Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

Aldin_Aba wrote:Just here to quickly reassure you guys that nothing will change.

So far these left airbase:
2 sq of Su-25SM - (44, 53, 27, 25, 22, 24, 21, 31)
1 sq of Su-24M2 -(81, 78, 79, 74)
1 sq of  Su-34 - (03, 25, 22, 28)
16 planes in total.

Still at the airbase.

plus Mi-28 and Ka-50

For latest developments follow my acc twitter.com/Ald_Aba

Most of the videos in flight have been provided by Su-30SMs and by how many videos there have been I am willing to bet that all the Su-30SMs are gone.

At least one Su-35S has been seen leaving the base too.

With aircraft still at the base, I would imagine that there will still be some fighter escort still stationed at the base.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

Aldin_Aba wrote:Just here to quickly reassure you guys that nothing will change.

So far these left airbase:
2 sq of Su-25SM - (44, 53, 27, 25, 22, 24, 21, 31)
1 sq of Su-24M2 -(81, 78, 79, 74)
1 sq of  Su-34 - (03, 25, 22, 28)
16 planes in total.

Still at the airbase.

plus Mi-28 and Ka-50

For latest developments follow my acc twitter.com/Ald_Aba

Most of the videos in flight have been provided by Su-30SMs and by how many videos there have been I am willing to bet that all the Su-30SMs are gone.

At least one Su-35S has been seen leaving the base too.

With aircraft still at the base, I would imagine that there will still be some fighter escort still stationed at the base.

Su-30SM and Su-35S are seen in videos, thats true. But they are providing escort from Syrian airspace, they are not gone, none of them.

Aldin_Aba wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

Aldin_Aba wrote:Just here to quickly reassure you guys that nothing will change.

So far these left airbase:
2 sq of Su-25SM - (44, 53, 27, 25, 22, 24, 21, 31)
1 sq of Su-24M2 -(81, 78, 79, 74)
1 sq of  Su-34 - (03, 25, 22, 28)
16 planes in total.

Still at the airbase.

plus Mi-28 and Ka-50

For latest developments follow my acc twitter.com/Ald_Aba

Most of the videos in flight have been provided by Su-30SMs and by how many videos there have been I am willing to bet that all the Su-30SMs are gone.

At least one Su-35S has been seen leaving the base too.

With aircraft still at the base, I would imagine that there will still be some fighter escort still stationed at the base.

Su-30SM and Su-35S are seen in videos, thats true. But they are providing escort from Syrian airspace, they are not gone, none of them.

So they are providing air cover for the main force in foreign airspace then flying back then?

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

Aldin_Aba wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

Aldin_Aba wrote:Just here to quickly reassure you guys that nothing will change.

So far these left airbase:
2 sq of Su-25SM - (44, 53, 27, 25, 22, 24, 21, 31)
1 sq of Su-24M2 -(81, 78, 79, 74)
1 sq of  Su-34 - (03, 25, 22, 28)
16 planes in total.

Still at the airbase.

plus Mi-28 and Ka-50

For latest developments follow my acc twitter.com/Ald_Aba

Most of the videos in flight have been provided by Su-30SMs and by how many videos there have been I am willing to bet that all the Su-30SMs are gone.

At least one Su-35S has been seen leaving the base too.

With aircraft still at the base, I would imagine that there will still be some fighter escort still stationed at the base.

Su-30SM and Su-35S are seen in videos, thats true. But they are providing escort from Syrian airspace, they are not gone, none of them.

So they are providing air cover for the main force in foreign airspace then flying back then?

Exactly, also one of the Su-24M2 returned to Hmeimim due to malfunction. So only 3 Su-24s arrived at Shagol today.

Emperor of Mankind bestows praise on his Space Marines        

President Putin Awards Russian Soldiers for Special Operations in Syria

Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded Russian military and defense personnel who had taken part in the Russian air campaign in Syria.

http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160317/1036448714/putin-awards-army-personnel.html

Russian President Putin praised the effectiveness of the work of the Russian air group in Syria, which has been partly pulled out from the country. He also said that the operation in Syria has shown the increased power of the Russian military.

The Russian president said that the Russian Defense Ministry had spent 33 billion rubles (more than $464 million) on the military campaign in the Syrian Arab Republic.

Putin said that expenses on Russia's anti-terror campaign "were fully justified and necessary."

The Russian operation in Syria was a more effective training for the country's military than drills, he added.

