are being sent.
    Is this for real??
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:36 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Israel doesn't have SLBMs, but has SLCMs. Their SSKs r too small for SLBMs.
    They thought that if & when the Syrians screwed up, Israel won't be blamed.
    Also, it could be a trick to drive a wedge between them & Russia.
    Honest mistake on their part! They supported rebel groups & the Kurds only because those tried to remove Assad, an Iranian ally. The ISIS is not monolithic: some rebels split & joined other groups over the years.
    Using proxies isn't suicidal, by any stretch!
    Netanyahu gave a new characterization of the Il-20 crash
    The expert explained why the US withdraws its SAMs from the Middle East
    "They cost billions, but do not have practical application."

    Don't believe a single world of the israelis pathological liars.. They know very well ,what they were doing against Russia and Syria.. They pretend to be friends with Russia... but goes and bomb Russian allies ,and bomb in Syria ,military bases.. not caring for the life of Russian servicemen that could be with them.. And now had the arrogance to bomb right there next to Russian bases.. how arrogant they can be? Iran had no bases in latakkia , what they really want is to weaken Syria capability to defend itself from NATO criminal cruise missiles attacks. and to scare Russia in ending the support of Assad.. Israel bombed 200 times Syria.. not caring whether their attacks could hit Russian soldiers.. so Israel is not a friend of Russia.. and now Russian radars.. were able to see ,how one of Israeli planes .ambushed a Russian military plane to get it shot down.. So arrogant is Israel and hostile to Russia.. that whenever netanyahu visit Russia.. that same day ,they attack Syrian army.. So if someone try to kill your friends..
    and later come smiling to your side.. as if nothing happened... had to be people crazy and mentally sick ..

    So nutanyahu can say whatever he wants,. but radars images of S-400s don't lie.. Israel have been abusing of
    Russia friendship ,attacking Russia allies.. and now they took things to anew level..by targeting Russian military intelligence planes.. flying over Syria.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:37 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Isos wrote:WTF ? Is it orthodoxe christmas this week or what ?

    ELINT News
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    #BREAKING: Sources now reporting that in addition to the 6 S-300 battalions, the Syrian Air Defence Forces will receive: 20 Buk M2 systems, 36 Pantsir S1/S2’s, 25 Tor M2-U’s & 15 S-125 2M’s from the Russian military to heavily boost Syria’s air defence capabilities
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    Holy sh%t, Russia was holding a lot back, looks like Syria ordered a lot of stuff, they just weren't delivered.

    Even TORs are being sent.
    Is this for real??

    it can be..
    a Russia senator told recently that Syria will receive more than S-300s..

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:23 pm

    Sat photo from today. Apart from attention the Il-76 are getting there seems to be a lot of aircraft there. Pity its 'upside down' to normal with north at the bottom.

    Also there are radar tracks of an An-124 coming down from northwest Russia via Iranian airspace today.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:47 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Isos wrote:WTF ? Is it orthodoxe christmas this week or what ?

    ELINT News
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    #BREAKING: Sources now reporting that in addition to the 6 S-300 battalions, the Syrian Air Defence Forces will receive: 20 Buk M2 systems, 36 Pantsir S1/S2’s, 25 Tor M2-U’s & 15 S-125 2M’s from the Russian military to heavily boost Syria’s air defence capabilities
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    @Syrian_SR

    Holy sh%t, Russia was holding a lot back, looks like Syria ordered a lot of stuff, they just weren't delivered.

    Even TORs are being sent.
    Is this for real??

    it can be..
    a Russia senator told recently that Syria will receive more than S-300s..


    If they are really sending Syria two regiments worth by Syrian regiment standards then those other systems would be the mid and short-range systems that accompany it like I stated, inside knowledge is nice.
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    Post  Isos Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:37 pm

    Somehow this s-300 help will also help for idlib. Russia gave 1 months to remove the terrorists so they have only 15 days left. After that they will start the operation and the s-300 will be used against Turkey if they want to use their f-16...

    If it appears to be what I say, I would have bring some tactical nuks to calm down US too because they could support turkey.
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    Post  BKP Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:43 pm

    ^^ The video in the middle could be subtitled "Sleboda Despairs," and the one at the top "Mercouris Doesn't."

    Note the nice retort from Mercouris to all the recent anti-Putin hysterics starting @14:36.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:11 am

    Isos wrote:WTF ? Is it orthodoxe christmas this week or what ?

    ELINT News
    ELINT News
    @ELINTNews
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    4h
    #BREAKING: Sources now reporting that in addition to the 6 S-300 battalions, the Syrian Air Defence Forces will receive: 20 Buk M2 systems, 36 Pantsir S1/S2’s, 25 Tor M2-U’s & 15 S-125 2M’s from the Russian military to heavily boost Syria’s air defence capabilities
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    It's not Orthodox Christmas which is funny since this here is pretty much entire Serbian Military wishlist.

