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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:26 pm

    KSA situation is not good... and detoriating further.

    There are economic problems, there is the lengthy, Vietnam-like war in Yemen and there's unconfirmed info that a coup agaisnt King Salman is currently being organized. If the rumors are true and the coup indeed takes place, it may throw KSA into true chaos - there are numerous factions in the Al Saud family and each of them owns more wealth than some smaller countries... add other tribes and Shias into the equation and you get a recipe for the end of KSA.
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    Post  victor1985 on Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:54 pm

    Who is ksa?
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    Post  Project Canada on Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:30 pm

    KSA warned UK about potential damage to relations if the latter continues its meddling with KSA's human rights affairs Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Dima on Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:01 pm

    victor1985 wrote:Who is ksa?
    Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
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    Post  victor1985 on Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:11 pm

    Thanks
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    Post  Godric on Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:16 pm

    Kingdom of Saudi A$$holes more like it
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:17 pm

    Project Canada wrote:KSA warned UK about potential damage to relations if the latter continues its meddling with KSA's human rights affairs Rolling Eyes

    Do you think they will cancel any further Typhoon deals? They seem to prefer relations with France.
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    Post  Guest on Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:22 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    Project Canada wrote:KSA warned UK about potential damage to relations if the latter continues its meddling with KSA's human rights affairs Rolling Eyes

    Do you think they will cancel any further Typhoon deals?  They seem to prefer relations with France.

    They will probably take what was already ordered and then try to get F15SE or even more F16 Block 61. Who knows if relations go worse they might even start offering second hand Eurofighters around..
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    Post  George1 on Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:47 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:and there's unconfirmed info that a coup agaisnt King Salman is currently being organized.

    you mean coup by republican nasserist-style officers?
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:56 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:and there's unconfirmed info that a coup agaisnt King Salman is currently being organized.

    you mean coup by republican nasserist-style officers?
    Expect so, you know, those guys showing how to really fight in Yemen.

    But seriously most of the senior officers in the Saudi armed forces seem to be members of the 'tribe' (claimed to be 25000 strong) so any coup will just be a change in the branch that is in charge, not in what happens.
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    Post  max steel on Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:13 pm

    Saudi prince arrested on private plane with 2 tons of drugs


    Hypocrisy Folks.


    US and Saudis vow to step up war on Assad in defiance of Russia


    BFF's bloody insanity


    Forget China, Saudi Arabia Could Demolish The US Dollar ( Read this at your own peril. I don't recommend it)
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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:08 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:KSA situation is not good... and detoriating further.
    What is bad for Saudi Arabia is good for the world.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:28 am

    If there are economic problems in such a rich state that means that corruption is at record high
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    Post  max steel on Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:42 am

    Saudis cutting defence spending by 30% for 2016
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:27 am

    The time is now for Russia (and Iran) to pile on pressure on the pathetic brutal dictatorship of Saudi Arabia. They are not collapsing yet, but the first foundations have already been broken. Make all efforts to increase oil production to new record highs, and drive prices down still further.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:40 pm

    flamming_python wrote:The time is now for Russia (and Iran) to pile on pressure on the pathetic brutal dictatorship of Saudi Arabia. They are not collapsing yet, but the first foundations have already been broken. Make all efforts to increase oil production to new record highs, and drive prices down still further.
    The same strategy was used by US and KSA in the 1980s to "help" facilitate USSR's collapse... what an irony!
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:48 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:The time is now for Russia (and Iran) to pile on pressure on the pathetic brutal dictatorship of Saudi Arabia. They are not collapsing yet, but the first foundations have already been broken. Make all efforts to increase oil production to new record highs, and drive prices down still further.
    The same strategy was used by US and KSA in the 1980s to "help" facilitate USSR's collapse... what an irony!

    It was indeed, and now its payback time for the world's most universally reviled shit-hole.

    Iran-Saudi Arabian tensions would be a good backdrop to start doing the right work in. Of course, there is no need to openly oppose them or interfere in anything; no need for Russia to directly involve itself in the Sunni-Shi'ite mess. All pieces can manuevered into position behind the scenes.

    I wouldn't think to wish ISIS on anyone. But for Saudi Arabia, it might actually bring an improvement to human rights. ISIS, being squeezed in a vice between the SAA, Kurds and Iraq, may smell blood and make the decision to strike out towards the south against an increasingly weakened, destabilizing and war exhausted Saudi Arabia.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:09 pm

    IF you were in charge of Iranian foreign policy, what would you do, flamming_python?

    The first thing I would do is start unlimited arms supply to Yemen. Give them ATGMs, RPGs and MANPADS, then small arms etc. Deploy some Basij brigade + S-F. I would escalate the war until most of Saudi army is engaged in Yemen. Then I would send IRGC S-F to Shia regions of Saudi Arabia.
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:33 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:IF you were in charge of Iranian foreign policy, what would you do, flamming_python?