The commander-in-chief added that the funds have been redirected to supply the assets in Syria, asserting that "no one has yet invented a more effective way of training and honing skills than actual combat operations."

He noted that "only in the battlefield could many of what was used to genuinely test, identify existing problems and fix them."

Putin said that the Russian air campaign in Syria has created conditions for the peace process in the war-torn country.

"The most important thing is that we have created conditions for the peace talks, we have managed to establish positive cooperation with the United States, as well as a number of other countries, with those opposition forces in Syria which really want to stop the war and find an only possible political solution to the conflict."

Russia will continue to aid Syria, including military and intelligence support. The Russian leader reiterated Russia’s readiness to support Damascus in the fight against terrorist groups operating in Syria, which are outlawed by the UN Security Council.

"Of course, we will continue to support the Syrian legitimate government. It will be financial aid, arms supplies, military training… It will be intelligence support, aid in the planning of operations, as well as direct support — the use of the Russian Aerospace Forces."

Putin commented on the operation carried out by the Syrian army aimed at the liberation of Palmyra.

"I hope that this pearl of the civilization will be returned to the Syrian people."

The Russian Aerospace Forces have carried out over 9,000 sorties during the anti-terror operation in Syria. The number of sorties conducted by Russian warplanes has decreased three times after the ceasefire had been reached, he said.

According to Putin, Russia may boost the air group in Syria "in literally a few hours."

"If needed, Russia can boost its air group in the region in literally a few hours to a size corresponding with the situation and use the whole arsenal of our opportunities. We would not like to do that as military escalation is not our choice, that's why we  rely on the common sense of all parties, on the commitment of the [Damascus] authorities and the opposition to the peace process."

Russia will use its air defense systems in Syria to target anyone threatening its military personnel, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday.

"We are acting according to fundamental international norms, no one has the right to violate Syria's sovereign airspace. An effective mechanism for preventing air incidents has been established with the American side, but all partners have been notified and are aware that our air defense systems will be deployed against any targets that we will consider to be a threat for Russian service personnel. I stress that these will be any targets."

The balance of power in Syria would be maintained after the pullout of the Russian forces, Putin said. The Russian leader added that Damascus had gained the strategic initiative and continues to defend its land.

He added that Russia has strengthened Syrian government forces, which are now capable of successfully fighting against terrorism.

"We have strengthened its [Syria’s] Armed Forces. Today, they are able not only to deter terrorists, but to conduct a successful offensive against them," Putin said at a ceremony awarding the forces involved in Russia's counterterrorist campaign in Syria.

Commenting on the ceasefire regime in Syria, Putin said that those who violate it, would be "automatically" excluded from the truce deal. "If we record ceasefire violations from any group, it will be automatically excluded from the list given by the United States with all that it entails."

Putin also noted the stance of the Syrian President Bashar Assad, saying that "we see his restraint, sincere desire of peace and willingness to compromise." The Russian leader added that Damascus would not fight against armed Syrian opposition groups, as agreed under the US-Russia ceasefire plan, which came into effect on February 27.

Russia has shown leadership and responsibility in its counterterrorist mission in Syria, the Russian president noted.

He noted that the servicemen’s "hard work radically changed the situation, we did not allow the terrorist tumor to grow" and expressed gratitude to those involved in the campaign for their "devotion to their fatherland."

"Russia is proud of you. It is proud of its soldiers and officers who defend the interests of the country with high professionalism and courage," the commander-in-chief added.

The modern Russian weapons has passed the most severe combat tests in Syria, Putin said.

"Today, I would like to express gratitude to the representatives of Russia's defense industry — to workers, engineers, designers. The modern Russian weapons have passed the test, and not on the firing range, but in the real world, in the fight. This is the most severe test. This experience will allow us to make the necessary adjustments to improve the efficiency and reliability of the technology, to create a new generation of weapons, improve the armed forces to increase their combat capabilities," Putin said during the award ceremony in Moscow.

Could somebody with account on FoxtrotAlpha please post emphasized parts in the comments? There are some retards over there who are actually saying "thank you for your analysis Tyler" without being sarcastic...

What a pile of f*cking retards!!!

Russia spend less than half a billion $ for almost half a year of RuAF and RuNAVY operations in Syria. Didn't US spent such money just to train 5 militants to fight with ISIL?

medo wrote:Russia spend less than half a billion $ for almost half a year of RuAF and RuNAVY operations in Syria. Didn't US spent such money just to train 5 militants to fight with ISIL?

