Syrian War: News #13

They might be a US think tank but this a pretty good analysis of the tribal situation facing the US east of the Euphrates.

https://jamestown.org/program/raqqa-challenges-posed-syrias-tribal-networks/

"GOVERNMENT FORCES RAPIDLY ADVANCING TOWARD STRATEGIC RESAFA TOWN IN RAQQAH PROVINCE."

https://southfront.org/government-forces-rapidly-advancing-toward-strategic-resafa-town-in-raqqah-province/








I don't know why they are using Chevrolet, Toyota and pick up trucks from NATO countries companies, they should be using Russian or Iranian companies, no need to support west companies.

par far wrote:.
I don't know why they are using Chevrolet, Toyota and pick up trucks from NATO countries companies, they should be using Russian or Iranian companies, no need to support west companies.

Oh you are definitely giving ultron run for his money...

OTOH, I assume you plan on paying for those Russian SUVs?

New Peto map, this was not supposed to happen!

Important if correct, the SAA reducing the vulnerability of the road to Aleppo.

Yusha Yuseef‏ MIG29_ 3h3 hours ago
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PapaDragon wrote:

par far wrote:.
I don't know why they are using Chevrolet, Toyota and pick up trucks from NATO countries companies, they should be using Russian or Iranian companies, no need to support west companies.

Oh you are definitely giving ultron run for his money...

OTOH, I assume you plan on paying for those Russian SUVs?

Take a closer look at the video, they have some new pickups there from NATO countries, someone is paying for those(it is not the US, it is not the Saudi's or any other Gulf countries, it is not Israel), it is Russia, Iran or the Syrian government themselves, so who ever is paying for those, should buy form Russia or Iran, why support NATO countries companies?

JohninMK wrote:New Peto map, this was not supposed to happen!

Looking at East Deir Ezzor and East of Bir Al Wahab, that is a crap load of Oil and Gas Fields, no wonder why everyone is focusing so much on this area, those need to be under the control of the SAA ASAP.

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:New Peto map, this was not supposed to happen!

Looking at East Deir Ezzor and East of Bir Al Wahab, that is a crap load of Oil and Gas Fields, no wonder why everyone is focusing so much on this area, those need to be under the control of the SAA ASAP.

I somehow doubt that that, although attractive financially, compared to their 100,000 citizens in and the strategic importance of Deir, is why they are moving as fast as they can.

JohninMK wrote:New Peto map, this was not supposed to happen!

It was so obvious.

As always the propaganda failed. And the propagandistis that failed, have not now an easy exit.

The propaganda was wrong about the Syrian-Kurd "war" near Tabqa.
The propaganda was wrong about the ISIS leaving to the US Raqqa.
The propaganda was wrong about Deir Ezzor.

Syria and Russia doing the obvious, are in a good position.

There are lots of things the propagandists, US and Israel are not understanding about the Kurds of Syria. The Kurds share not the goals of the US, Israel and their propagandists in the Syria.

Make no mistake ...
Syria Army and Kurds are not are war , only because the Syrian army busy fighting ISIS.
But if you look at the zones controlled by Kurds in 2011 ,when the civil war began vs now.
You will see that the Kurds increased their territories control by One thousand percent.
They now control Half of Syria and a lot of oil fields and you bet the Syrian government will question that. And the kurds following americans advices will not return the lands they
captured.. So there is a potential war conflict there ,once ISIS defeated and Syria get controls everywhere else. Another potential war will be Syria vs Turkey for control of IDLIB. So this is far from Over.. Russia do have a chance however to influence Turkey with economic pressure if they
refuse to abandon the place. And any new civil war in Turkey ,where he gets removed also have
a big chance of restoring relations between Turkey and Syria and Turkey remove their military
from Syria.

