A little triggered are we?

PapaDragon wrote:JohninMK wrote:Good analysis of the Russian move in and out of Iran. Looks like pretty nimble footwork by Moscow again.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/08/deciphering-russian-withdrawal-from.html
Nimble footwork, need for which was cause entirely by Iranian stupidity.
I don't buy this article for a second. Iran wanted VKS to defy Darvinian laws and keep their morons on the ground alive but got cold feet and came up with some BS story about Russia disrespecting them and not keeping deployment of full sized strategic bombers a secret.
Or maybe they got butthurt because Turks got their heads out of their asses and started talking to Russia again. Legendary mid-east pettiness.
We still have morons here like Vann who keep ranting about how Russia should deploy ground troops in this swamp and ''solve this for good''. With morons like SAA and Iran on your side it would be ''perfect''.
I believe that Russia's decision to keep the military footprint here to bare minimum will go down in history as smartest and most intelligent decision ever made by any middle eastern player.
Russia alrady achieved 90% of it's objectives here so what needs to be done now is to detach Latakia and Damascus and create independent state of Do What You Are Fucking Told.
Assad should suffer skiing accident so someone not retarded could take over.
East Syria can burn for next several decades which should keep the local morons busy. VKS can use that region for target practice from time to time just to make sure no unauthorized pipelines get built.
Kurds should be served to Turks on the silver platter. After the bullshit Kurds pulled of recently there is no need whatsoever to keep them alive. I detest Turks but at least dealing with them has potential for monetary benefit if nothing else. And we all know Turks will not pass up opportunity to tweak those rats.
As for Iran I am sure their air force is ready to enter the fray with zeal and bring instant victory to their cause. They are probably on their way now as we speak.![]()
The biggest ones i was aware were the FAB-1500 with 1500 kg explosive warhead.
Resistance wrote:Russia is acting too weak too cowardly. Turkey just sent huge army into Syria. Where is Russia army in Syria? Russians are too cowardly and cannot stand a single casualty. This supposed to be the grandchildren of those who beat Nazis.
If Russia does not defend Syria's sovereignty, then don't expect anyone to defend Russia's sovereignty when NATO, Japan, Australia, New Zealand along with pro west Russian traitors invade Russia.
And don't expect Russia will be able to use nuclear weapons to defend itself.
Resistance wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Turkey and the US tricked Russia together. Turkey and the US make a fake coup, leak something for Russia to find in advance, Russia warn Erdogan thinking the coup is real, Erdogan easily survives coup, Russia thinks Erdogan is grateful to Russia for saving him, Erdogan makes a fake deal with Russia, bomb YPG and Turkey will stop backing jihadists, when in fact, if Russia bombs YPG, full war with Kurds, YPG will be destroyed, SAA will be destroyed, Turkey backed jihadists take over Syria. This isn't the first time Russia got tricked. Remember USSR. Remember Yugoslavia. Remember Ukraine. Remember Libya. Remember Iraq. Remember Syria. Russia must know the coup in Turkey is a ploy of the US and Turkey to trick Russia make Russia bomb YPG and end up losing Syria to Turkey and US backed jihadists.
Resistance wrote:Russia is acting too weak too cowardly. Turkey just sent huge army into Syria. Where is Russia army in Syria? Russians are too cowardly and cannot stand a single casualty. This supposed to be the grandchildren of those who beat Nazis.
If Russia does not defend Syria's sovereignty, then don't expect anyone to defend Russia's sovereignty when NATO, Japan, Australia, New Zealand along with pro west Russian traitors invade Russia.
And don't expect Russia will be able to use nuclear weapons to defend itself.
PapaDragon wrote:
Will you all stop replying to troll retard?
Russia's job is not to defend Syria. That is SAA's job.
SAA is too incompetent to do their job.
Iran does not have balls to protect it's interests and expects someone else (Russia in this case) to fight and die for them. They are no different than Saudi Arabia.
Kurds decided to go completely rogue and they jeopardise Russia's proxies on the ground. SAA is too incompetent to deal with Kurds.
That leaves Turkey to deal with Kurds. And they will deliver. They may claim to fight ISIL but we all know they are there to put Kurds into the ground. There is no Syrian presence in that region so Turks, FSA and Kurds are free to rack in the bodycount. Happy hunting to all of them.
Russia is there to protect interests of Russia. And they are getting the job done with little effort and at relatively low cost. Textbook efficiency.
Turkey made their move now for one reason and one reason only: because Russia allowed them to.
Russia needs someone to handle the US controlled Kurds but they do not want to hassle with bombing ungrateful POS' themselves. Kurds have very good public image. So they allowed Turks to do the dirty work.
PapaDragon wrote:
Will you all stop replying to troll retard?
Russia's job is not to defend Syria. That is SAA's job.
SAA is too incompetent to do their job.
Iran does not have balls to protect it's interests and expects someone else (Russia in this case) to fight and die for them. They are no different than Saudi Arabia.
Kurds decided to go completely rogue and they jeopardise Russia's proxies on the ground. SAA is too incompetent to deal with Kurds.
That leaves Turkey to deal with Kurds. And they will deliver. They may claim to fight ISIL but we all know they are there to put Kurds into the ground. There is no Syrian presence in that region so Turks, FSA and Kurds are free to rack in the bodycount. Happy hunting to all of them.
Russia is there to protect interests of Russia. And they are getting the job done with little effort and at relatively low cost. Textbook efficiency.
Turkey made their move now for one reason and one reason only: because Russia allowed them to.