I was reading French news about that and I laugh so hard. They said Russia spend 2-3 billion per day ...

I think they are moving planes because they are really too much for the objectives they will have from now. For taking cities Ka-52 and Mi-28 are much more usefull. Putin did that just to put pressure on Assad but I don't think he will let west/Turkey/SA do what they want. I just read on RT french that Putin said it's just matter of hours to send again aircrafts if political decision isn't found.

Plus, helicopter pilots will obtain war experience.

If political solution isn't foud, I think Russians will replace Assad (diplomaticly, not like Amin in Afghanistan. It's clear that even Russian are fed up with him because of his stupid attitude) by one of his more moderate family member or general. The problem is not Assad family but Assad himself. And continu to support them with their airforce.

INTERNATIONAL MILITARY REVIEW – SYRIA, MAR. 16, 2016

https://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-mar-16-2016/

INTERNATIONAL MILITARY REVIEW – SYRIA – IRAQ, MAR. 17, 2016

Looks like Iran is increasing it's presence in both Syria and Iraq.

"Iran may deploy commandos and snipers in Iraq and Syria as military advisers, Deputy Chief Liaison of the Army’s Ground Force General Ali Arasteh told reporters on Mar.16. He added the first group of commandos and snipers are being trained for the purpose and the country might decide to send them to Iraq and Syria in the near future".



https://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-iraq-mar-17-2016/

KoTeMoRe wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:This one is for KoTeMoRe to dissect:

PN19K5 Night vision sight from NPZ. Nice little things the Syrians are getting with their 74M's. Something however is even more funny, guy's wearing Iranian made boots seen mostly with the Al Nujaba, Iraqi Hezbullah crowd.

BTW I want to hear your opinion about Ankara hosting Al Qaeda flag waving conferences (in a building named after Ataturk). I mean how far gone is Turkish society that the only credible secular force left is the Kurds who are under military siege? Is there any secular ethnic Turkish force left, or are they all castrated eunuchs who won't dare challenge Wahabbist/Salafist savagery?

Like I said, how far gone is Turkish society? In another thread you said Konya, Turkey looks like Raqqa without the bombs, would you be so kind to please elaborate further?

Most likely a new Russian casualty near Palmyra:

https://twitter.com/Ald_Aba/status/710486043443798016



There was also a body shown, a soldier was wearing Multicam. Yes, it's not official RuAF camo, but we've seen Gorka, Cifra and multicam in Syria..

Bolt wrote:Most likely a new Russian casualty near Palmyra:

https://twitter.com/Ald_Aba/status/710486043443798016



There was also a body shown, a soldier was wearing Multicam. Yes, it's not official RuAF camo, but we've seen Gorka, Cifra and multicam in Syria..

If that's a jihadi photo I find it odd that they haven't flooded the internet with them Aloha snakbaring over his body...

Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 3 hours ago
Leith Abou Fadel Retweeted Al-Masdar News
ISIS is claiming that they have captured the body of a Russian military adviser in Palmyra.........
http://www.almasdarnews.com/?p=37215

How could they get hold of the body?
Did these personnel went in as a recce unit and got ambushed along with his Syrian colleagues?

GarryB wrote:

I also aggree that mods should FFS do their job, you do actually realize that the reputation and the frequency of actual contributers to this forum has decreased because of Trolls, who are spamming like ultron did 5 times after his own posts, that is not just spamming but trolling and it does not get more obvious.

You claim it is a clear cut case of Spamming/Trolling, but when I look at Ultrons posts I see someone upset and frustrated with Putins decisions, who thinks "they" have been betrayed.

I think Putins decision to withdraw aircraft came as a genuine surprise to everyone, and I think as usual Vann and Ultron are over reacting... just as you are now demanding they get a ban for expressing their opinion.

If someone can't take a little anti Putin opinion then I think there is no where else on the net where they will find a safe place to be... opinions on Putin differ widely even amongst Russians who don't all love him and everything he does... and I am sure Putin himself would say Putin worship is unhealthy and that he is not perfect by any stretch.

This isn't about Holy Putin being touched and desacred by someones gibberish, this is about whinny bitching and obvious SPAMMING which you yourself just a year ago was pretty clear to someone else that more than one post by the same guy after another is strictly considered spam and here we have Ultron spamming 5 times some gibberish, offtopic without waiting for someone else to comment. We had this one guy with his shizophrenia he did the same thing, but he actually had a justification to do so, real or not he gave an explanation and it seemed believable. Ultron did nothing and will continue do nothing else but troll this forum and spam with gibberish.