    It could be Islamic Christmas?
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:19 am

    Isos wrote:Somehow this s-300 help will also help for idlib. Russia gave 1 months to remove the terrorists so they have only 15 days left. After that they will start the operation and the s-300 will be used against Turkey if they want to use their f-16...

    If it appears to be what I say, I would have bring some tactical nuks to calm down US too because they could support turkey.
    I believe that Israel is just a sideshow, a very unfortunate one for some at that. Probably the more serious threat was that made by FUKUS saying almost any attack on Idlib would result in military action from them. This could be a reason for the apparent rapid movement of defensive systems of all kinds into Syria by the Russians. By the look of what we can see of its components and Russia's public statements it could be tailor made to knock cruise missiles down. FUKUS must be a wee bit pissed off with the stupid IAF actions.

    In many ways Syria is in the process of being upgraded from hedgehog to porcupine.

    Back a month ago when they did the Idlib deal with Turkey, Russia had no idea that Israel would present on a plate to them the opportunity to do what they are now doing which would otherwise have been impossible. They knew they were very vulnerable and had to get to the point where they wouldn't provoke an onslaught as Syria was defenceless. It isn't now so Syria will be much more confident.
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    Post  BKP Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:43 am

    Has there been definite proof yet that Tor is part of the package?
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    Post  eehnie Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:49 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Isos wrote:Somehow this s-300 help will also help for idlib. Russia gave 1 months to remove the terrorists so they have only 15 days left. After that they will start the operation and the s-300 will be used against Turkey if they want to use their f-16...

    If it appears to be what I say, I would have bring some tactical nuks to calm down US too because they could support turkey.
    I believe that Israel is just a sideshow, a very unfortunate one for some at that. Probably the more serious threat was that made by FUKUS saying almost any attack on Idlib would result in military action from them. This could be a reason for the apparent rapid movement of defensive systems of all kinds into Syria by the Russians. By the look of what we can see of its components and Russia's public statements it could be tailor made to knock cruise missiles down. FUKUS must be a wee bit pissed off with the stupid IAF actions.

    In many ways Syria is in the process of being upgraded from hedgehog to porcupine.

    Back a month ago when they did the Idlib deal with Turkey, Russia had no idea that Israel would present on a plate to them the opportunity to do what they are now doing which would otherwise have been impossible. They knew they were very vulnerable and had to get to the point where they wouldn't provoke an onslaught as Syria was defenceless. It isn't now so Syria will be much more confident.

    Russia was well prepared, and now will be better prepared.

    Welcome to the new stage of the war. russia

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    Post  Vann7 Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:48 am

    Russian/Syrian airforce and air defenses will need to shot down Israeli planes on Sight.. whenever they show on the horizon 50km away from Lebanon coast.or even 100km away.., in formation , Hit at their planes.. S-200s could be used to harrass them.. first.. and if they continue advancing ,Shoot them down.. Is the time for Russia military to take gloves off.. and punish Israel very hard. but also NATO if attack Syria..

    Wild Animals could be irrational ,but there is something they all respect.. lethal Force. Only When Russia use lethal  force against Israel ,and dozen of their planes gets shot down , this is when they will back down and retreat.. because they will not want to lose all their planes..  and then will regroup and retry again... and then Russia/Syria  must shoot down another dozen of israel planes.. , Israel if notices their planes can't get close , will resort to long range cruise missiles..
    which is going to be very very expensive for them , and those are easy to take down.. also Ballistic missiles. Russia military for sure ,already have in papers.. the new Rules of Combat.. when to do this.. when to use that.. and when that.. someway ,when ISrael continue hostilities.. Russia should have scenarios already written in paper,of when a major red line will be crossed,, that they will be justified to attack Israel military airports.. this is when i really think.. The NAzijews will stop .

    I have a good feeling that Russia is going to do very well ,in a fight versus Israel.. once they deploy all their
    assetts in syria.. Israel submarines should be sinked.. all of them.. that also will send a strong Message to the nazi jews to respect Russia.. or will end completely destroyed.



    The must vulnerable zones for Russia will be Americans buffer zones in Kurds territories.. israel can use it to attack Syria.. and southern Syria will be close to Israel border ,could be hit by artillery. also Jordan zone ,could be used too.. and Isreal small drones could be a problem , for Russia don't completely seal Syria air space with electronic warfare.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:06 am

    I think that now Israel may decide to take a back seat & wait for the US & Saudi Arabia to deal with Iran not in Syria, but in & around Iran itself. Interesting times will live in indeed!
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    Post  Vann7 Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:38 am



    An interesting article... must see..

