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    Post  thegopnik Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:00 pm

    program software takes 5-7 years to make atleast AFAIK 2025 there will be a version to target small drones. you need to elaborate your other points about stealth and we have other threads already about it.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:50 am

    I am new to this forum, hence sorry if this question has already been answered, but is it not confusing how Russia is building stealth aircraft and drones whilst claiming it is developing radars that can defeat stealth? Russian efforts at developing stealth-defeating photonic radar have long been in the news, see here:

    Western countries have body armour vests yet they still make bullets too.

    The fact that Russia has a massive IADS with a range of OTH radars that are optimised to deal with stealth and low flying and high flying and slow and fast targets does not mean they should not have stealthy weapons and aircraft of their own.

    Just because western air defence systems are terrible at dealing with drones and low flying cruise missiles... it is also very likely they will also struggle with stealth targets too, so it makes sense for Russia to make stealth platforms.

    The difference is that Russia is not claiming their stealth aircraft are invisible and invincible like the west essentially did till an F-117 was shot down.

    The Su-57 is perhaps not totally convincing as an effort at building a stealth aircraft, the Okhotnik drone, on the other hand, certainly looks like the real deal.

    Well it is good to have a stealth engineer on the forum, can you explain how the Su-57 is not stealthy while the F-35 and F-22 are?

    I mean I have seen photos of all three types and they are easy to see to be honest.

    Does one hand not know what the other does in Russia, may the photonic radar be overhyped, are the Russians putting up a show of 'maskirovka' one way or the other, trying to deceive all the others into over-investing in stealth?

    Stealth is a type of camouflage... it works against a very specific type of radar that is often used for tracking and terminal guidance... which makes it rather useful most of the time... especially against western forces which as we see in combat testing against F-35s and F-22s they are clearly not equipped to engage such targets.

    Russia forces on the other hand have L band wing mounted radar arrays and IRST and BVR IR guided missiles which suggests they are much better equipped and prepared to deal with stealth aircraft.

    Even when Photonic radar starts to enter service which might be 5 or 10 years away, odds are it most likely will start off in AWACS and heavy recon aircraft and migrate to smaller fighter and missile sized roles.

    Until photon radar has replaced all existing radar types then stealth will have a use... but it wont be the primary focus of the design like it is in the west.

    The Russians designed a stealthy plane that can manouver and fight... the west was trying to make a sniper in a ghillie suit... rather more expensive and not so multirole.

    You surely cannot build a stealth-defeating radar without assuming that your enemy will eventually be able copy the technology, whereupon everybody goes back to square one.

    Yeah, perhaps you don't understand how things work but when one side deploys something the other side works hard to deploy a counter... for instance super carriers and Zircon hypersonic anti ship missiles. Technology never stands still... both sides are working on new aircraft carriers and defending current ones also and new ways of destroying them with new better anti ship missiles.

    You know when your system is good when the other side claims they can defeat it by overwhelming it with numbers... it means you have done your job.

    Russia recognises the usefulness of stealth and are applying it where it makes sense.

    There is no value in stealth for the MiG-31 because during operational use it will be scanning for targets with its massive radar... any stealth coating and stealth shaping would be a total waste of time and money.

    For PAK DA on the other hand, the stealth is not like the B-2 to allow it to fly over targets and drop bombs on them even though the air defence over western targets will be much much weaker, the PAK DA will be a theatre bomber and a strategic cruise missile carrier... its stealth does not need to let it penetrate enemy air defences... it just needs to get it within perhaps 1,000km of enemy airspace with 5,000km range missiles that will fly low and slow or high and very very fast to penetrate the enemy air defences. The fundamental shape of a flying wing will give it a very low RCS and at the same time very low drag for very long range cruise flight potential.

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    Post  andalusia Thu May 19, 2022 9:02 am

    does Russia use simulators to train helicopter pilots? what are the pros and cons of the simulator training for this?

    https://www.dailysabah.com/defense/2019/06/25/new-atak-helicopter-flight-simulator-to-facilitate-turkish-pilots-training
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    Post  Isos Thu May 19, 2022 10:02 am

    andalusia wrote:does Russia use simulators to train helicopter pilots? what are the pros and cons of the simulator training for this?

    https://www.dailysabah.com/defense/2019/06/25/new-atak-helicopter-flight-simulator-to-facilitate-turkish-pilots-training

    Generally all type of aircraft have simulators. Even pilots on boeing and airbus civilian planes train a lot on simulators.

    Simulators are cheaper than training on real aircraft. A lot of the worl to fly them nowadays is just pushing some buttons so you can just train it on a simulator and not use an actul aircraft for that which is extremly costly. Flight hours cost 10 000s of dollars.

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    Post  GarryB Thu May 19, 2022 11:46 am

    Surprisingly the most important thing pilots and crew learn from proper simulators is where all the buttons are and how to perform procedures like prering for launch or preparing to enter airspace with hostile enemy forces.

    They know how to fly, but need refresher courses on what all the buttons do and where to locate them during flight.

    It is all usually recorded so not only do they get practise but they also get blow by blow accounts of any mistake or problem they might have like forgetting where the navigation screen is on the MFD.

    It is also a chance to practise rare things like failures of things that might never fail in real life but the air crew needs to know how to deal with... which they can also be rated on too.

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