I never mentioned Vann7, even tho he whines quite alot, however he did land a few times not to shabby posts on some things that i aggree on. I have no problem with him, i do not demand ban on him even tho others might not aggree.

GarryB wrote:
Everyone is allowed to have a rant from time to time, including yourself on several occasions... I am not banning people for that.

I am a contributer to this forum, even my nemesis would aggree on that. I did not join this forum to be a whiny bitch for the reason of whinning or bitching, i came to this place because of educated people like you, mindstorm and others to get educated, to learn and eventually to contribute. I think i have a purpose here to be, Ultron on the other hand aswell now Solncepek are more than obvious trolls. Maybe we should install a spambot counter or a comment counter that will count the comments of every user what they are actually writing and summerize how often someone whines and bitches compared to what questions does he ask (to learn) or what does he contribute (teach) or just have a on-topic discussion. There are to many users now that are not doing any of those three things, which are the core essence of every single forum because at least one of those is a must to have a purpose to be on a forum, everything else has no purpose and trolling or spamming contradicts with all three parameters.

I will quote Solncepek again to point out why he is an obvious troll. Solncepek (russian user name of the TOS-1 Buratino which is traditionally a Flower for Artillery units in russian military (Sunflower)) meaning that guy knows russian which we could see from other comments by that very same person. Now that very same person that most probably understand the russian language, meaning can acquire information FIRST HAND without being filtered and altered by BBC or other Anti Russian controlled MSM to actually indoctrinate him. He now posts this horseshit.

Solncepek wrote:
Some things never change...

Do you remember ?
1991 - it was USSR, and then Russia, Ukraine, Belorussia etc....
90s - it was Jugoslavia, and then Serbia, Kosovo, Montenegro etc...
2000's - it was Lybia....
2015 - it was Syria, and then Kurdistan, Alewistan etc...

At the end will be something like this :
202x - it was Russia, and then Siberia, Kievan Rus, Moscow Rus etc...

Sad, but true Sad

Russia and her friends are doomed. Why ?
It's not about bad luck or stronger adversaries...

It's mostly about bad management and short-sighted government. Nothing more or less.
Firstly, it was Gorbachev and next Yeltsin.
Now it's Putin.

Yes, i know, Putin receives a bad heritage from both previous, but this is not an excuse.
I simply cannot rank Putin high enough, he doesn't deserve it.

15 years of leadership and ...nothing! 80 times the budget household after the PSA treaty was cancelled and reversed by Putin (Partner Sharing Aggreement) which states that British and US oil companies can drill and get russian oil in russia aswell on russian oilrigs on sea,while russian state has to pay for all accomodations of russian workers while brits and US earn all the money. The strongest army on this planet on land, last bastion of european civilization, the only anti NWO country there is right now.

Nothing more than Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
Putin was always only on defensive.
15 years of defence - looking back we can see how long were these years.
No change, no alternation of the course.
Always following the world's affairs and development, trying to react and adjust towards them.
There was a time, when USSR did the world's agenda...

Russia doesn't need such a leaders. Russia needs a man, who can change the current trend.
Trend, which is unfavourable for the country and if it goes in the same manner, the end will be disastrous.

In 1991 USSR had 1/6 of the earth area, almost 300 mln. citizens, developed industry and economics, oil, natural gas...and Gorbachev
In 1945 USSR had almost nothing after bloody WW 2, but Stalin...

I cannot concede , that USSR '91 has been in weaker stance than USSR '45.

It never rains, but it pours...


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I am fucking sorry, but someone who does fucking speak my language and can have informations first hand unprepared and unfiltered by Anti-Putin horseshit controlled MSM comes with this jewfuck. Yes that is an obvious troll. Someone pointed several times out that this guy is a troll, i thought that person was just overreacting, but it does not get more straight out. The point is GarryB, you do not do your job at this moment, the two turks that came here on this forum, coincidendel with the shoot down of Su-24, were let go with their hatred and horseshit by you and other mods while this scum insulted russian soldiers who were murdered by terrorists and nothign happened.

