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    Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette

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    Post  calripson Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:02 am

    Waiting for mass production of Armata - I believe the current contract is for 132 T14 - no T15 as well as Kurganets and Boomerang.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:10 pm

    They have 26-27 different Armata variants to develop and get into production before mass production of the tanks needs to start... and a similar number or Kurganets and Boomerang too.

    But this is OT here.
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    Post  owais.usmani Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:23 am

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/9333581

    SAINT PETERSBURG, August 31. / TASS /. The project 20385 "Thundering" corvette, built by Severnaya Verf (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation), is scheduled to be handed over to the Russian Navy in December. General Director of the enterprise Igor Orlov told reporters about it on Monday.

    "He is at sea now on tests. We plan to transfer it in December," he said.
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    Post  medo Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:39 pm

    Project 2038.0: Steregushchy Corvette - Page 40 Eg-aok10

    Adlar Cidenzhapov at degaussing.

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    Post  hoom Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:40 pm

    Thats been a really quick transition from arriving without radars installed to getting depermed.

    Bit of a shame that they had to put some of the EW gear in ugly mount on the Hangar side, I guess not enough space on this mast for it or maybe some interference issues?


    BTW delay on Gremyaschy apparently is due to delays with Zaslon according to ppl at Balancer...
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    Post  Arrow Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:49 am

    Will the new 20830 corvettes carry the Uragan system or the standard USKS launchers?
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:32 am

    Arrow wrote:Will the new 20830 corvettes carry the Uragan system or the standard USKS launchers?

    That's the million dollar (75M ruble) question, now isn't it? Wink
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    Post  hoom Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:33 am

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    Post  Isos Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:53 am

    Uran makes it cheaper but UKSK transforms any ship into a multirole ship increasing its capacities by easily 8 times (8 multirole missiles instead 8 antiship missiles).

    Next one should be build only with uksk. That would require a redesign however but it's worth the effort.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:01 am

    Isos wrote:Uran makes it cheaper but UKSK transforms any ship into a multirole ship increasing its capacities by easily 8 times (8 multirole missiles instead 8 antiship missiles).

    Next one should be build only with uksk. That would require a redesign however but it's worth the effort.

    It is called the Project 20385, hopefully they will replace these after the navy is satisfied with the first few ships, but until then the old dock workers need pay and the new ones need training.
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    Post  owais.usmani Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:23 am

    Arrow wrote:Will the new 20830 corvettes carry the Uragan system or the standard USKS launchers?

    I think only project 20385 has UKSK, project 20380 has Uran missiles.
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    Post  Isos Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:42 am

    Project 20385 is a different version with better sensors.

    Russia offers for export a Tigr (Steregoushchy) with UKSK.
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    Post  hoom Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:15 pm

    It is called the Project 20385
    Indeed which was why I wanted to see more of them, also bumps the Redut cell count to 16.
    Disadvantage is it was designed for German engines & domestic replacement leaves it underpowered.

    Project 20385 is a different version with better sensors.
    Aldar longname has the Zaslon suite but on an otherwise 20380 hull.

    I just want them to build a decent number of some standardised model.
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    Post  Arrow Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:14 pm

    I mean these 10 new corvettes ordered. They should have UKSK launchers. This will greatly increase their potential. When the 3M22 missiles and the modernized Oniks and Kalibr M come along, they should increase the number of UKSK launchers to 16.

    Apparently there is a design of the Karakut version with 16 UKSK launchers? This is amazing firepower for a 800 tons ship.
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    Post  hoom Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:23 am

    Well it won't be 800 tons anymore if they put 16* UKSK on it.
    The quoted displacement rise for Buyan-M to get 16 cells is from 900 to 1300tons, thats nearly 50% displacement increase.
    They got on the wrong side of a vicious cycle.

    As I understand the new order is of the Aldar longname type.
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    Post  mnztr Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:34 pm

    I guess one advantage is opponents will have a hard time knowing which variant they are facing. You think its the Uran version then 400km away you get whacked by a Tsirkon lol.

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