All said , Russia diplomacy and economic influence will play a major role in Syria in solving
diplomatically the conflict that will sooner or later happen between Kurds and Syria and between Turkey and Syria. If Trump manage to hold power and convince its pentagon to Abandon the Syrian project.. it will make things easier for Russia . and move towards ending
the war. the wild card will be Turkey . But really All that is needed to force Turkey out of Syria
will be to collapse its economy.. It will force them to retreat for being unable to finance its army..and if Trump is in power ,he will not support providing money to Turkey to continue the
invasion. In long terms ,that is 10 years more or less Syria have real chance to recover back
most of its land if manage to restore its economy and recruit new military to a decent size.

par far wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

par far wrote:.
I don't know why they are using Chevrolet, Toyota and pick up trucks from NATO countries companies, they should be using Russian or Iranian companies, no need to support west companies.

Oh you are definitely giving ultron run for his money...

OTOH, I assume you plan on paying for those Russian SUVs?

Take a closer look at the video, they have some new pickups there from NATO countries, someone is paying for those(it is not the US, it is not the Saudi's or any other Gulf countries, it is not Israel), it is Russia, Iran or the Syrian government themselves, so who ever is paying for those, should buy form Russia or Iran, why support NATO countries companies?

If you understand as new every thing under 10 years old, we see "new" trucks, but for sure Russia is not buying new civil trucks for Syria. No-one. American or not.

Massive IS resistance against SAA around Arak.
In east Hama too...
east Hama


Around Arak



Aleppo/Raqqa


But SAA keeps advancing

Damaged SAA tanks in Homs

These images are not about "damaged" tanks. These images are about tanks to be repaired in the plant in Homs for this purpose. After a time without work, one of the first things Russia did after begin its intervention in the war of Syria in 2015 was to reopen this plant. It was a reason for it. Nothing says that these tanks returned damaged from the frontline to include them this way in the previous comment. It is not clear that these tanks are all of Syrian oringin. And is likely that most of them only need minor reparations.

The previous comment is misleading.

Mixing sources for a bad result, and maybe with a bad purpose.

This is the origin of the pictures:

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2665826.html

eehnie wrote:These images are not about "damaged" tanks. These images are about tanks to be repaired in the plant in Homs for this purpose. After a time without work, one of the first things Russia did after begin its intervention in the war of Syria in 2015 was to reopen this plant. It was a reason for it. Nothing says that these tanks returned damaged from the frontline to include them this way in the previous comment. It is not clear that these tanks are all of Syrian oringin. And is likely that most of them only need minor reparations.

The previous comment is misleading.

Mixing sources for a bad result, and maybe with a bad purpose.

This is the origin of the pictures:

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2665826.html

....You are a funny guy honestly.

If the tanks need to be repaired then they are damaged....I assume you understand this concept. You can see battle damage on those tanks....Dude just no...I can SEE battle damage and you call others propagandists. Calm never calmed battle damage, did he? he just said the word "damage" and you assumed but again I can see battle damage on some of these thanks so yes some of these tanks have been damaged in combat.

Oh wait...I forgot! you know better than anyone else including Assad. You are a die-hard arm chair general ain't you?.

JohninMK wrote:

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:New Peto map, this was not supposed to happen!

Looking at East Deir Ezzor and East of Bir Al Wahab, that is a crap load of Oil and Gas Fields, no wonder why everyone is focusing so much on this area, those need to be under the control of the SAA ASAP.

I somehow doubt that that, although attractive financially, compared to their 100,000 citizens in and the strategic importance of Deir, is why they are moving as fast as they can.

The oil fields and gas fields are a huge reason why Russia, the SAA and the allies are moving toward Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor and it is the same reason why the US badly wanted Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor.

calm wrote:Massive IS resistance against SAA around Arak.
In east Hama too...
east Hama


Around Arak



Aleppo/Raqqa


But SAA keeps advancing

Damaged SAA tanks in Homs

ISIS running out of places to go. It will be fight to the end in a lot of positions.

eehnie wrote:These images are not about "damaged" tanks. These images are about tanks to be repaired in the plant in Homs for this purpose. After a time without work, one of the first things Russia did after begin its intervention in the war of Syria in 2015 was to reopen this plant. It was a reason for it. Nothing says that these tanks returned damaged from the frontline to include them this way in the previous comment. It is not clear that these tanks are all of Syrian oringin. And is likely that most of them only need minor reparations.