I beg you, either use the wand or maybe we need someone who actually is not affraid of using it. I am not all Pro ban every guy for every horseshit, i am actually happy that this place does not give much of a shit about bans, but we are at a point where this forum has a rotten spot and it lets rot the rest of it. Morpheus keeps posting less, TheArmenian, speheronx has stopped talking about military stuff alltogether, magnon decreased himself due to the current situation to everything but military discussions which i found good before all this shit happened, almost an entire tribe of old forum veterans who are educated in different military matters have stopped posting, almost all military discussions and technological threads have been put on ice, me included because of this dimwitted situation we have right now. Almost entirely there is a cult created by the whining bitches about Putin,Russia and that everything is to be blamed on them, almost no threads are active about technological, tactical/strategic, progress or any discussion related to equipment or use of it like it was the case just half a year back.

I love this forum and i want to keep it and not become some TheMess like shit that has no more relevance filled with worst of the worst without any information value or any reputation to change the former disadvantage to something moderate.

One has to die so the rest may live!

Dima wrote:Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel  3 hours ago
Leith Abou Fadel Retweeted Al-Masdar News
ISIS is claiming that they have captured the body of a Russian military adviser in Palmyra.........
http://www.almasdarnews.com/?p=37215

How could they get hold of the body?
Did these personnel went in as a recce unit and got ambushed along with his Syrian colleagues?

Here's a video.

https://www.nsfwyoutube.com/watch?v=sia5Qaw6BcA

A few seconds of some anonymous dead guy then an extended closeup of a load of cammo gear, some clearly Russian first aid gear. The odd thing is that the soil below the body is very stony grey, whilst the soil below the gear is distinct sandy brown. This suggests to me the video is two separate incidents that have been stitched together. The magazines associated with the weapon are odd, different sizes, colours. Would a Russian military advisor, presumably one of the best, carry this sort of gear?

Garry,
Generally I don't favor banning but Werewolf has valid point and almost everyone might agree to the trolling that happens on a regular basis when important decisions/data point comes. The recent being Russian withdrawal/rotation of forces from Syria. Once that point has been crossed, the trolling has stopped/reduced, now it will restart only at the next point. After all even trolls needs rest.
So why not consider short term vacations like 1 week or a month for trolls during such "peak seasons"?

short_fuze,
Since the video does not have a continuity, we can give it an element of doubt about it being two different incidents.

The gear is too high-speed to be of usual soldier, IMHO.
But would I be glad if that's a fake!

By the way, today Putin has confirmed that there were 5 casualties: he has told that captain Fedor Zhuravlev was in fact killed in Syria and not in Caucasus as it was reported before. He has perished in November.
https://news.mail.ru/politics/25165761/?frommail=1

He was a forward air controller and was killed on duty while leading Russian strategic bombers on target.

Bolt wrote:The gear is too high-speed to be of usual soldier, IMHO.
But would I be glad if that's a fake!

By the way, today Putin has confirmed that there were 5 casualties: he has told that captain Fedor Zhuravlev was in fact killed in Syria and not in Caucasus as it was reported before. He has perished in November.
https://news.mail.ru/politics/25165761/?frommail=1

He was a forward air controller and was killed on duty while leading Russian strategic bombers on target.

A young lad, such a shame. What are his lapel badges?

Claimed to be a GRU party in Syria, photos from a personal device, from IS apparently. Bit strange.

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/710555720673050625

New map, SAA breaking out south.

Fascinating reading the job titles of the first medal winners, a couple of gongs to the bosses in the MoD and in Syria, but the others are a mixed bunch! The aircrew in particular don't seem to be from a 'normal' squadron, hand picked perhaps?

The President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin presented the servicemen and specialists of the Military Industrial Complex, who had distinguished themselves during the performance of special tasks in Syria, with state orders.

Thus, the
- Chief of Staff – First Deputy Commander of the Central MD Colonel General Alexander Dvornikov, * My comment - also the Boss in Syria (next chief of Staff?)
- senior navigator and test pilot of the 929th State flight testing center Colonel Viktor Romanov,
- Deputy Commander of an Air Squadron of the 47th mixed regiment of the 6th Air Force and Air Defence Army Major Andrei Diyachnko,
- specialist of the Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces Colonel Vadim Baykulov
received from the President awards – the Gold Star of the Hero of Russia – in the St. George Hall on Thursday.

Order of Saint George was awarded to the Chief of Staff
– the First Deputy Commander of the Western MD 1st Tank Army Yuri Yarovitsky.

