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    Sweden and Finland accession to NATO

    GarryB
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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:53 am

    They are now a European democracy... it does not matter what the majority of the population in that country think... it is all about education and information control... same as in Sweden... suppress all information about criminality by immigrants, and if you say anything bad about immigration then you are obviously racist... but when the information is changed or simply withheld then how can informed decisions even be made?

    Well obviously they can't.

    The west has the same problem with Russia... the western experts on Russia are fucking idiots like Pavel Felgenhauer and other morons with no qualifations other than often a grudge that things have changed and Russia has developed and cannot continue to be raped by western so called businessmen. Using this expert advice like the HATO trained Georgian forces would crush any tiny force Russia could mobilise in a short period of time, or Kiev will destroy Putins drunken army and use western super weapons to crush them on the battlefield in weeks if not months... but they keep doubling down... they are not wrong... sanctions are working... we just need more and harsher sanctions for it to start working... I am sure the 12th round of super sanctions is what they need to do the trick but it is OK if they don't work then obviously the 13th round will get it done.

    The amusing thing is that the west thinks it is the aggressive Russians that are thwarting them at every turn and damaging the wests reputation, but they were never in any position to do that even if they wanted to.

    Russia owned a lot of US debt... you don't buy a countries debt if you intend to destroy it... then you wont get your money back. Russia sold all the US debt it bought because the US was stopping it from using US dollars so obviously Russia needs to distance itself from any economic activity that involves US dollars... which means the US is no longer a useful international currency if a country like Russia can't use it who else could be next?

    These are the geniuses that Finland and Sweden are throwing their lot in with... which is why I am happy... let them join and reveal their true feelings openly... don't hide your hate... let Russia see it for what it is and they can look elsewhere for trade and relations with other countries and not waste their time with you.
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    Post  walle83 Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:17 am

    lancelot wrote:
    walle83 wrote:Nonsence, a majority of the finish people are positive too Nato since Russia invaded Ukraine.
    https://svenska.yle.fi/a/7-10013570

    This was in January 2022:

    https://news.yahoo.com/finlands-pm-says-nato-membership-192216878.html
    https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000008515424.html

    "In a recent poll by Finland's largest daily Helsingin Sanomat, 28% of respondents wanted Finland to join NATO, 42% were against and the rest were unsure, meaning an 8 percentage point rise in the share of those in favour from the last poll at the end of 2019."

    They basically took advantage of popular sentiment right after the SMO started to ramrod what they wanted in the first place. Why else do you think they were buying MLRS and the F-35 even before the conflict started?

    And in November 2022 78% of the Finish people were positive to joining Nato. Way to go Putin.

    https://www.hbl.fi/artikel/e1fbd97b-cb46-4a22-9e8b-0918b3e14391

    "78 percent of Finns have a positive attitude towards Finland's NATO membership. This is shown by the opinion poll that the business delegation Eva published on Wednesday.
    The last measurement was made in March. At the time, 60 percent supported Finnish membership in the defense alliance.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:56 am

    Hahaha... HATO makes war by committee... the more members it gets the weaker it becomes...

    It is only a matter of time now before Fins will start to realise they are now a hostile country to their large neighbour and what they will get out of that is a fence and an occupying force of US and UK and other foreign soldiers on their territory.

    Doesn't really change anything for Russia except they don't need to worry about sending cheap wood to Finland to buy it back as expensive paper products any more...

    Finland is so small and so close that Iskander missiles will cover most targets, but ground launched cruise missiles should make Sweden an easy target too if needed.

    What is really good is that two more European countries show their hostile faces to Russia so Russia can be in no doubt where they stand and not waste time looking for good relations there.

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