The previous comment is misleading.

Mixing sources for a bad result, and maybe with a bad purpose.

This is the origin of the pictures:

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2665826.html

Everything i post is checked and it's true.

No mixing of sources, you can see watermark of sputnik on every photo. If you were smart enough to go there and check for my claims you wouldn't blame me for some nonsense misleadings.
Only one that is misleading here is you. You are trying to blame me for propagandist. Probably for zionist spy or something like that from your imagination.


Source
https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/874265341454581760


This is original source, not some bmpd
http://sputnikimages.com/en/site/feature/549765/


As photoreporter Mikhail Voskresenskiy has wrote in description
Damaged tanks at an armored vehicle maintenance company in Homs
http://sputnikimages.com/en/site/gallery/index/id/3127760/context/%7B%22feature%22%3A%22549765%22%7D/

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:New Peto map, this was not supposed to happen!

Looking at East Deir Ezzor and East of Bir Al Wahab, that is a crap load of Oil and Gas Fields, no wonder why everyone is focusing so much on this area, those need to be under the control of the SAA ASAP.

I somehow doubt that that, although attractive financially, compared to their 100,000 citizens in and the strategic importance of Deir, is why they are moving as fast as they can.

The oil fields and gas fields are a huge reason why Russia, the SAA and the allies are moving toward Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor and it is the same reason why the US badly wanted Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor.

No doubt about it. Grabbing Libya's oil was one of the prime reasons for that regime change operation. Syria's oil and gas were
supposed to fall into NATO hands. And Iran was supposed to be isolated further.

Do not pretend to say to us that this

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201706181054742730-germany-terror-attack-arrest/

and this

https://sputniknews.com/russia/201706181054742289-plane-prototype-tests/

are the same source, and that I can mix the pictures of both to create a misleading relate. You mixed pictures of different origin to give a misleading picture.

Again.

Nothing says that these tanks returned damaged from the frontline to include them this way in the previous comment.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

eehnie wrote:These images are not about "damaged" tanks. These images are about tanks to be repaired in the plant in Homs for this purpose. After a time without work, one of the first things Russia did after begin its intervention in the war of Syria in 2015 was to reopen this plant. It was a reason for it. Nothing says that these tanks returned damaged from the frontline to include them this way in the previous comment. It is not clear that these tanks are all of Syrian oringin. And is likely that most of them only need minor reparations.

The previous comment is misleading.

Mixing sources for a bad result, and maybe with a bad purpose.

This is the origin of the pictures:

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2665826.html

....You are a funny guy honestly.

If the tanks need to be repaired then they are damaged....I assume you understand this concept. You can see battle damage on those tanks....Dude just no...I can SEE battle damage and you call others propagandists. Calm never calmed battle damage, did he? he just said the word "damage" and you assumed but again I can see battle damage on some of these thanks so yes some of these tanks have been damaged in combat.

Oh wait...I forgot! you know better than anyone else including Assad. You are a die-hard arm chair general ain't you?.

What is funny to me is to see an American soldier working in Syria here (like you claimed to be) pretending to give fair information, pretending to be pro-Russian, and being not still in the jail.

kvs wrote:

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:New Peto map, this was not supposed to happen!

Looking at East Deir Ezzor and East of Bir Al Wahab, that is a crap load of Oil and Gas Fields, no wonder why everyone is focusing so much on this area, those need to be under the control of the SAA ASAP.

I somehow doubt that that, although attractive financially, compared to their 100,000 citizens in and the strategic importance of Deir, is why they are moving as fast as they can.

The oil fields and gas fields are a huge reason why Russia, the SAA and the allies are moving toward Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor and it is the same reason why the US badly wanted Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor.

No doubt about it.  Grabbing Libya's oil was one of the prime reasons for that regime change operation.  Syria's oil and gas were
supposed to fall into NATO hands.   And Iran was supposed to be isolated further.  