    Thank You Mother Russia, For Putting Israel In Its Place – Gideon Levy




    In recent years, Israel has become more “out of control” than usual, ‘patrolling’ Lebanese airspace and bombing the territory of Syria, writes the correspondent Gideon Levy of the country’s oldest daily, Haaretz.

    Russia, which after the incident with the IL-20 decided to send the S-300 complexes to Syria, managed to “curb” Israel, showing it the scope of what is allowed, the journalist believes.



    “A ray of hope breaks out from behind the clouds: someone sets the framework of what’s permissible for Israel. For the first time in many years, another state makes it clear to Israel that its influence has boundaries, that it is abnormal to do everything that it likes, that it is not alone involved in the game, that America can not always cover it and that it can not harm endlessly “, Writes Levy.

    While Hezbollah defeated Israel 12 years ago in a major conflict over Lebanon, and also showed it where its boundaries and limitations are, Russia is the first state actor to do so as a state in many decades.

    According to the journalist, Israel needs such restrictions as a no-fly zone. In recent years, “arrogance” and the general geopolitical situation have allowed the country “to get out of control.”

    Israeli aircraft could patrol Lebanese airspace as if it was its own, and bombed Syria numerous times, for no coherent reason permissible within international law. Its troops also periodically destroy Gaza, its abuses against Palestinians have only increased despite growing international pressure and general disgust at the crimes of the so-called ‘Jewish state’, and it keeps captive Palestine in an “endless siege” and continues to “occupy” the western bank of the Jordan River. Levy stressed;

    “Suddenly someone stood up and said:” Well, stop it. At least in Syria, everything is enough. ” Thank you, Mother Russia, for limiting the child, who has not been pacified for a long time,”

    According to him, the Russian response caused “stupor” from Israel, which only showed how much the country needs a “responsible adult who can curb it.” After all, for decades Israel has not come across such a “strange phenomenon”.

    In the spring, Bloomberg quoted former and current Israeli officials who threatened that the country’s air force would bomb the S-300 if Russia supplied Syria’s complexes. But now the voices of those who spoke with “empty bravado”, have calmed down, notes Levy.

    In the opinion of the journalist, any state has the right to possess air defense, including Syria, and no one should deprive him of such an opportunity by force. But this simple truth sounds to the Israeli authorities as something “unrealistic”.

    They “interfered with impunity” in the affairs of the region, hiding behind real or fictional fears about national security. But all this unexpectedly came across the Russian ‘NO’, which brought Israel back to reality.

    This happened very opportunely. When Israel “was in the seventh heaven with happiness” because the United States moved the embassy to Jerusalem and reduced the funding to UNRWA (United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East), Moscow issued a warning.

    Perhaps this will at least slightly balance the “intoxication with power” that has taken possession of the country in recent years, and it will begin to “grow smart and recover.”

    Moreover, Russia may inadvertently turn out to be “better for Israel because of all this insane corrupting support that it receives from the current US administration and its predecessors,” Levy argues. He goes on to say:


    “Russia has demonstrated to the world a way of dealing with Israel, using only the language that it understands. Let those who really care about the well-being of Israel and justice learn how it is done: only with the use of force,”

    According to the journalist, only when Israel is punished and forced to account for its actions, does it act correctly. Its Air Force will think hard before starting another bombing in Syria, “the importance of which, if it exists at all, is unclear.”

    Gideon Levy concludes;

    “If such a Russian ‘nyet’ also hung over the skies of Gaza, so many useless deaths and destruction would have been avoided. If the international forces rebuffed the Israeli occupation, it would end long ago.

    Instead, we have Donald Trump in Washington and pitiful condemnations from the EU because of the eviction of Khan al-Ahmar residents”





    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/09/thank-you-mother-russia-for-putting-israel-in-its-place-gideon-levy/


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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:08 am

    Russia deceived Israel by using the IL-76 to carry the S-300 to Syria?
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    Post  Isos Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:45 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Isos wrote:Somehow this s-300 help will also help for idlib. Russia gave 1 months to remove the terrorists so they have only 15 days left. After that they will start the operation and the s-300 will be used against Turkey if they want to use their f-16...

    If it appears to be what I say, I would have bring some tactical nuks to calm down US too because they could support turkey.
    I believe that Israel is just a sideshow, a very unfortunate one for some at that. Probably the more serious threat was that made by FUKUS saying almost any attack on Idlib would result in military action from them. This could be a reason for the apparent rapid movement of defensive systems of all kinds into Syria by the Russians. By the look of what we can see of its components and Russia's public statements it could be tailor made to knock cruise missiles down. FUKUS must be a wee bit pissed off with the stupid IAF actions.

    In many ways Syria is in the process of being upgraded from hedgehog to porcupine.

