Iran Air Defense Systems

I've heard that an even more advanced version Bavar-373 is in the final stage of development. Can you tell us more on Bavar-373 , is it really comparable to S-300 ?


The reason russia is supplying s-300 to iran is only to save them from the $4 billion breach of contract law suit in the International Settlement Court.

Anti-Aircraft Missile System Bound for Iran Scrapped




The S-300 advanced air defense missile systems that Russia refused to deliver to Iran have now been completely dismantled and scrapped, the CEO of the company that built them said Thursday.


"The equipment that was to have been delivered to Iran is no more," Almaz-Antey Corporation's CEO Vladislav Menshchikov said. "We have dismantled it completely. Some elements, which could be used, have been used. Some have been scrapped."

Every contract is made for a particular client and cannot be adjusted to the requirements of another, he said.

"The makeup is different, the specifications are different, and the software is different," Menshchikov said.



Russia signed a deal in 2007 to provide Iran four S-300 batteries. Russia annulled the contract in 2010 due to concerns over its nuclear program. Iran filed a $4 billion lawsuit for compensation over the failed deal, which is pending review in an international arbitration court in Geneva.

Russian daily Vedomosti said in June, citing undisclosed Russian arms industry sources, that Russia had offered to provide Iran with Antei-2500 air defense systems, but the offer was never officially confirmed.

Anatoly Isaikin, the head of Russia's state-run arms export monopoly Rosoboronexport said in mid-August his agency had no plans to provide Iran with replacements for the S-300 missile defense systems that Russia had refused to deliver.

S-300 is a family of air defense missile systems capable of engaging aerial targets from helicopters to cruise and ballistic missiles. The more capable variants of the system would be capable of engaging aircraft far inside the airspace of neighboring states to Iran, according to analysts.

Israel, in particular, lobbied hard against the S-300 deal, according to Israeli media, over concerns that any Israeli air attack on Iran's nuclear facilities would be made far more dangerous if Tehran operated the system.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/anti-aircraft-missile-system-bound-for-iran-scrapped/485251.html

Vladimir Putin authorises delivery of missile system to Iran


The Russian president unfreezes ban on delivering $800m contract as Moscow moves ahead with oil-for-goods barter deal with Tehran


The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, has opened the way for the controversial delivery of a sophisticated anti-aircraft missile system to Iran which had been under embargo for the past five years.

US Secretary of State John Kerry called his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov to object to the move, and the US government warned that the delivery could complicate plans to eventually lift sanctions on Iran as part of a deal over the country’s nuclear programme.

“It’s safe to say that Russia understands that the US takes very seriously the safety and security of our allies in the region,” said White House spokesman Josh Earnest.

Citing the interim framework agreement on Iran’s nuclear programme in Lausanne, the move signalled an apparent determination by Moscow to get a head start in the race to benefit from an eventual lifting of sanctions on Tehran.

Putin signed a decree on Monday to unfreeze the ban on delivering the $800m (£546m) contract for the Russian-made S-300 missiles as Moscow forged ahead with a $20bn oil-for-goods barter deal with Tehran.


The Russian news agency, Interfax, quoted an official at the country’s defence ministry saying it would be able to deliver the five squadrons of purchased S-300 missile systems swiftly to Iran once given the go ahead to do so.

The missile contract had been frozen since 2010 when it was put on ice by the Russian prime minister, Dmitry Medvedev, following pressure primarily from the US and Israel. Russia has long insisted its decision in 2010 to freeze the S-300 delivery was based on the sanctions the United Nations security council imposed on Iran over its nuclear programme.

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According to Russian media, the decree “lifts the ban on transit through Russian territory, including airlift, and the export from the Russian Federation to the Islamic Republic of Iran, and also the transfer to the Islamic Republic of Iran outside the territory of the Russian Federation, both by sea and by air, of air defence missile systems S-300.”

Medvedev’s move followed the passage of UN security council resolution 1929, approved in June 2010, that banned the sale to Iran of “battle tanks, armoured combat vehicles, large caliber artillery systems, combat aircraft, attack helicopters, warships, missiles or missile systems.”


Although Iran had developed its own version of the missile system – unveiled for the first time last year – delivery of the S-300s will markedly upgrade its anti-aircraft missile defences at a time of increased tension in the region.

The S-300 has been superseded by the new S-400 and the Antey-2500 missile systems – which Iran was reportedly offered instead earlier this year –

but it is still regarded as a formidable air defence system with a range of about 90 km.

Delivery and installation of the missile system would make any future attack on Iran or its nuclear facilities – by the US or Israel – considerably more difficult and costly.