This is why Gaddafi's son said that "Libya is like McDonald's to NATO". Getting a hold of Libyan Oil and Gas field was one of three main reasons that NATO attacked Libya, the other one's were to quash the gold-backed African currency that Libya wanted and the other one was to get a hold of Libya's gold. I just wish that Russia helped Libya, the same way it is helping Syria, Russia would have gained a trust worthy partner in Libya.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-emails-reveal-nato-killed-gaddafi-to-stop-libyan-creation-of-gold-backed-currency/5594742

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:New Peto map, this was not supposed to happen!

Looking at East Deir Ezzor and East of Bir Al Wahab, that is a crap load of Oil and Gas Fields, no wonder why everyone is focusing so much on this area, those need to be under the control of the SAA ASAP.

I somehow doubt that that, although attractive financially, compared to their 100,000 citizens in and the strategic importance of Deir, is why they are moving as fast as they can.

The oil fields and gas fields are a huge reason why Russia, the SAA and the allies are moving toward Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor and it is the same reason why the US badly wanted Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor.

Bit of ISIS scorched earth going on so maybe assets that need work before its of value. I wasn't aware that these fields were of large commercial value.

Qalaat Al Mudiq‏ @QalaatAlMudiq 3h3 hours ago
Replying to @QalaatAlMudiq

E. #Palmyra: recent sat image showing #ISIS set fire to Arak Gas facility and its pipeline. http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.678817&lon=38.621664&z=14&m …

JohninMK wrote:

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:New Peto map, this was not supposed to happen!

Looking at East Deir Ezzor and East of Bir Al Wahab, that is a crap load of Oil and Gas Fields, no wonder why everyone is focusing so much on this area, those need to be under the control of the SAA ASAP.

I somehow doubt that that, although attractive financially, compared to their 100,000 citizens in and the strategic importance of Deir, is why they are moving as fast as they can.

The oil fields and gas fields are a huge reason why Russia, the SAA and the allies are moving toward Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor and it is the same reason why the US badly wanted Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor.

Bit of ISIS scorched earth going on so maybe assets that need work before its of value. I wasn't aware that these fields were of large commercial value.

Qalaat Al Mudiq‏ @QalaatAlMudiq 3h3 hours ago
Replying to @QalaatAlMudiq

E. #Palmyra: recent sat image showing #ISIS set fire to Arak Gas facility and its pipeline. http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.678817&lon=38.621664&z=14&m …

These assholes are using the same tactics as the Nazi's, they will do the same to anything they can get their hands on.

calm wrote:Massive IS resistance against SAA around Arak.
In east Hama too..............

But SAA keeps advancing

While ISIS bleeds around Arak SAA will roll into DeZ from the northwest. So far so good I guess.

calm wrote:
Damaged SAA tanks in Homs

.......

I remember back when Russia jumped into this thing that one of the big issues was SAA's refusal to evacuate damaged tanks in order to repair them. They just expected new ones to be gifted to them every time they fuck up and run.  Russians had to beat the habit into them.

Good to see it finally paid off. Most of this is perfectly fixable, especially pre-T72 stuff.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

eehnie wrote:...............

Oh wait...I forgot! you know better than anyone else including Assad. You are a die-hard arm chair general ain't you?.

Definitely the hardest of die-hards....

par far wrote:................
The oil fields and gas fields are a huge reason why Russia, the SAA and the allies are moving toward Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor and it is the same reason why the US badly wanted Southern Syria and Deir Ezzor.

Population comes first you nimrod.  And even if oil is such a big deal you still need to control population centers in order to legitimately claim control of neighboring resources.

This is real life, not a video game. You don't get bonus point for Vespene gas.

eehnie wrote:...............
What is funny to me is to see an American soldier working in Syria here (like you claimed to be) pretending to give fair information, pretending to be pro-Russian, and being not still in the jail.

Will you be putting him in jail?

If yes then give me a call, I'll need to get the popcorn ready....

par far wrote:

JohninMK wrote:...........
E. #Palmyra: recent sat image showing #ISIS set fire to Arak Gas facility and its pipeline. http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.678817&lon=38.621664&z=14&m …[/i]

These assholes are using the same tactics as the Nazi's, they will do the same to anything they can get their hands on.

Saddam Hussein would be more appropriate example in this case...