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    Post  George1 Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:15 pm

    The Russian Tu-214ON Open Skies aircraft made its maiden flight as a reconnaissance aircraft.

    The Tu-214ON aircraft took off from the airfield near Taganrog, after which it flew along the coast of the Crimea and Krasnodar Territory. The main task is to check the camouflage of military objects and the ability of the air defense system to detect air targets in the passive location mode. The flight was completed on Thursday, March 4, and the plane has now returned to Moscow.

    (...) Tu-214ON performed an observation and reconnaissance flight from a military airfield near Taganrog along the coasts of the Krasnodar Territory and Crimea. Its main goal was to check the camouflage and security of military facilities, units and formations located there, including the Sevastopol and Novorossiysk naval bases.

    - said the source.

    According to him, the first flight lasted more than 3 hours, following its results a decision will be made to modernize the equipment to perform tasks in the interests of the Russian Armed Forces.

    Recall that after the US withdrawn from the Open Skies Treaty, Russia began a similar procedure. As the Ministry of Defense said earlier, after leaving the Don, the Open Skies planes are supposed to be used for reconnaissance, monitoring the security of military facilities, assessing the results of weapons tests and the effectiveness of exercises.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:21 pm

    George1 wrote:

    Recall that after the US withdrawn from the Open Skies Treaty, Russia began a similar procedure.
    Maybe the Biden regime will rejoin.
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    Post  Isos Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:28 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    George1 wrote:

    Recall that after the US withdrawn from the Open Skies Treaty, Russia began a similar procedure.
    Maybe the Biden regime will rejoin.

    Russia won't. The treaty wasn't fair because every Nato country could inspect Russia and share its inspection with all nato.

    Russia would need to inspect every country one by one which gives NATO the right to inspect Russia as many time as there is countries in nato.

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    Post  franco Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:27 pm

    New tasks for the Tu-214ON observation aircraft

    To perform observation flights under the Open Skies Treaty (OON), a small fleet of specially equipped aircraft was created in our country. The newest examples of this kind were two Tu-214ON vehicles, built in 2011-13. In connection with the withdrawal of Russia from the Don, the further fate of the observation aircraft could be called into question, but they have already found a new role.

    Short operation

    By the beginning of the tenth years, the Russian aviation detachment, to perform flights on the DON, included relatively old Tu-154M LK-1 and An-30B aircraft with aerial cameras and some other equipment. In the 2000s, the development of a new aircraft with more advanced surveillance equipment began. The Tu-214 airliner was taken as the basis for it, and the Vega concern was entrusted with the development of the Open Sky Air Surveillance System (ASN OH). Also known is the designation "Airborne Observation Equipment Complex" (BKAN).

    The first Tu-214ON (board number 64519) took off in the summer of 2011, and the second (w / n 64525) went out for testing at the very end of 2013. It was assumed that these aircraft will be used to inspect facilities in the United States. European facilities, in turn, were planned to be checked using old technology. However, such plans were not immediately fulfilled.

    For several years, the Tu-214ON could not start flying: the American side refused to certify such equipment to work on its territory. Washington suspected that the new Russian aircraft did not meet the required characteristics and had "undocumented reconnaissance capabilities."

    International certification of a new type was carried out in September 2018. Then it was possible to obtain a permit for flights from two dozen countries, incl. from the USA. Thanks to this, from April 25 to April 27, 2019, Tu-214ON, w / n 64525, was able to perform the first flights over American territory. During this inspection, military bases, factories and landfills in the states of Texas, New Mexico and Colorado were checked.

    The first series of flights was the last. Just a few months after it, the United States began to look for reasons to withdraw from the Don. In May 2020, Washington formally announced such a decision, and on November 22 withdrew from the agreement. Accordingly, new flights of Tu-214ON or similar equipment from other countries over American territory are now impossible.

    On January 15, responding to the actions of the United States, Russia also began procedures to withdraw from the Don. All the necessary measures will be completed in the near future, and plans for new flights of Russian aircraft over foreign objects have already been canceled. Thus, the short-lived operation of the Tu-214ON in its original role has been completed and, most likely, will not resume.

    Modernization potential

    On February 19, the Rostec press service revealed interesting information about the possible future of the existing Tu-214ON. Concern "Vega", which has developed the ASN ON / BKAN complex, is ready to modernize it to obtain new functions and capabilities. After this modification, the observation aircraft can be used in the military and civilian spheres.