- Chief of an artillery unit Lieutenant Colonel Nikolai Nozdrenko,
- navigator Major Andrei Zakharov,
- Deputy Regiment Commander for flight training Lieutenant Colonel Yaroslav Yakunin
were decorated with the Orders of Courage.

Cross of St. George of the 4th class was awarded to the
- section commander – reconnaissance officer of a reactive artillery unit of the 810th Separate Brigade of the Black Sea Fleet Marine Troops junior sergeant Alexander Anshukov.

- Commander of the Rostov-on-Don submarine Captain 2nd rank Andrei Adamsky,
- engineer of an alarm section of the Aerospace Forces’ Control Centre senior lieutenant Yelena Vesyolova
were awarded with the Medal of the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland".

http://eng.syria.mil.ru/en/index/syria/news/more.htm?id=12080882@egNews

Werewolf wrote:

GarryB wrote:

I also aggree that mods should FFS do their job, you do actually realize that the reputation and the frequency of actual contributers to this forum has decreased because of Trolls, who are spamming like ultron did 5 times after his own posts, that is not just spamming but trolling and it does not get more obvious.

You claim it is a clear cut case of Spamming/Trolling, but when I look at Ultrons posts I see someone upset and frustrated with Putins decisions, who thinks "they" have been betrayed.

I think Putins decision to withdraw aircraft came as a genuine surprise to everyone, and I think as usual Vann and Ultron are over reacting... just as you are now demanding they get a ban for expressing their opinion.

If someone can't take a little anti Putin opinion then I think there is no where else on the net where they will find a safe place to be... opinions on Putin differ widely even amongst Russians who don't all love him and everything he does... and I am sure Putin himself would say Putin worship is unhealthy and that he is not perfect by any stretch.

This isn't about Holy Putin being touched and desacred by someones gibberish, this is about whinny bitching and obvious SPAMMING which you yourself just a year ago was pretty clear to someone else that more than one post by the same guy after another is strictly considered spam and here we have Ultron spamming 5 times some gibberish, offtopic without waiting for someone else to comment. We had this one guy with his shizophrenia he did the same thing, but he actually had a justification to do so, real or not he gave an explanation and it seemed believable. Ultron did nothing and will continue do nothing else but troll this forum and spam with gibberish.

I never mentioned Vann7, even tho he whines quite alot, however he did land a few times not to shabby posts on some things that i aggree on. I have no problem with him, i do not demand ban on him even tho others might not aggree.

GarryB wrote:
Everyone is allowed to have a rant from time to time, including yourself on several occasions... I am not banning people for that.

I am a contributer to this forum, even my nemesis would aggree on that. I did not join this forum to be a whiny bitch for the reason of whinning or bitching, i came to this place because of educated people like you, mindstorm and others to get educated, to learn and eventually to contribute. I think i have a purpose here to be, Ultron on the other hand aswell now Solncepek are more than obvious trolls. Maybe we should install a spambot counter or a comment counter that will count the comments of every user what they are actually writing and summerize how often someone whines and bitches compared to what questions does he ask (to learn) or what does he contribute (teach) or just have a on-topic discussion. There are to many users now that are not doing any of those three things, which are the core essence of every single forum because at least one of those is a must to have a purpose to be on a forum, everything else has no purpose and trolling or spamming contradicts with all three parameters.

I will quote Solncepek again to point out why he is an obvious troll. Solncepek (russian user name of the TOS-1 Buratino which is traditionally a Flower for Artillery units in russian military (Sunflower)) meaning that guy knows russian which we could see from other comments by that very same person. Now that very same person that most probably understand the russian language, meaning can acquire information FIRST HAND without being filtered and altered by BBC or other Anti Russian controlled MSM to actually indoctrinate him. He now posts this horseshit.

Solncepek wrote:
Some things never change...

Do you remember ?
1991 - it was USSR, and then Russia, Ukraine, Belorussia etc....
90s - it was Jugoslavia, and then Serbia, Kosovo, Montenegro etc...
2000's - it was Lybia....
2015 - it was Syria, and then Kurdistan, Alewistan etc...

At the end will be something like this :
202x - it was Russia, and then Siberia, Kievan Rus, Moscow Rus etc...

Sad, but true Sad

Russia and her friends are doomed. Why ?
It's not about bad luck or stronger adversaries...

It's mostly about bad management and short-sighted government. Nothing more or less.
Firstly, it was Gorbachev and next Yeltsin.
Now it's Putin.