The delivery also comes amid an increasingly hot – if still largely proxy conflict – between Iran and Saudi Arabia, most recently in Yemen where the US has backed Saudi Arabia.


Iran had already paid for the missile contract, signed in 2007, and had sued for non-delivery.

However, indications that the impasse between Tehran and Moscow over the missiles began to emerge earlier this year.

One possibility for the timing of the announcement lifting the embargo is that the US understanding of the Lausanne framework deal foresees a lifting of sanctions backed by a potential new UN resolution on conventional and ballistic weapons sales to Iran which Russia appears to have pre-empted.

The move also drew swift condemnation from the government of Israel, which has lobbied hard against the nuclear agreement.

The Israeli intelligence minister, Yuval Steinitz, said the Russian announcement was the direct result of the nuclear agreement reached between Iran and world powers.

“Even as Iran disavows article after article in the framework agreement ... the international community is beginning to ease restrictions on it.

“This is the direct result of the legitimacy that Iran is receiving from the nuclear deal being made with it. This also proves that the economic momentum in Iran that will come in the wake of the lifting of the sanctions will be exploited for armaments and not used for the welfare of the Iranian people.

“Instead of demanding that Iran desist from the terrorist activity that it is carrying out in the Middle East and throughout the world, it is being allowed to arm itself with advanced weapons that will only increase its aggression,” he said.

A senior Russian government official – who spoke to Reuters – said separately that Russia has started supplying grain, equipment and construction materials to Iran in exchange for crude oil under a barter deal.

“I wanted to draw your attention to the rolling out of the oil-for-goods deal, which is on a very significant scale,” Ryabkov told a briefing with members of the upper house of parliament on the talks with Iran.

“In exchange for Iranian crude oil supplies, we are delivering certain products. This is not banned or limited under the current sanctions regime.”

Russia hopes to reap economic and trade benefits if a final deal is concluded to build on the framework agreement reached in Lausanne between Iran and six world powers - Russia, the United States, France, Britain, Germany and China.

The sides have until the end of June to work out a detailed technical agreement under which Iran would curb its nuclear programme and allow international control in exchange for a lifting of economic sanctions. Tehran has denied that its nuclear activities are designed at developing atomic weapons.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/13/vladimir-putin-authorises-delivery-of-missile-system-to-iran

max steel wrote:I've heard that an even more advanced version Bavar-373 is in the final stage of development. Can you tell us more on Bavar-373 ,

We will hear good news about Bavar-373 or Talash-3  in the next 5 days....I hope






Iran will introduce a new missile defense system, capable of shooting down target at the range of more than 200 kilometers.Iran to Unveil New Missile Defense System


Iran will introduce a new missile defense system, capable of shooting down target at the range of more than 200 kilometers.
Tehran plans to introduce a new missile defense system on April 18, on the occasion of the Army Day in Iran, said Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli, the commander of the Iranian Air Defense Force, according to Fars News Agency.

Iranian-made missile defense system called the Talash 3, also known as Endeavor-3, is capable of shooting down targets at a range of more than 200 kilometers.
“The capability and might of the Armed Forces, specially Khatam ol-Anbia Air Defense Base, will be displayed to the enemies again and we will once again see tumult among the ill-wishers,” Esmayeeli said.

According to Esmayeeli, Iran already has the safest airspace in the Middle East, with 3,600 locations spots under its control. The country aims to increase the number to 5,000 locations in the future.

The Brigadier General also added that Iran is currently working to launch several new hi-tech radar systems, capable of tracing and identifying small flying objects.

Iran Hopes to Receive Russian S-300 Air Defense Systems in 2015

“Arash 2 radar system with the capability of discovering small flying objects which is based on the world’s state-of-the-art technology is one of the latest achievements,” Esmayeeli said.


Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150307/1019204800.html#ixzz3XHVRmFvv


But for now i find a pic from The missile itself

ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:
The S-300 has been superseded by the new S-400 and the Antey-2500 missile systems – which Iran was reportedly offered instead earlier this year –

but it is still regarded as a formidable air defence system with a range of about 90 km.

Media being idiots as usual.

The 90km figure is for the obsolete S-300P; not for the S-300PMU1 which is what was intended for Iran (now they're probably going to get S-300PMU2s, for compatibility with the latest Russian S-300/S-400 missiles offered for export).

Iran to Receive Modernized Version of Russian S-300 Missile Defense Systems




Moscow will deliver modernized versions (?)of the S-300 missile defense systems, Iranian Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan told RIA Novosti on Friday.
S-300 missile system

No Reasons to Keep Embargo on Providing Iran With S-300 Missiles - Putin

MOSCOW (Sputnik) – On April 13, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree lifting the cancellation of the S-300 air defense systems sale, originally put into place following the 2010 UN Security Council embargo on arms deliveries to Tehran.