Russia needs someone to handle the US controlled Kurds but they do not want to hassle with bombing ungrateful POS' themselves. Kurds have very good public image. So they allowed Turks to do the dirty work.
sepheronx wrote:Kurds are going to be fine. They are paid for by US and they agreed to move back due to US. The fight at Jarablus was a fake and no casualties or any fighting for that matter. It was an attempt to capture land and prevent Kurds from gaining. Now the question is, what will they do next? I suspect start ex0anding towards Russian and Syrian controlled areas.
PapaDragon wrote:
Will you all stop replying to troll retard?
Russia's job is not to defend Syria. That is SAA's job.
SAA is too incompetent to do their job.
Iran does not have balls to protect it's interests and expects someone else (Russia in this case) to fight and die for them. They are no different than Saudi Arabia.
Kurds decided to go completely rogue and they jeopardise Russia's proxies on the ground. SAA is too incompetent to deal with Kurds.
That leaves Turkey to deal with Kurds. And they will deliver. They may claim to fight ISIL but we all know they are there to put Kurds into the ground. There is no Syrian presence in that region so Turks, FSA and Kurds are free to rack in the bodycount. Happy hunting to all of them.
Russia is there to protect interests of Russia. And they are getting the job done with little effort and at relatively low cost. Textbook efficiency.
Turkey made their move now for one reason and one reason only: because Russia allowed them to.
Russia needs someone to handle the US controlled Kurds but they do not want to hassle with bombing ungrateful POS' themselves. Kurds have very good public image. So they allowed Turks to do the dirty work.
sepheronx wrote:Kurds are going to be fine. They are paid for by US and they agreed to move back due to US. The fight at Jarablus was a fake and no casualties or any fighting for that matter. It was an attempt to capture land and prevent Kurds from gaining. Now the question is, what will they do next? I suspect start ex0anding towards Russian and Syrian controlled areas.
KoTeMoRe wrote:sepheronx wrote:Kurds are going to be fine. They are paid for by US and they agreed to move back due to US. The fight at Jarablus was a fake and no casualties or any fighting for that matter. It was an attempt to capture land and prevent Kurds from gaining. Now the question is, what will they do next? I suspect start ex0anding towards Russian and Syrian controlled areas.
While the SDF went back as fast as it could vs Turkey, they lost real people vs ISIS. Having to pull back from territory you were counting on to form a kurdish unified area while your buddy Uncle Scam told you it would be fine, that's something Kurds aren't going to take well. Kurds have 0 legs to more towards "Russian" Areas. And Turkey by its lack of assets in the area isn't going to risk a shot down squadron because they had the wrong idea. It's a Mexican stand-off and the Turks are part of it. Kurds had a nice choice to make, they didn't. C'est la vie.
sepheronx wrote:Kurds are going to be fine. They are paid for by US and they agreed to move back due to US. The fight at Jarablus was a fake and no casualties or any fighting for that matter. It was an attempt to capture land and prevent Kurds from gaining. Now the question is, what will they do next? I suspect start ex0anding towards Russian and Syrian controlled areas.
sepheronx wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:sepheronx wrote:Kurds are going to be fine. They are paid for by US and they agreed to move back due to US. The fight at Jarablus was a fake and no casualties or any fighting for that matter. It was an attempt to capture land and prevent Kurds from gaining. Now the question is, what will they do next? I suspect start ex0anding towards Russian and Syrian controlled areas.
While the SDF went back as fast as it could vs Turkey, they lost real people vs ISIS. Having to pull back from territory you were counting on to form a kurdish unified area while your buddy Uncle Scam told you it would be fine, that's something Kurds aren't going to take well. Kurds have 0 legs to more towards "Russian" Areas. And Turkey by its lack of assets in the area isn't going to risk a shot down squadron because they had the wrong idea. It's a Mexican stand-off and the Turks are part of it. Kurds had a nice choice to make, they didn't. C'est la vie.
I am not saying Kurds, but Turks, US and their terrorist buddies Al-Sham and FSA will start moving west.
Maybe the troll is correct. I mean, lets be real here. Russia fucked up horribly and allowed Libya to be destroyed and lost 10'S of billions. It allowed Ukraine to be turned into what it is now, and allowing the Novorussia to be murdered. Something tells me that whatever Putin does, is a show. I am becoming quite disenchanted with the guy and his actions (or lack of) Crimea was brilliant but I think that was the just of it. Maybe I am wrong and that there are other motives, but I am not seeing it
sepheronx wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:sepheronx wrote:Kurds are going to be fine. They are paid for by US and they agreed to move back due to US. The fight at Jarablus was a fake and no casualties or any fighting for that matter. It was an attempt to capture land and prevent Kurds from gaining. Now the question is, what will they do next? I suspect start ex0anding towards Russian and Syrian controlled areas.
While the SDF went back as fast as it could vs Turkey, they lost real people vs ISIS. Having to pull back from territory you were counting on to form a kurdish unified area while your buddy Uncle Scam told you it would be fine, that's something Kurds aren't going to take well. Kurds have 0 legs to more towards "Russian" Areas. And Turkey by its lack of assets in the area isn't going to risk a shot down squadron because they had the wrong idea. It's a Mexican stand-off and the Turks are part of it. Kurds had a nice choice to make, they didn't. C'est la vie.
I am not saying Kurds, but Turks, US and their terrorist buddies Al-Sham and FSA will start moving west.
Maybe the troll is correct. I mean, lets be real here. Russia fucked up horribly and allowed Libya to be destroyed and lost 10'S of billions. It allowed Ukraine to be turned into what it is now, and allowing the Novorussia to be murdered. Something tells me that whatever Putin does, is a show. I am becoming quite disenchanted with the guy and his actions (or lack of) Crimea was brilliant but I think that was the just of it. Maybe I am wrong and that there are other motives, but I am not seeing it
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