    The Vega leadership claims that the Tu-214ON in a modified version will be able to solve a number of tasks in the interests of the Ministry of Defense. It can be converted into a reconnaissance aircraft with the ability to collect data in different spectra. Also, this aircraft can be used to control the security of objects of the armed forces, to monitor army exercises or as part of tests of various weapons or equipment. The Border Guard Service will be able to use surveillance aircraft to patrol border areas.

    With the help of the modernized Tu-214ON, it is possible to carry out mapping or data collection about the current situation, for example, about ice conditions. Such an aircraft can interest the Ministry of Emergency Situations and other non-military structures.

    Vega argues that the BCAN system is made according to the principles of an open architecture, which simplifies its modernization or restructuring for different tasks. Thus, two Tu-214ONs have the widest opportunities and prospects. The methods and terms of their implementation directly depend on the wishes and plans of customers.

    In a new role

    On March 4, Tu-214ON, number 64519, took off from the airfield in Taganrog, passed along the coast of the Azov Sea and flew around the Crimea perimeter. Then he headed for Anapa, where he performed a number of maneuvers and then flew to Novorossiysk. After several hours of such a flight, the plane returned to Taganrog. The flight was carried out with the transponder turned on, and users of tracking services could watch it in real time.

    Later, the details of this flight became known. As RIA Novosti reported on March 6, the Tu-214ON made a flight in the interests of the Ministry of Defense. The plane checked the security and camouflage of military installations along the route. In particular, they checked the Sevastopol and Novorossiysk naval bases. In addition, the Tu-214ON became a conditional air target, on which the air defense system crews worked out their skills.

    The RIA Novosti source also claims that other, unnamed tasks were solved during the flight. In addition, during the event, it was possible to assess the potential of the Tu-214ON onboard equipment in the context of the typical tasks of the armed forces. Now the military will have to analyze the results of the flight and make a decision on the launch of the operation of the aircraft or the need to modernize it.

    According to open services, flights were carried out later. For example, on the morning of March 23, aircraft w / n 64519 flew from the Chkalovsky airfield to Kubinka, and from there went to Taganrog. Probably, in the coming days, there will be new messages about his "reconnaissance" flights with one purpose or another.

    Basic configuration


    At its core, the Tu-214ON is a reconnaissance aircraft carrying optical-electronic and radio-technical means of collecting information. According to DON, the performance of such equipment is limited. Thanks to this, the aircraft cannot collect unnecessarily detailed information and does not threaten the security of the countries participating in the treaty.

    According to open data, the BKAN complex includes a set of optical-electronic devices of various kinds, a radar complex and a central computer complex with automated workstations. The equipment is controlled by a crew of five people: this is the senior flight representative, as well as the operators of the aerial photographic complex, infrared equipment, television cameras and radar.

    Target equipment is located on the lower deck, incl. under the protruding fairings. The aircraft is equipped with a side-looking radar "Ronsard" with a swath of up to 25 km and a field of view of 50 km. Collection and recording of data for subsequent processing is provided. Radar resolution is limited to 3 m.

    Installed three digital aerial cameras, one planned and two prospective. Initially, the Tu-214ON were equipped with foreign cameras, then modernization was carried out using similar domestic equipment. For heights up to 1000 m, one planned and two perspective television cameras are intended. The daytime equipment is supplemented with an infrared system. In accordance with DON, the resolution of optics is limited to 30 cm, and of IR equipment - 50 cm.

    BKAN / ASN ON allows observation in daylight and dark hours of the day in any weather conditions. All available devices can be used under favorable conditions; in other situations, the crew must use thermal imaging or radar equipment.

    Tu-214ON is operated together with the COEN-214 ground equipment complex. It includes a data preparation workstation with software, document printing tools, training tools, etc. After the flight, data from the on-board computer are transmitted to COEN-214 for the subsequent preparation of documents.

    Tasks old and new


    Two Tu-214ON aircraft were created and built to solve a specific task aimed at ensuring transparency and improving international relations. The deterioration of the military-political situation no longer allows these vehicles to perform their original tasks, but they do not remain without work. One of the planes now simulates enemy reconnaissance and tries to identify unmasked objects of the army.