Yes, i know, Putin receives a bad heritage from both previous, but this is not an excuse.
I simply cannot rank Putin high enough, he doesn't deserve it.

15 years of leadership and ...nothing! 80 times the budget household after the PSA treaty was cancelled and reversed by Putin (Partner Sharing Aggreement) which states that British and US oil companies can drill and get russian oil in russia aswell on russian oilrigs on sea,while russian state has to pay for all accomodations of russian workers while brits and US earn all the money. The strongest army on this planet on land, last bastion of european civilization, the only anti NWO country there is right now.

Nothing more than Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
Putin was always only on defensive.
15 years of defence - looking back we can see how long were these years.
No change, no alternation of the course.
Always following the world's affairs and development, trying to react and adjust towards them.
There was a time, when USSR did the world's agenda...

Russia doesn't need such a leaders. Russia needs a man, who can change the current trend.
Trend, which is unfavourable for the country and if it goes in the same manner, the end will be disastrous.

In 1991 USSR had 1/6 of the earth area, almost 300 mln. citizens, developed industry and economics, oil, natural gas...and Gorbachev
In 1945 USSR had almost nothing after bloody WW 2, but Stalin...

I cannot concede , that USSR '91 has been in weaker stance than USSR '45.

It never rains, but it pours...


Last edited by Solncepek on Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:27 pm; edited 2 times in total

I am fucking sorry, but someone who does fucking speak my language and can have informations first hand unprepared and unfiltered by Anti-Putin horseshit controlled MSM comes with this jewfuck. Yes that is an obvious troll. Someone pointed several times out that this guy is a troll, i thought that person was just overreacting, but it does not get more straight out. The point is GarryB, you do not do your job at this moment, the two turks that came here on this forum, coincidendel with the shoot down of Su-24, were let go with their hatred and horseshit by you and other mods while this scum insulted russian soldiers who were murdered by terrorists and nothign happened.

I beg you, either use the wand or maybe we need someone who actually is not affraid of using it. I am not all Pro ban every guy for every horseshit, i am actually happy that this place does not give much of a shit about bans, but we are at a point where this forum has a rotten spot and it lets rot the rest of it. Morpheus keeps posting less, TheArmenian, speheronx has stopped talking about military stuff alltogether, magnon decreased himself due to the current situation to everything but military discussions which i found good before all this shit happened, almost an entire tribe of old forum veterans who are educated in different military matters have stopped posting, almost all military discussions and technological threads have been put on ice, me included because of this dimwitted situation we have right now. Almost entirely there is a cult created by the whining bitches about Putin,Russia and that everything is to be blamed on them, almost no threads are active about technological, tactical/strategic, progress or any discussion related to equipment or use of it like it was the case just half a year back.

I love this forum and i want to keep it and not become some TheMess like shit that has no more relevance filled with worst of the worst without any information value or any reputation to change the former disadvantage to something moderate.

One has to die so the rest may live!

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Garry,

For all the reasons provided by Werewolf, I think it should be obvious that all of the accounts held by Solncepek and ultron should get a permanent ban quickly.

OminousSpudd wrote:

Bolt wrote:Most likely a new Russian casualty near Palmyra:

https://twitter.com/Ald_Aba/status/710486043443798016



There was also a body shown, a soldier was wearing Multicam. Yes, it's not official RuAF camo, but we've seen Gorka, Cifra and multicam in Syria..

If that's a jihadi photo I find it odd that they haven't flooded the internet with them Aloha snakbaring over his body...

Looks like IMP-2 mine detector, that is quite oldschool item. That guy was more likely to be sapper than SOF.

Bolt wrote:Most likely a new Russian casualty near Palmyra:

https://twitter.com/Ald_Aba/status/710486043443798016



There was also a body shown, a soldier was wearing Multicam. Yes, it's not official RuAF camo, but we've seen Gorka, Cifra and multicam in Syria..

And on rifle it looks like IWT 640Х Харон optronic device http://xn--80aycufi.xn--p1ai/?product=iwt-640х-харон Which from what i am aware was not issued in big quantities.





Also HEL-STAR helmet multipurpose light source.

It is a Xaron/Charon witha Doctersight 3 on top. The MD is indeed very old school. Weird. For the rest gear looks legit. The dead body too. I don't understand how he was killed alone. Now in close combatthese things happen alas.

Rest in peace.