“It should be noted that the Russian side has included some definite improvements to the system that we need to learn from the technical point of view.”


Dehghan said that no additional Russian specialists would be needed since all of the Iranian specialists working with the system had already gone through training.


“The necessary training skills for using this system were held during the previous contract so we don’t need to invite any [Russian] consultants to give instructions on using this system,” he added.

Putin's decision to lift the S-300 sales ban took place two weeks after Tehran and world agreed on a framework for a deal to detail Iran's nuclear program. The framework involves sanctions against Iran, including the arms embargo, being phased out over time. The final deal is expected by July 2015.

On Thursday, the Russian President Putin said that there were no reasons for Moscow to keep the embargo on providing Iran with S-300 missile defense systems, underlining that it is a purely defensive weapon.

The same day, Iran’s Defense Ministry said the S-300 deal could be closed by the end of 2015.



Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150417/1021011915.html#ixzz3XayqWcSF

So instead of getting S-300PMU1 Iran will get S-300PMU2, so instead of intercepting aerial targets at 150km it will hit them out to about 250km.

Important when you consider when you increase the radius of a circle by 1/3rd you triple its volume...

ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:
“It should be noted that the Russian side has included some definite improvements to the system that we need to learn from the technical point of view.”


Dehghan said that no additional Russian specialists would be needed since all of the Iranian specialists working with the system had already gone through training.

In fact, the best iranian asset against any US-israeli-western air strikes is still their Oerlikon aka Samavat.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/35_mm_Oerlikon.jpg



http://www.armyrecognition.com/iran_iranian_army_light_heavy_weapons_uk/samavat_35mm_towed_anti-aircraft_twin-cannon_skyguard_radar_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pic.html


This hardware is supposed to have an effective range of 4 km. If Iran manage to upgrade its capacity, bringing to 6-8 km, I think it is possible nowadays, and upgrading its radar, with new passive IRST into this guns, all raids are nearly impossible. With the Iranian's KS-19 -aka SAER -, the range was brought to 10 km, but this hardware lack of enough effective rate of fire. With several Samavat's batteries having an effective range above 6.000 m, Iran does not need S-300.

Iranian ks-19 -aka SAER-




If by chance, Hizbollah has some Oerlikon's batteries, Israel capacities will be seriously hampered, and the existence of the zionist entity will be seriously compromised. In any way, nowadays, an attack against Iran is completly impossible.

US Air Force Colonel: Russia's sale of advanced anti-aircraft missiles to Iran is a game-changer


It’s been widely reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin has decided to sell the Russian-made S-300 missile system to Iran. This sale has been planned for years, but it was put on hold in 2010 when the U.N. Security Council adopted Resolution 1929.

Although this resolution did not specifically prohibit the sale of missile systems like the S-300, it did call for all states to “exercise vigilance and restraint” in supplying weapons to Iran. Since then, Russia has refrained from selling these weapons.

Now Russia has changed its mind.

The S-300 is a mobile surface-to-air missile defense system that couples powerful radars with high-speed, long-range missiles. It is capable of shooting down aircraft over a large area (depending on the variant, the lethal engagement zone could be larger than the state of New Jersey, with the detection/tracking zone much larger than that).

In NATO, we refer to this missile system as the SA-10. We have studied it and trained to counter it for years. While we are not scared of it, we respect the S-300 for what it is: a very mobile, accurate, and lethal missile system.

Russia’s decision to sell the S-300 to Iran is a big deal for three reasons:

1. It represents a fundamental shift in military power for the region.
For over a decade, the United States and its allies have been able to take freedom of action in the Middle Eastern skies for granted. Friendly forces could count on air support and freedom of maneuver. Adversaries could assume they were vulnerable to observation and attack from the air, limiting their options and convincing some of them that they could not achieve their objectives through military force (often called deterrence by denial). This was especially true of Iran, whose air defenses have suffered greatly due to sanctions. The arrival of the S-300 changes this.

Russia S-300 systemReuters Graphics

The S-300 is not a wall in the sky. If we have to, we can attack and defeat it. Doing so, however, requires an effort that is much larger, much riskier, and much more costly.

Recently, we have seen a debate on the scale of a potential attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, with some arguing that it would be relatively limited and others taking an opposing view. With the S-300 in place, there is no debate.

Overcoming this type of system will require a large deployment of air, sea, and land assets, including our most capable — and expensive — airplanes and missiles. Our people and equipment will be at greater risk, and accomplishing the mission will be more difficult and time consuming.

