Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

Kremlin spokesman Peskov has said President Putin is declining military request to carry out airstrikes in support of Syrian Army in Aleppo despite the rebel/jihadist offensive.

https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610281046851500-aleppo-putin-airstrikes/

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Putin rejects Russian military request to resume airstrikes in east Aleppo
https://www.rt.com/news/364565-russia-putin-resume-airstrikes/
President Vladimir Putin has denied the Russian military’s request to order a resumption of airstrikes in eastern Aleppo, his press secretary said. The military had asked permission to resume airstrikes due to the increased activity of militants.
“The Russian president considers it inappropriate at the present time to resume airstrikes in Aleppo," Dmitry Peskov told the press.

Why bother with East part when SAA are fucking up in the West ?

Let them start pulling their own weight before they get the airstrikes.

i find it strange that Russia isn't aiding the SAA with airstrikes in Aleppo.
When you hear this.
Kremlin: Russia may use all available means against terrorists in Aleppo

I wonder if they are trying to get the terrorists into a close concentrated area then drop a FOAB or two or many       that would surely reduce there number      

http://tass.com/politics/909503

Strategic decisions on operation in Syria will be made by Vladimir Putin, the General Staff will be in charge of operational supervision

Russia reserves the right in case of emergency to use all available means to counter terrorists’ provocations in Aleppo, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Friday.

the Russian president proceeds from the fact that in case of emergency the Russian side reserves the right to use all available forces and resources to counter the terrorist groupings’ provocative actions and provide due support to the armed forces of the Syrian Arab Republic," the Kremlin spokesman said.

Looks like somebody is saving someone's incompetent ass yet again:

many RUAF takeoff since Ten minutes ago ,May to Aleppo , Will report soon .

https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/792097249119592450

d_taddei2 wrote:i find it strange that Russia isn't aiding the SAA with airstrikes in Aleppo.  
When you hear this.
Kremlin: Russia may use all available means against terrorists in Aleppo

I wonder if they are trying to get the terrorists into a close concentrated area then drop a FOAB or two or many       that would surely reduce there number      

The smaller the area gets, the closer the terrorists are packed in with the civilians. One of the goals is not to kill the civilians if possible.

Erk wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:i find it strange that Russia isn't aiding the SAA with airstrikes in Aleppo.  
When you hear this.
Kremlin: Russia may use all available means against terrorists in Aleppo

I wonder if they are trying to get the terrorists into a close concentrated area then drop a FOAB or two or many       that would surely reduce there number      

The smaller the area gets, the closer the terrorists are packed in with the civilians. One of the goals is not to kill the civilians if possible.

Some people failed to realize that once these terrorists sneak in apartment blocks and narrow streets, they make very difficult targets. SAA gave them a great prize by giving up such areas and so fast. Right now there is great confusion on their locations, plans and capabilities in these areas. With such initiative the beardies are very dangerous in the next day or so. With such momentum, they might end up snatching more areas, much faster. Areas that will take months to regain (see Morek in Hama recently).

The quality of SAA contingencies will show in the next few hours. So far it seems they have none.

https://www.rt.com/news/364620-russia-idlib-school-lavrov/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

Western accusations against Russia concerning its reported involvement in attacking a school in the Syrian province of Idlib are fabricated and based on a hoax story, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said.

On Thursday, Russian Defense Ministry released photos made by an UAV dispatched to the area of the alleged airstrike that showed “no signs of damage to the roof of the school, or craters from airstrikes around it.”

The ministry also said that a video published by opposition groups on the ground and circulated by a range of Western media outlets “appears to consist of more than 10 different shots, filmed at different times of the day and in different resolutions, that were edited into a single clip.”

In light of recent disaster of a terrorist offensive is it possible that reason why Kuznetzov has been taking forever to get into position and appearing in every media known to exist is to lure jihadists into thinking that they are short on time and going headfirst into this fiasco?

Or am just reading coffee here?

PapaDragon wrote:
In light of recent disaster of a terrorist offensive is it possible that reason why Kuznetzov has been taking forever to get into position and appearing in every media known to exist is to lure jihadists into thinking that they are short on time and going headfirst into this fiasco?

Or am just reading coffee here?

There's that for sure.

And they kinda are short of time as there is also US election running as we speak. The US won't take much diplomatic or military initiative to save them for the next 3-6 months or so. I doubt any new US president will start his/her term with a war, straight away.

Two Akula class + 1 kilo from northern fleet are going to syria. They were spoted in Atlantic

Isos wrote:Two Akula class + 1 kilo from northern fleet are going to syria. They were spoted in Atlantic

On surface or tracked below?

PapaDragon wrote:

Isos wrote:Two Akula class + 1 kilo from northern fleet are going to syria. They were spoted in Atlantic

On surface or tracked below?

Surfaced. The kilo surfaced and was tracked by a P3. The akula were tracked by a English SSN. English officials said they wanted to be seen by NATO forces. It's a french source quoting The Daily Express.

http://www.opex360.com/2016/10/31/trois-marins-dattaque-russes-pistes-par-la-royal-navy-lotan/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/726600/Russian-Syria-Aleppo-submarines-Irish-Sea

PapaDragon wrote:

Isos wrote:Two Akula class + 1 kilo from northern fleet are going to syria. They were spoted in Atlantic

On surface or tracked below?

They wish they could track them underwater. Fun fact, 3 years ago a Kilo submarine went an entire month in the Gulf of Mexico undetected and their presence was only known when the Kilo sub's crew decided to surface. Neocon publications went ballistic when that incident happened.

1000th

Militarov wrote:

1000th

Destined for an RuAF museum one day!

Russian-crewed D-30 howitzers near Aleppo
Posted 3 days ago(but only because they came home then and hadi nternet), somewhere north of Aleppo
https://twitter.com/bm27_uragan/status/793909684050620416

Interesting to see the material over portable/man-portable size moved to Syria in the side of the lowest technical level. Likely BPM-97 and D-30s are for use of the Syrian forces.

This is what I would expect to see moved to Syria from the Russian Armed Forces:

023mm 1960 ZU-23-2 (Until to be totally exhausted in the Russian Armed Forces).
082mm 1970 Vasilek (Until to be totally exhausted in the Russian Armed Forces).
Iveco LMV (Until to be totally exhausted in the Russian Armed Forces. Surely continue present in other non-military Russian security forces).

152mm 1975 Giatsint-B
120mm 1986 Nona-K
122mm 1960 D-30
100mm 1961 (M)T-12
152mm 1987 Msta-B

Su-25
BM-21

And this is what I would expect to see moved to Syria from other Russian security forces:

BPM-97
Vodnik

122mm 1960 D-30 (Until to be totally exhausted in the Russian security forces).

MI-24/25/35 (Until to be totally exhausted in the Russian security forces).
Ka-27/28/29/31/32/35 (Until to be totally exhausted in the Russian security forces).

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-isis-shoots-russian-helicopter-near-palmyra/

...russian confirm hello demaged by shooting and performed emergency landing - after landing was helicopter heavily demaged by mortar shelling....crew rescued by SAR hello...hello was patroling over humanitarian coridor...

http://rusvesna.su/news/1478203173

Maybe some more work on their CSAR skills is needed. Both vehicles and Mi-8 were just too close for comfort.
They don't seem to be aware that the enemy can hit them, as they did.

Also IS managed to reach the wreckage and take some victory shots.



ouch

That is embarrassing as hell, imagine that happening in a NATO army.

VladimirSahin wrote:That is embarrassing as hell, imagine that happening in a NATO army.

It did