    The first thing I would do is start unlimited arms supply to Yemen. Give them ATGMs, RPGs and MANPADS, then small arms etc. Deploy some Basij brigade + S-F. I would escalate the war until most of Saudi army is engaged in Yemen. Then I would send IRGC S-F to Shia regions of Saudi Arabia.

    I wouldn't move to an open conflict with Saudi Arabia. The clock is ticking for them and I'm not ready to sacrifice sanctions relief and other benefits I'd have received as a result of the Nuclear Deal - including production agreements with Russia and all the rest of it.

    Saudi Army is getting humiliated in Yemen as it is. Although, some extra arms won't do any harm. But save the officers and brigades for the main theatre - Syria. Main thing would be to drive oil production up, to increase the pressure on their finances and budget.
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:11 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:IF you were in charge of Iranian foreign policy, what would you do, flamming_python?

    The first thing I would do is start unlimited arms supply to Yemen. Give them ATGMs, RPGs and MANPADS, then small arms etc. Deploy some Basij brigade + S-F. I would escalate the war until most of Saudi army is engaged in Yemen. Then I would send IRGC S-F to Shia regions of Saudi Arabia.

    I wouldn't move to an open conflict with Saudi Arabia. The clock is ticking for them and I'm not ready to sacrifice sanctions relief and other benefits I'd have received as a result of the Nuclear Deal - including production agreements with Russia and all the rest of it.

    Saudi Army is getting humiliated in Yemen as it is. Although, some extra arms won't do any harm. But save the officers and brigades for the main theatre - Syria. Main thing would be to drive oil production up, to increase the pressure on their finances and budget.
    At the moment, with very little move in the oil price, the world seems to agree with you.

    In a way the Saudis have just pulled their version of Turkey's Su-24 move. Virtually no-one, outside the Wabidiot grouping, agrees with their action and it will give Iran the internal political support to double down in Yemen and Syria.
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:20 pm

    Thanks.
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    Post  sepheronx on Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:28 pm

    No.  They are good guys.  I conversed with head man via email.  The article was from zerohedge apparently.  Since Zerohedge gas many writers that all fall under same alias, you dont know who wrote it.  It is a mixture of pure speculation and just mentioning what others saying.  RI follows kinda same path.  They are just posting what others saying.  I find such articles none important or just outright wrong, but it is about Russia so of course RI will mention it.
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    Post  kvs on Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:57 pm

    Austin wrote:Just wondering why Saudi rial is not getting impacted by Oil Fall

    http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/SARUSD:CUR

    The rial is not a freely floating currency like the ruble. It is propped up by the Saudi Central Bank.

    The CBR does not make any interventions to prop up the ruble. I have seen people still thinking it is doing this.
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    Post  Austin on Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:02 am

    kvs wrote:
    Austin wrote:Just wondering why Saudi rial is not getting impacted by Oil Fall

    http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/SARUSD:CUR

    The rial is not a freely floating currency like the ruble.  It is propped up by the Saudi Central Bank.

    The CBR does not make any interventions to prop up the ruble.  I have seen people still thinking it is doing this.

    Even if Saudi Central Bank is propping up rial it is not showing up in their Forex dropping drastically and Rial is stable.

    I think what is happening with Rouble is as soon as Oil Prices drop , Speculator keeps attacking it weakning the rouble , Perhaps engineered from outside or market forces working there. Hence the drop in Rouble is much more drastic like ~ 40 % for drop in oil price.

    I saw when Oil Reached 27 even for minor fall in prices in .xx range Rouble was falling more not sure why , Likely Speculators
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:06 am

    Austin wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    Austin wrote:Just wondering why Saudi rial is not getting impacted by Oil Fall

    http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/SARUSD:CUR

    The rial is not a freely floating currency like the ruble.  It is propped up by the Saudi Central Bank.

    The CBR does not make any interventions to prop up the ruble.  I have seen people still thinking it is doing this.

    Even if Saudi Central Bank is propping up rial it is not showing up in their Forex dropping drastically and Rial is stable.

    I think what is happening with Rouble is as soon as Oil Prices drop , Speculator keeps attacking it weakning the rouble , Perhaps engineered from outside or market forces working there. Hence the drop in Rouble is much more drastic like ~ 40 % for drop in oil price.

    I saw when Oil Reached 27 even for minor fall in prices in .xx range Rouble was falling more not sure why , Likely Speculators

    I was reading how Saudi Arabia is offering over $1T in bonds. I imagine they are getting propped up. For a country like Saudi Arabia, they need it. As well, they have a massive deficit which they never had before (or long time).

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