2. It represents a major acceleration in the proliferation of A2/AD systems.
In 2003, Andrew Krepinevich, Barry Watts, and Robert Work warned against the proliferation of threats like the S-300 in a study published by the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Analysis that coined the phrase “Anti-Access/Area-Denial,” or A2/AD.

They argued that states such as Iran and North Korea would acquire capable systems like the S-300, forcing the United States to alter its approach to projecting military power. That day appears to be here.

This is why many officials, including Work — who is now the Deputy Secretary of Defense — have called for the development of new technological approaches to “offset” advanced weapons systems like the S-300. Some have argued that this effort is aimed directly at China, but the proliferation of the S-300 demonstrates how A2/AD environments are spreading.

3. It represents the return to an age of geopolitical competition.
We may not want to go back to the days when every world development had to be viewed in light of a political competition with another great power. It is increasingly clear, however, that Russia sees the world through this lens.

rouhani putin iran russiaREUTERS/Alexei Nikolsky/RIA Novosti/KremlinRussia's President Vladimir Putin (R) shakes hands with his Iranian counterpart Hassan Rouhani at the welcoming ceremony during a summit of Caspian Sea regional leaders in the southern city of Astrakhan, September 29, 2014.

Western sanctions — implemented in response to Russian intervention in Ukraine — have imposed significant costs on the Russian economy and ratcheted up the tension between Russia and the West. It now appears that tension has spilled over into the Iranian situation.

With the upcoming sale of the S-300 to Iran, Russia has found a way to increase our costs dramatically should we deem it necessary to intervene there.

One final observation: The training required to prepare against an S-300 threat is exactly the type that has been so damaged by the sequester cuts of 2013 and the budget caps of 2014/2015.

Recently, Secretary of the Air Force Deborah James stated that half of Air Force combat units are not trained to the level necessary for the “high-end fight.” In light of proliferation developments such as this Russian deal with Iran, that is not a reassuring statistic.

Colonel Clint Hinote, US Air Force, is a military fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. He holds a PhD in military strategy, and he recently returned from Korea, where he commanded the 8th Fighter Wing at Kunsan Air Base. The conclusions and opinions expressed are his own and do not reflect the official position of the U.S. government.




Read more: http://blogs.cfr.org/davidson/2015/04/20/russias-sale-of-the-s-300-to-iran-will-shift-military-balance-across-the-middle-east/#ixzz3YKtAtOEy

Supply of Russian S-300 systems to Iran will not happen soon: TASS



Moscow: Supplying Iran with Russian S-300 missile defence systems is not a matter of the nearest future (MAY BE AFTER 1000 YEARS), TASS news agency quoted a Foreign Ministry official as saying on Thursday.

"It is more important that a political and legal decision, which opens up such a possibility, is taken," Sergei Ryabkov, a deputy foreign minister, said according to TASS.

http://news.yahoo.com/supply-russian-300-systems-iran-not-happen-soon-121706898.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/23/us-russia-iran-misiles-idUSKBN0NE1C020150423

ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:Supply of Russian S-300 systems to Iran will not happen soon: TASS



Moscow: Supplying Iran with Russian S-300 missile defence systems is not a matter of the nearest future (MAY BE AFTER 1000 YEARS), TASS news agency quoted a Foreign Ministry official as saying on Thursday.

"It is more important that a political and legal decision, which opens up such a possibility, is taken," Sergei Ryabkov, a deputy foreign minister, said according to TASS.

http://news.yahoo.com/supply-russian-300-systems-iran-not-happen-soon-121706898.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/23/us-russia-iran-misiles-idUSKBN0NE1C020150423


F**k

WTF!!

To be honest russia should pay the fee from first contract breaking from the jewish lobbyis blocking the first contract of S-300, because that is kind of hypocritical to have Mistral deal and trying get penalties but not paying penalties for Iran S-300 from the same shit (political pressure/prostitution)

Werewolf wrote:To be honest russia should pay the fee from first contract breaking from the jewish lobbyis blocking the first contract of S-300, because that is kind of hypocritical to have Mistral deal and trying get penalties but not paying penalties for Iran S-300 from the same shit (political pressure/prostitution)