    New tasks for the Tu-214ON observation aircraft

    The possibility of modernization in order to obtain certain characteristics or new capabilities, depending on the customer's requirements, was announced. More complete compliance with the wishes of the military department or other structures will lead to more active use of aircraft in various fields. The flights observed now from the Moscow region to places of work will become familiar and routine.

    Thus, a very interesting situation is developing around the Tu-214ON. The specialized aircraft can no longer perform the mission for which it was created. However, the impossibility of new flights over the United States does not interfere with working in Russian airspace. And it is already clear that such operation of the Tu-214ON will be long-term and useful in all respects. Perhaps even more important than the Open Skies Treaty.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:56 am

    A new TU-214.
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    How many orders for new TU-214 is there? Does that know?
    Is a marine version based on the TU-214 now developed?

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    Post  George1 Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:12 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:A new TU-214.
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    How many orders for new TU-214 is there? Does that know?
    Is a marine version based on the TU-214 now developed?

    this is for FSB
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    Post  Isos Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:26 pm

    Tu-214 are kept for miltary or special variants. No civilian orders at all. It's being replaced by MS-21.

    They have some dozens in reserve that can be customized. I doubt they still produce it.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:15 am

    Isos wrote:Tu-214 are kept for miltary or special variants. No civilian orders at all. It's being replaced by MS-21.

    They have some dozens in reserve that can be customized. I doubt they still produce it.

    They just produced another one

    They should really make anti-sub, fueler or AVACS on it already

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    Post  Isos Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:35 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Isos wrote:Tu-214 are kept for miltary or special variants. No civilian orders at all. It's being replaced by MS-21.

    They have some dozens in reserve that can be customized. I doubt they still produce it.

    They just produced another one

    They should really make anti-sub, fueler or AVACS on it already


    That's already planned. But IMO MS-21 will change their mind since it's a much more efficient plane with new engines.

    Is it build from 0 or did they just continue work on an unfinished airframe ? I remember reading they had quite a lot in hangar not finished and waiting for a new life.
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    Post  Hole Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:07 pm

    MTOW Tu-214: 110.000kg
    MTOW MS-21: 87.000kg

    In the first years of production all of the MS-21 will go to civilian users. With a few millions the production rate of the Tu-214 could be brought up to 10 to 15 planes a year in 4 to 5 years. Considering the fact that the MOD still has 20 or so Tu-154 flying this should be no issue.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:25 pm

    Isos wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Isos wrote:Tu-214 are kept for miltary or special variants. No civilian orders at all. It's being replaced by MS-21.

    They have some dozens in reserve that can be customized. I doubt they still produce it.

    They just produced another one

    They should really make anti-sub, fueler or AVACS on it already


    That's already planned. But IMO MS-21 will change their mind since it's a much more efficient plane with new engines. ...

    Tu-214 is much more rugged plane and more readily available because MS-21 is being scooped up by civilian orders (as it should)

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:27 pm

    I agree, there are lots of opportunities for the Tu-214 planes. Dunno why MoD isn't taking advantage of it. I stead they are relying more on the Il-76 based planes when the Tu-214 can help.

    I know Putin recently told the MoD that the demand now is for the transport fleet. He stated Russia needs a very strong and large transport fleet as a method of moving troops large distances, fast because it's more efficient and better than having massive forces build up everywhere which they can't do at 24/7 in non war time. So this is a better method and I agree.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:03 am

    Many important and expensive systems have already been installed in the TU-214. The jump to a navy variant with buoys and torpedoes is not big anymore. Until a MS-21 This could certainly pass another 10 years. Russia now needs marine enlighteners. Russia is now needed smaller Awacs.

    The TU-214 is completely Russian. It has modern engines and is not as far away from an A321CEO or the 737 (P-Cool.
    Depends on PD-14 and the TU-214 has a long Range and service life.
    This can be very comfortable from 2040 an option. Likewise for the IL-76.

    Payload, start weight, service life, robust range, everything speaks for the to-214 and little for the MS-21.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:52 am

    Not that the MS-21 is bad, but it is a civil airliner first and foremost... let it carry people first to replace old and foreign aircraft and compete on the world market.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:27 am

    Isos wrote:
    That's already planned. But IMO MS-21 will change their mind since it's a much more efficient plane with new engines.

    Is it build from 0 or did they just continue work on an unfinished airframe ? I remember reading they had quite a lot in hangar not finished and waiting for a new life.

    Fuel efficiency counts for little when it comes to military planes. Particularly those models that are exclusively for the Russian military

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