    Back a month ago when they did the Idlib deal with Turkey, Russia had no idea that Israel would present on a plate to them the opportunity to do what they are now doing which would otherwise have been impossible. They knew they were very vulnerable and had to get to the point where they wouldn't provoke an onslaught as Syria was defenceless. It isn't now so Syria will be much more confident.

    The deal was made to win some time. And they had the opportunity to bring more s-300.

    There wouldn't have been any attack if they started tge opperation. I think its a diplomatuc negociation because the area is full of foreign terrorists maybe even from russia, so no one wants them to move.
    I mean eveb the western don't call them moderate opposition but terrorist. They coukd attack to protect them ...
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    Post  dino00 Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:07 pm

    Baptism of Syria. What kind of Russian weapons did the whole world learn?

    September 30, 2015, the operation of the Russian Armed Forces began in Syria. TASS - about armament and military equipment, which were tested in the Arab Republic for three years

    More
    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5616784

    Good journalism.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:23 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Russia deceived Israel by using the IL-76 to carry the S-300 to Syria?

    What language is that?
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    Post  mnztr Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:36 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:Russia deceived Israel by using the IL-76 to carry the S-300 to Syria?

    What language is that?

    Looks like vietnmaese to me
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    Post  dino00 Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:36 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:Russia deceived Israel by using the IL-76 to carry the S-300 to Syria?

    What language is that?

    I think is vietnamite
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    Post  dino00 Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:39 pm

    DAMASCUS IS LOOKING TO ACQUIRE S-400 AIR DEFENSE SYSTEM: SYRIAN FOREIGN MINISTER

    https://southfront.org/damascus-is-looking-to-acquire-s-400-air-defense-system/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


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    Post  mnztr Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:46 pm



    A couple of things are being done to shield the coming Idlib offensive. Firstly the Russian Flotilla. These ships are being strategically placed. They are not there to shoot down cruise missiles but are there to create a pretext. If the Russian navy detects a mass launch of cruise missiles, it will assume it is under attack and will retaliate against ANY and ALL ships firing at it...unless it is warned WELL in advance. These attacks could also come  from the Russian airforce or from Russian submarines.  So now the US is facing not only S300, but getting its navy fucked up the *ss by KH-32 and submarine and ship launched supersonic ASMs. If Israel gets too snappy they will find their runways destroyed as well. Does Israel really want to be at war with Iran and Syria that are fully backed by Russia? Doubt it. So shaddap and go sit down. The Israelis remember how much mayhem Hezbollah caused them with just a few crates of advanced ATGMs in Lebanon.
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    Post  Isos Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:55 pm

    dino00 wrote:DAMASCUS IS LOOKING TO ACQUIRE S-400 AIR DEFENSE SYSTEM: SYRIAN FOREIGN MINISTER

    https://southfront.org/damascus-is-looking-to-acquire-s-400-air-defense-system/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


    clown What a Face attack

    They should stop dreaming. And rebuild their country.
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    Post  Vann7 Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:05 pm

    The environment is ideal for a major FALSE flag event...

    With Civilians Airliners planes , being shoot down.. by Israel or NATO.. and later Syria and Russia
    blamed for it.. similar to the malasyan plane incident that crashed in DOnetsk. Israel airforce could even use
    hot hide behind civilian airliners to attack syria..  or worse.. Israel and NATO could load a civilian plane
    with lots of ISIS and Alqaeda terrorist ,and the plane filled with 50 tons of TNT ..then fly the plane over Russia
    military base... So it will create a major issue for Russia .. of whether or not to shoot the plane..  They did this
    with the Korean airliners ,that soviets were forced to shoot down.. because after half an hour ,refused to obey orders
    to deviate from tis flight path... that was heading towards Russian military bases.. Is a dirty war ... and they can do
    any thing.. it could be an old warship.. During Bush JR reign of terror.. it was told his vice president was planning
    to sink an Old warship ,from any middle east country with their participation in the false flag. painted as an American warship ,and then blame it on IRAN.. and use the incident to do a nuclear attack on IRAN.. The same script could be now done ..but blame hezbolah or Syria for it.. So Russia will need to try to create a no Transit zone.. between Cyprus and Lebanon-Syria coast.. otherwise there will be Lots of False Flags.. with civilian airliners or Civilian ships , and then blame Syria or hezbolah for it.. allowing them to deploy their "rescue boats" and create a buffer zone ,near Russia base..for extracting anything..

    Is surprising they haven't done this already.. Malasyan or Titanic like accidents. but all staged ,inside jobs..
    to blame Syria ,Russia ,Hezbolah or IRAN.. and use it to justify bombing Syria..

     Russia needs to create security zone ..near their base and enforce it.. not allow NATO or Israel to get anywhere close to their base. Because the closer they are ,the less time for interception Russian air defenses will have. specially in a saturated attack..


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