Noone is aware about the true reason(s) behind the decision of russian's administration to freeze the deliveries of the S-300 to Iran. Nevertheless, do not forget that Iran built its own S-300 -Bavar 373-, how ? Russia was direcltly, or undirectly close, russian pundits had to provide enough advises to help their iranian counterparts. The decision to freeze in that time was concomitant with several events, at first Russia was feared by the delicat situation in Ukraine during 2010, moreover, Georgia's weaponeries came mostly from Israel, and US. The other great problem was Iran itself, and especially president Ahmadinedjad. Everyone in the world is well aware that Iran has the capacity to produce several nuclear bombs, in a very quick time. The problem, Iran is enterring in this area as newbie, with very idealist p.o.v. This is not compatible with world biz. Iran want to share its nuclear how-know with many friendly countries, that are market for Russia, and China, and West. Russia, and China sent a message that all is not allowed. If now, Venezuela, Indonesia, Angola etc...has the know-how to produce nuclear devices, power plants, satelits, dams, roads, electronic devices, desalinate the water of the sea etc... what would be the fate west, russian, chinese' industries ? I think this new president Rouhani is more comprehensive with world powers interests.

nemrod wrote:

Werewolf wrote:To be honest russia should pay the fee from first contract breaking from the jewish lobbyis blocking the first contract of S-300, because that is kind of hypocritical to have Mistral deal and trying get penalties but not paying penalties for Iran S-300 from the same shit (political pressure/prostitution)

Noone is aware about the true reason(s) behind the  decision of russian's administration to freeze the deliveries of the S-300 to Iran. Nevertheless, do not forget that Iran built its own S-300 -Bavar 373-, how ? Russia was direcltly, or undirectly close, russian pundits had to provide enough advises to help their iranian counterparts. The decision to freeze in that time was concomitant with several events, at first Russia was feared by the delicat situation in Ukraine during 2010, moreover, Georgia's weaponeries came mostly from Israel, and US. The other great problem  was Iran itself, and especially president Ahmadinedjad. Everyone in the world is well aware that Iran has the capacity to produce several nuclear bombs, in a very quick time. The problem, Iran is enterring in this area as newbie, with very idealist p.o.v. This is not compatible with world biz. Iran want to share its nuclear how-know with many friendly countries, that are market for Russia, and China, and West. Russia, and China sent a message that all is not allowed. If now, Venezuela, Indonesia, Angola etc...has the know-how to produce nuclear devices, power plants, satelits, dams, roads, electronic devices, desalinate the water of the sea etc... what would be the fate west, russian, chinese' industries ? I think this new president Rouhani is more comprehensive with world powers interests.

We do know that it was based on jewish lobbys pushing the deal aside playing their victim card.

I am sure getting more capable missiles is compensation enough...

Iran Builds Simulators for S-200, Hag, Rapier Missiles

Excellent... training simulators for big SAMs are important because the costs of firing big missiles is too high to do it all the time, yet to have well trained crews they need to practise a lot.

the combination of simulators and firing off the odd near time expired missile just to get the feel of the real system and to test the expiry dates are accurate is the best solution applied around the world where possible... not every country can afford decent simulators so this is excellent for Iran and her air defence capabilities.

Iran's Bavar-373 air defense system to be deployed by year-end: Cmdr.

A senior Iranian commander says the country’s domestically-built Bavar-373 air defense system would be ready for deployment by the end of the current Iranian calendar year (March 19, 2016).

Bavar-373 air defense system was successfully test-fired last August.

The long-range system, which is similar to the Russian S-300, has been manufactured by Iranian defense experts and is capable of hitting air targets at a high altitude.

http://presstv.ir/Detail/2015/04/28...ense-Khatam-alAnbiya-Farzad-Esmaili-Bavar-373

Iran’s IRGC launches 2nd Qadir radar system


IRGC has launched a long-range radar system in the southwest of the country to enhance its air defense capabilities.


The second Qadir radar system was put into service in Iran’s southwestern city of Ahwaz on Saturday.

The first Qadir system was unveiled in the city of Garmsar in the central province of Semnan in June 2014. The third system is also scheduled to be unveiled in the near future.

The domestically-manufactured Qadir radar system, designed by IRGC’s Aerospace Division, is capable of detecting targets with a very small cross section from a long distance.

The system enjoys a direct range of 1,100 kilometers (more than 680 miles) and can be used to detect different types of aircraft as well as ballistic missiles.

Qadir falls in the category of long-range three-dimensional radar systems.

http://presstv.ir/Detail/2015/07/04/418763/Iran-Qadir-radar-system-IRGC

Is the last pic of the "Qadir" as well ?

Cyberspec wrote:Is the last pic of the "Qadir" as well ?

Yes

ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:
The second Qadir radar system was put into service in Iran’s southwestern city of Ahwaz on Saturday.

Excellent for Iran. If they place those radars also near Tabriz and Bandar Abbas, than it will be impossible for Israel to make a surprise attack. They will detect and track any activities far away from borders.